Iran tests fastest underwater missile

[IdioticBuffoon]

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Hopefully this will act as a deterrent to American aggression and any other form of ill-fated unilateral advancements in the future.

And I don't think bin Laden or Al-keda is about to get ahold of these weapons.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

 

[MadRat]

They were withdrawan by the Russians because they sunk the Kursk. Why would it benefit Iran to have an unstable weapon like it?

 

[Mardeth]

Already posted it.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

So the USA is planting stories with aljazeera now huh? Al Jazeera is in our back pocket now too?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
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Hopefully this will act as a deterrent to American aggression and any other form of ill-fated unilateral advancements in the future.

And I don't think bin Laden or Al-keda is about to get ahold of these weapons.

Not exactly from a source known for its accuracy!! rofl

 

[conehead433]

Fox has been showing a video clip of the test. Must be true it's on Fox.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
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Hopefully this will act as a deterrent to American aggression and any other form of ill-fated unilateral advancements in the future.

And I don't think bin Laden or Al-keda is about to get ahold of these weapons.

Not exactly from a source known for its accuracy!! rofl

Another talking point, or can you provide examples?

 

[eilute]

I think that we should not be freaking out about Iran any more than the Europeans, Saudis, or gas guzzling Canadians. This is really only a huge issue if we make it one.

As for deterring Americans, this is not a huge problem. We can avoid it simply by sinking Iranian ships.

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: MadRat
They were withdrawan by the Russians because they sunk the Kursk. Why would it benefit Iran to have an unstable weapon like it?

I think you're confusing it with something else. The Russian "Shkval" torpedoes are designed for and equipped with tactical nuclear charges to make sure their intended targets (large aircraft carriers and submarines) are completely destroyed. They've never been intended for use with other explosives (except for training and tests, of course). Or are you claiming that the Kurks was sunk by a nuclear warhead?

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

I too very much doubt it that the Iranians have mastered the technology behind those Russian torpedoes. As far as I know, we and the Chinese have been trying to copy them for over 10 years now, without much success. Unless they have bought some export versions with high-explosive warheads.

 

[tommywishbone]

An "underwater missile"? What's next, blackpower placed in the breach of a musket, ignited and use to launch a projectile via a metal barrel? I'm pretty sure torpedos were around during the American Civil War.

Another pitiful attempt to scare the cowards into supporting a war against Iran. And I love the Iranian's new missile with the "range to reach US troops stationed in the Middle East." What's that 500 miles? JFC, the German's V2 had better range than that 60 years ago. Comedy.

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: fornax

Originally posted by: MadRat
They were withdrawan by the Russians because they sunk the Kursk. Why would it benefit Iran to have an unstable weapon like it?

I think you're confusing it with something else. The Russian "Shkval" torpedoes are designed for and equipped with tactical nuclear charges to make sure their intended targets (large aircraft carriers and submarines) are completely destroyed. They've never been intended for use with other explosives (except for training and tests, of course). Or are you claiming that the Kurks was sunk by a nuclear warhead?

Shkval used corrosive peroxide-based fuels which leaked flammable gases into the submarine. The missile-torpedo is a disaster waiting to happen for any submariner unfortunate to have to live with it.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

So the USA is planting stories with aljazeera now huh? Al Jazeera is in our back pocket now too?

Where have you been? Any story that doesn't meet the libs agenda is of course a plant. Any that back the lib agenda, even if proven to be a completely made up hoax (see last weeks SAS thread, lol), are of course, undeniable facts, and you are scum if you question them.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

So the USA is planting stories with aljazeera now huh? Al Jazeera is in our back pocket now too?

Where have you been? Any story that doesn't meet the libs agenda is of course a plant. Any that back the lib agenda, even if proven to be a completely made up hoax (see last weeks SAS thread, lol), are of course, undeniable facts, and you are scum if you question them.

Seems like EVERYTHING we said about Iraq was 100% dead-on, now wasn't it? Too bad people like you are just too f*cking stupid to learn from your mistakes.

You haven't been right about sh*t regarding Iraq and now you want me to take your word for it about Iran. I don't think so.

You and all your ilk have ZERO credibility. Do you understand that? ZERO, NONE, NIL, NIENTE, NADA.

The right-wing agenda is clear.... kill, kill and kill some more.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: MadRat

Originally posted by: fornax

Originally posted by: MadRat
They were withdrawan by the Russians because they sunk the Kursk. Why would it benefit Iran to have an unstable weapon like it?

I think you're confusing it with something else. The Russian "Shkval" torpedoes are designed for and equipped with tactical nuclear charges to make sure their intended targets (large aircraft carriers and submarines) are completely destroyed. They've never been intended for use with other explosives (except for training and tests, of course). Or are you claiming that the Kurks was sunk by a nuclear warhead?

Shkval used corrosive peroxide-based fuels which leaked flammable gases into the submarine. The missile-torpedo is a disaster waiting to happen for any submariner unfortunate to have to live with it.

The Russians modified the Shkval to accept a conventional warhead so they could export it. IIRC, the Kursk was sunk while preforming tests with the modified torpedo.

 

[IdaGno]

sabre rattling - a not unusual precursor to war

 

[JTWill]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Frankly, I do not believe any of the propoganda that is being spread about Iran. Not saying that Iran is a nice country or our friends or anything like this, but this is the same M.O. that they used with Iraq (planting stories).

So the USA is planting stories with aljazeera now huh? Al Jazeera is in our back pocket now too?

All the stories have been on Iran state run TV, the power of those evil American propagandists is beyond belief. Like forcing an Irani general to put out our tailored stories on Irani TV.

BTW There are USNavy people laughing at this newest threat from Iran. Once a naval battle insues with the MASSIVE Irani navy, it will be curious what platform they will use to use this very hard to guide missle.

 

[piasabird]

I pity any country that comes out and aggressively attacks the USA in open warfare. The USA has the most impressive weapons by far. Maybe they would like to see the MOAB land in the middel of Tehran. We have plenty of Trident submarines and all sorts of weapans like killer Drones and Cruise Missles. They must figure if they antagonize us and we respond that the rest of the Muslim and Arab world will be against the USA.

Europe and others will probably be really upset if we have even more interruption in the oil and gas supply.

Somehow, I do not think we will fight a careful accurate war against Iran, but I dont think Bush is too eager to start another war. It is one thing to test fire a weapon, and it is another thing to get it to work properly with submarines and war planes shooting at you.

The question is, if we do not attack Iran, will they sell the weapons to other people and start an even larger war? Someone is supplying them with this technology. It is probably coming straight from Russia. Russia is probably the head of the snake. Maybe we should tell Russia if they dont quit selling weapons to Iran it is Moscow that will be bombed.

We may be damned for attacking Iran and Damned if we do not. The Key here is why is someone letting them have more war technology, and what can we do to stop this weapon proliferation, before it gets out of hand.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
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Hopefully this will act as a deterrent to American aggression and any other form of ill-fated unilateral advancements in the future.

And I don't think bin Laden or Al-keda is about to get ahold of these weapons.

Not exactly from a source known for its accuracy!! rofl

Another talking point, or can you provide examples?

Rofl..the whole Inquirer is a source......read it..lol

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: IdioticBuffoon
Link

Hopefully this will act as a deterrent to American aggression and any other form of ill-fated unilateral advancements in the future.

And I don't think bin Laden or Al-keda is about to get ahold of these weapons.

Not exactly from a source known for its accuracy!! rofl

Another talking point, or can you provide examples?

Rofl..the whole Inquirer is a source......read it..lol

Al Jazeera is run by the inquirer?

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
An "underwater missile"? What's next, blackpower placed in the breach of a musket, ignited and use to launch a projectile via a metal barrel? I'm pretty sure torpedos were around during the American Civil War.

Another pitiful attempt to scare the cowards into supporting a war against Iran. And I love the Iranian's new missile with the "range to reach US troops stationed in the Middle East." What's that 500 miles? JFC, the German's V2 had better range than that 60 years ago. Comedy.

The Shkval torpedo is real, and it's by far the most advanced underwater weapon in existence right now. It's called a "super-cavitation torpedo". However, as far as I know, the range of the export version is very limited... something like 5km I think... and it would never launch against an american target, since the carrying platform would likely be destroyed long before an american ship would up in range.

The Russians have not gone so completely bonkers as to sell the original missile (20+km range, 400-600km/h, and a 14kt warhead to boot... designed to take out entire groups of ships).

 

[Mardeth]

I think AP is the source. At least for CNN etc.

 

[judasmachine]

I'm pretty sure we could kick iran's butt, but it will cost a lot more lives than iraq. I doubt we have the man power for it in the first place. If they are going to go, I suggest letting Israel smack it out with Iran, and we just grab lawn chairs and enjoy the fireworks.

 

[BeauJangles]

"underwater missile" = glorified name for a torpedo