Iran's Houthis fire missiles at global shipping, risk closing red sea

[Jaskalas]

2023​

12-04: Ballistic missiles fired by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck three commercial ships​

12-11: USS Carney is undefeated — by a margin of 22-0 — against the missiles and drones​

12-14: U.S. warns Houthis to stop attacks in Red Sea​

12-15: Missile fired from Yemen strikes cargo ship in Red Sea hours after earlier attack​

12-15: Shipping giants Hapag-Lloyd and Maersk pause Red Sea travel amid attacks​

12-16: USS Carney successfully engaged and shot down 14 drones in an attack wave​

12-16: More big shipping firms stop Red Sea routes after attacks​

12-18: USS Carney responds to distress call following Houthi-claimed attack on commercial ship in Red Sea​

12-18: Oil rises by more than 2% on Red Sea tanker attack, re-routings​

12-19: New U.S.-led Red Sea task force won’t stop shipping attacks, Houthis say​

12-22: Iranian Spy Ship Helps Houthis Direct Attacks on Red Sea Vessels​

12-22: Oil Posts Biggest Weekly Gain in Two Months on Red Sea Chaos​

12-23: Iran threatens to close Mediterranean Sea​

12-25: India Deploys 3 Guided Missile Destroyers In Arabian Sea After Recent Drone Attacks​

12-30: No Sign Houthis Will Halt Red Sea Attacks, Says US​

12-30: Maersk Ship Hit by Missile in the Red Sea​

12-31: US Navy sinks 3 Houthi boats attacking merchant ship in Red Sea​

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2024​

1-01: Iran rejects US and UK calls to end support for Houthi Red Sea attacks​

1-03: US warns Houthis to cease attacks on Red Sea vessels or face potential military action
1-05: Red Sea crisis from Houthi attacks hits world trade as cost of shipping soars by 170%​

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Looks like Yemen wants a war. Iran has armed them with missiles and those missiles are now striking international trade. A vital sea route is closing to commercial traffic, and the alternative is to sail around Africa. This is the Suez canal route. Same as closing the Suez canal.

Personally, I would raise Yemen to the ground in response to these acts of war. Alternatively, we could leave Yemen alone and focus our military response on their supplier, Iran.

Unless you would like to yield the oceans and lose international shipping, a harsh example needs to be made here and now. Before other terrorists decide it would be fun to sink merchant ships elsewhere. These ships must be protected by force, do they not?

 

[K1052]

Let the Egyptians strike the Houthis because they're about to lose an absolute fortune in transit fees.

 

[pcgeek11]

We arrange for a severe bombing attack of Iran Backed Terrorist in Yemen, Iraq and Syria in response to all of these attacks on the US troops and the international shipping.

 

[brycejones]

We should probably nuke the whole region just to make the OP happy.

 

[Drach]

Shit. I don't know.
How about letting the surrounding countries work it out without Captain America trying to fix it.
If they want to fire on US flagged ships I'm fine with lighting them up. If they are flagged from the Caribbean . I don't give a shit what happens to them.
If the vultures want to fly different colors. Lets let them understand the consequences.

 

[evident]

Shit. I don't know.
How about letting the surrounding countries work it out without Captain America trying to fix it.
If they want to fire on US flagged ships I'm fine with lighting them up. If they are flagged from the Caribbean . I don't give a shit what happens to them.
If the vultures want to fly different colors. Lets let them understand the consequences.

I think they have been firing at us vessels in the area or at least close to them

Missiles fired toward US Navy warship during distress response in Middle East, officials say

Two ballistic missiles were fired from Houthi-controlled parts of Yemen in the direction of a U.S. Navy warship as it responded to a distress call from a commercial tanker in the Gulf of Aden, the …

thehill.com

 

[Leeea]

ok.

They launched on Israel. US shot down some missiles, nothing happened.

They launched on US warships. US shot down some drones, nothing happened.

They captured a ship that had ties to an Israeli business man: -- nothing happened
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67632940

They then launched missiles at israeli related cargo ships going by, missing civilian cargo ships. Not flagged Israeli, but headed in the direction of Israel, or some vague connection to Israel. Missed them all. -- nothing happened


Finally, on they gave up on the whole "attacking only Israeli connected ships", and started taking potshots at anything and everything. They have hit 3 ships so far as far as I can tell. They also fired on a US Navy ship moving to render assistance, and those missiles / drones were shot down. -- nothing has happened so far.



Prevent international recognition. Prevent international banking / funds transfer. Prevent insurance of any vessel using a Houthi port. Let their promises to their people turn into ash, force them into cruelty to keep order, make them more hated then what came before them. Make them the punch line to a cruel joke that makes everyone that sees the suffering think twice before embracing anyone like them.

But violence toward them? Pointless waste of money.


At most, perhaps selling the Saudi's some toys to continue their war against the Houthis. At market rate. Let the Saudi's make the profoundly stupid mistakes.



lastly, check out this bit of enemy propaganda ( Houthi music video featuring the captured Galaxy Leader and dead Hezbollah leaders resurrected via overlay in the video ):
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732910011574099981

 

[KMFJD]

Maersk,MSC and Hapag-Lloyd have stopped going through the red sea now

 

[evident]

ok.

They launched on Israel. US shot down some missiles, nothing happened.

They launched on US warships. US shot down some drones, nothing happened.

They captured a ship that had ties to an Israeli business man: -- nothing happened
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67632940

They then launched missiles at israeli related cargo ships going by, missing civilian cargo ships. Not flagged Israeli, but headed in the direction of Israel, or some vague connection to Israel. Missed them all. -- nothing happened


Finally, on they gave up on the whole "attacking only Israeli connected ships", and started taking potshots at anything and everything. They have hit 3 ships so far as far as I can tell. They also fired on a US Navy ship moving to render assistance, and those missiles / drones were shot down. -- nothing has happened so far.



Prevent international recognition. Prevent international banking / funds transfer. Prevent insurance of any vessel using a Houthi port. Let their promises to their people turn into ash, force them into cruelty to keep order, make them more hated then what came before them. Make them the punch line to a cruel joke that makes everyone that sees the suffering think twice before embracing anyone like them.

But violence toward them? Pointless waste of money.


At most, perhaps selling the Saudi's some toys to continue their war against the Houthis. At market rate. Let the Saudi's make the profoundly stupid mistakes.



lastly, check out this bit of enemy propaganda ( Houthi music video featuring the captured Galaxy Leader and dead Hezbollah leaders resurrected via overlay in the video ):
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732910011574099981

one of those missles landing on a US Ship will open up a huge can of worms... all it takes is one missile to get through. the fact that missiles landed 10 miles away from a US DDG raises a huge alarm for me. how much longer can the US just let them fly?

Also for those saying the US should stop playing the world police in the seas. If not the US, who do you think is going to step in?

 

[sdifox]

Isn't Red Sea narrowest near Yemen? Like 18mi across? Missing by 10mi is basically nowhere near.

The Bab el-Mandeb Strait is a strategic route for oil and natural gas shipments

www.eia.gov

 

[Drach]

one of those missles landing on a US Ship will open up a huge can of worms... all it takes is one missile to get through. the fact that missiles landed 10 miles away from a US DDG raises a huge alarm for me. how much longer can the US just let them fly?

Also for those saying the US should stop playing the world police in the seas. If not the US, who do you think is going to step in?

Lets find out. The world does not respect the US trying to be the worlds police. I think it's time for us to respond to legitimate requests from friendly countries.
Israel is out. They made their bed. They can lay in it.
I just want to get to a point that my country trys to help the countries that need the help the most. That will leave a lasting impression .
The Israelis have become the Nati's that we helped to elimanate.
The Israelis have proven them to be the modern day nati's.
gaza is the equivalent of a natzi concentration camp
I am fine with killing everyone associated with hamas.

 

[Jaskalas]

Prevent international recognition. Prevent international banking / funds transfer. Prevent insurance of any vessel using a Houthi port. Let their promises to their people turn into ash, force them into cruelty to keep order, make them more hated then what came before them. Make them the punch line to a cruel joke that makes everyone that sees the suffering think twice before embracing anyone like them.

But violence toward them? Pointless waste of money.

At most, perhaps selling the Saudi's some toys to continue their war against the Houthis. At market rate. Let the Saudi's make the profoundly stupid mistakes.

Economic response, up to and including a blockade?
It sounds interesting, if only because our capacity to intercept is rather huge. So currently they pose a low threat to our war ships. Commercial ships are another matter entirely. We may not have the ammo efficiency or physical coverage to protect all ships in transit. Any time we intercept a drone with a missile, we lose the economic exchange. I think Yemen might be willing to suffer in exchange for taking down the Suez canal for literal years, potentially. But we should certainly start with posing this challenge to them, and see if they want us to escalate to find a solution.

As for letting the Saudis take the gloves off, that could be an ideal solution. They too are probably tired of receiving missile attacks.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

What a fuck-fest. Obama supports Saudi action against Yemen to try and stop the Houthis, Houthis still topple government and take control.

Trump enacts US naval blockade against Yemen. 75,000 children starve to death as a result. Houthis still in power.

Now missiles are flying at shipping traffic. God damn regime change is the wrong answer, and doing nothing is a wrong answer. Doing anything else will be seen as a half measure.

Maybe it is time some Iranian assets got got with a clear message to fucking lay off global shipping or there will be problems.

 

[Jaskalas]

Speaking of drones....
A large attack wave of 14 drones was just intercepted by the USS Carney.
At least, large by modern standards of drone use. Some day it could be hundreds or thousands in a single attack. Whatever their benefactors are willing to provide.

Trying to embed US CENTCOM twitter, but no luck...
Here's the first google news link, in case twitter does not load.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736035863849824595

 

[Leeea]

one of those missles landing on a US Ship will open up a huge can of worms... all it takes is one missile to get through. the fact that missiles landed 10 miles away from a US DDG raises a huge alarm for me. how much longer can the US just let them fly?

Also for those saying the US should stop playing the world police in the seas. If not the US, who do you think is going to step in?

10 miles away? Who gives a crap? Maybe it is time the US DDG should pull back out of range.


As for world police. If someone wants an escort, services are available for a fee. Why am I paying for it? Why do I care about a Nigerian flagged oil tanker going to China?

 

[Leeea]

Lets find out. The world does not respect the US trying to be the worlds police. I think it's time for us to respond to legitimate requests from friendly countries.
Israel is out. They made their bed. They can lay in it.
I just want to get to a point that my country trys to help the countries that need the help the most. That will leave a lasting impression .
The Israelis have become the Nati's that we helped to elimanate.
The Israelis have proven them to be the modern day nati's.
gaza is the equivalent of a natzi concentration camp
I am fine with killing everyone associated with hamas.

I completely disagree.

The Isrealie's have money. If they want to pay for an escort we should be happy to provide. Factoring in additional costs for munitions expended of course.


Ships are expensive. Risking American's is questionable, but we also need to learn how to fight these new threats before we learn the hard way against a real enemy. Getting someone else to pay for it all? Gravy.

 

[Leeea]

Speaking of drones....
A large attack wave of 14 drones was just intercepted by the USS Carney.
At least, large by modern standards of drone use. Some day it could be hundreds or thousands in a single attack. Whatever their benefactors are willing to provide.

Trying to embed US CENTCOM twitter, but no luck...
Here's the first google news link, in case twitter does not load.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736035863849824595

We need to learn how to fight this. Our ships are setup for this though. The electrical systems were overbuilt with plans to have them run rail guns, lasers, microwave systems, etc. Just need to figure out the right system.

 

[Dave_5k]

10 miles away? Who gives a crap? Maybe it is time the US DDG should pull back out of range.


As for world police. If someone wants an escort, services are available for a fee. Why am I paying for it? Why do I care about a Nigerian flagged oil tanker going to China?

The Houthis have short range ballistic missiles a range of at least 300 miles, and perhaps as much as 600 miles (mostly low-accuracy SCUDS like that 10 mile miss), but they also have Iranian-derived medium range missiles with upwards of 1000 mile range and far better accuracy, although believed to be in limited quantities.

U.S. backing out of range = leaving the Red Sea entirely and the Gulf of Aden, and effectively allowing blockade of the Suez canal.

Edit: as for world police, I don't really disagree. There's an argument to be made that we should only protect US flagged shipping or shipping that agrees to pay a significant fee for protection. Or in exchange with allies that provide substantial navy patrols of their own. China does run their own navy patrols in the region supposedly to "jointly" suppress piracy, but in practice they refuse to intervene to protect any non-Chinese shipping.

 

[evident]

We need to learn how to fight this. Our ships are setup for this though. The electrical systems were overbuilt with plans to have them run rail guns, lasers, microwave systems, etc. Just need to figure out the right system.

Which ddg deployed there has a working rail gun system or laser system?

 

[MrSquished]

what we should do is bomb all redneck red areas in the deep south and midwest and start to fix this country finally.

 

[IJTSSG]

what we should do is bomb all redneck red areas in the deep south and midwest and start to fix this country finally.

It's really too bad that your suicide attempts weren't successful.

This is clearly over the top. You cannot wish death on a fellow poster.
Perknose
Forum Director

 

[K1052]

Which ddg deployed there has a working rail gun system or laser system?

DDG-88 has HELIOS (60kw) integrated and more will get it IIRC.

Future classes like whatever comes out of DDG(X) are supposed to get 150kw and up I think. Arleigh Burkes out of power due to SPY-6.

 

[MrSquished]

It's really too bad that your suicide attempts weren't successful

Ok? So you are a horrific nazi supporter like the rest of them. I think I know some of your posting history. We'd be better off if people like you moved to mars and let actual humans with souls run the joint. Go with Elon and the rest of that trash.

How does it feel to be born without a soul?

edit: I just had to look at a few of your posts. You are that person that we'd be better off as a species if you didn't exist. A cockroach with a keyboard.
As far as my mental health issues which included a suicide attempt at 18, which was thirty years ago, I haven't posted that in ages. Look, you barely post here until your recent 'nobody wants to work for you' because they are lazy thread, but turns out you are just a shithead post and nobody wants to work for scumbags. You must really have a hard on for me to dig that deep and that long ago. Fucking hilarious. Obsess much? Loser.

Want me to send you a nude?

 

[evident]

DDG-88 has HELIOS (60kw) integrated and more will get it IIRC.

Future classes like whatever comes out of DDG(X) are supposed to get 150kw and up I think. Arleigh Burkes out of power due to SPY-6.

Is 88 In the theater right now? Also not sure if helios has ever shot down a bm. The ones in theater have the capability to intercept bms though.

 

[iRONic]

what we should do is bomb all redneck red areas in the deep south and midwest and start to fix this country finally.

…and there’s the loud part. Out loud even.