Iran's Houthis fire missiles at global shipping, risk closing red sea

[darkswordsman17]

No, i stand by what i said, none of this happened until after Israel started to quicken their genocide of Gaza


Some of us seem to be ok with Israel killing 30,000 Palestinians, but cry such crocodile tears when it impacts shipping, cause that seems to be a step to fucking far and i find that very distasteful, that money means more than human lives (and to date the Houthi's have not inured anyone in their attacks unless i am mistaken)

Well duh, its the good old Bender paradox, aka, the worst kind of discrimination is the kind that affects me. Israel murdering Palestinians doesn't really affect Americans, but oh boy, its gonna disrupt their cheap shit they're buying off Temu, Wish, etc, then we must wage neverending war in the Middle East once more! But of course chickenshits like Jackasslass won't ever put their butts on the line cause they're fucking worthless cowards. Instead, they'll demand some poor kid from rural America goes to die for his freedom to buy disposable jerkoff socks, like the pathetic wannabe Henry Kissingers they are.

 

[darkswordsman17]

The Houthis are indiscriminately targeting commercial shipping that is merely transiting the Red Sea and has little to do with the US or Israel. Stop giving into their paper thin excuses for piracy and violence.

And they were indiscriminately bombed by Saudi Arabia with American weapons, stop giving into the paper thin excuses for genocide! You act like the Houthis just decided to do this for no reason whatsoever. Meanwhile you have pathetic losers like Jackasslass demanding we cue up another fucking war and then wonder why we keep having to deal with extremism. Maybe the West should've thought about that shit before exporting their malice for centuries?

I think we could solve both issues. Run an oil pipeline through the Gaza Strip, letting Palestinians get all the money for port access, so ships can sail the Mediterranean. Palestinians get money for social programs to rebuild. Israel fucks with it and they should be treated like you want the Houthis treated.

 

[Leeea]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/16/us-strikes-yemen-houthis/

more strikes on Houthi targets, this time as they move to setup to target civilian shipping.



Over all, the Houthi's are still in a civil war, and I think their enemies will start to begin to take advantage of this situation.

 

[cytg111]

Then you might know my response to this.
But what would you say we need to do, given the totality of Iran's actions. From arming Russia, directing Houthi attacks on international shipping, and now the Iranian state throwing ballistic missiles at our people.

Iran launches ballistic missiles towards U.S. forces in Iraq​

Sky News reported that the U.S. Consulate in Erbil was attacked by "long-range missiles with great destructive capacity." Additionally, Sky News reported that several missiles were intercepted before reaching the U.S. base at Erbil airport.​

Well it's an idea to do *something* before they get their first nuke and turns into a worse Russia.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Well it's an idea to do *something* before they get their first nuke and turns into a worse Russia.

-Its almost like we had a system in place to normalize relations with Iran while also preventing them from getting a nuke before it all got thrown out the window and shat on in 2020.

 

[cytg111]

-Its almost like we had a system in place to normalize relations with Iran while also preventing them from getting a nuke before it all got thrown out the window and shat on in 2020.

Indeed. But that was the brown mans creation so it had to go.
Is there a path back to such a deal? With all the shit going on right now?

 

[Ajay]

Indeed. But that was the brown mans creation so it had to go.
Is there a path back to such a deal? With all the shit going on right now?

And neo-cons and their successors have a hard-on for anything that punishes Iran more harshly - even at the risk of further development of their nuclear program**. Which, is clearly NUTZ!

** they are probably counting on the Israeli's to help us in 'setting back' that program via covert actions and targeted assignations (which Mossad are very good at).

 

[Leeea]

Just to be clear here, the Houthi's are pure evil.

They have taken the extreme policy position of the complete extermination of all Jews.

In Houthi territory they run camps to forcefully indoctrinate the population to their ideology, and forcefully convert Bahais and Christian minorities.

They abduct and torture women in their areas. The abduct and torture political opponents.


Killing a Houthi combatant by definition makes the world a better place. It doesn't matter the motivation. It does not matter the why. These people are black and white evil.


https://www.adl.org/resources/news/why-do-houthis-curse-jews

"will not be delivered from the evil of the Jews except by their eradication, and by the elimination of their entity"

"Additionally, he tried to paint the Prophet Muhammed as an anti-Jewish role model in this regard, asserting he too “was able to eliminate the Jews.”

Al-Houthi went so far in this sermon as to blame the Jewish people for every malady in the world today, claiming “the Jews are really ruling the world.”

https://www.uscirf.gov/sites/default/files/2023-05/2023%20Factsheet%20Houthi%20%281%29.pdf

Religious minority life in Houthi-controlled areas faces near-total extinction; Houthi targeting of Baha’is, Christians, Jews, and non-religious persons has compelled many to flee to the south or leave Yemen entirely seeking safety and refuge abroad

For instance, in Houthi-controlled areas, authorities have set up “summer camps” at mosques and schools to indoctrinate civilians with Houthi religious ideology, even when these trainings
were contrary to the individuals’ own religious beliefs.

The situation of women living under Houthi rule has also grown more dire. Authorities have increasingly imposed policies with a religious underpinning that restrict women’s religious freedom. These include male guardian requirements for travel and forced segregation in public spaces.

the above quote does not do it justice, read the section, it is systematic crime after crime on a grand scale. It will make your blood boil.

Preventing the Next Kabul: Confronting the Houthi’s Violent Suppression of Women in Yemen

Since 2014, the Houthi militia has abducted and tortured hundreds of women and forced their seclusion through indoctrination with foreign ideology. The violations of women’s rights and international norms cannot go unpunished unless Sana’a is to become a second Kabul.

www.wilsoncenter.org

Since 2014, the Houthi militia has abducted and tortured hundreds of women and forced their seclusion through indoctrination with foreign ideology. The violations of women’s rights and international norms cannot go unpunished unless Sana’a is to become a second Kabul.

Yemen: Abusive Detention Rife Under Houthis

Houthi and other Sanaa-based authorities in Yemen have arbitrarily detained, tortured, and forcibly disappeared numerous opponents, Human Rights Watch said today. Among the hundreds of cases of arbitrary detention reported by Yemeni groups since September 2014, Human Rights Watch recently...

www.hrw.org

After al-Guneid was held for three months, officers at the NSB began needing his services as a doctor and moved him to a new cell. He began treating patients, including those whose injuries, he said, were probably a result of mistreatment or torture during interrogations. “Many people came to me crying because they were tortured,” he said. “I am one of the very few that was not beaten up.”

Ghazi said that his organization was working on behalf of more than 2,500 detainees and disappeared people. He said that as of August, the Sanaa-based authorities were holding at least 650 people in the Habra and al-Thawra pretrial detention facilities, another 660 to 700 in Sanaa Central Prison, and 30 to 40 at the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) in Sanaa.

Scores of detainees are also being held at non-official detention sites. Ghazi said that authorities were holding 120 people at the Political Security Organization (PSO) headquarters, 180 at Zain al-Abdeen mosque in Hiziyaz, and 35 at the National Security Bureau (NSB) in Sanaa’s Old City.

Sometimes, Evil is just Evil. Sometimes, things are black and white. Sometimes, killing someone does make the world a better place. Regardless of why they were murdered.

 

[MrSquished]

Just to be clear here, the Houthi's are pure evil.

They have taken the extreme policy position of the complete extermination of all Jews.

In Houthi territory they run camps to forcefully indoctrinate the population to their ideology, and forcefully convert Bahais and Christian minorities.

They abduct and torture women in their areas. The abduct and torture political opponents.


Killing a Houthi combatant by definition makes the world a better place. It doesn't matter the motivation. It does not matter the why. These people are black and white evil.


https://www.adl.org/resources/news/why-do-houthis-curse-jews

https://www.uscirf.gov/sites/default/files/2023-05/2023%20Factsheet%20Houthi%20%281%29.pdf

the above quote does not do it justice, read the section, it is systematic crime after crime on a grand scale. It will make your blood boil.

Preventing the Next Kabul: Confronting the Houthi’s Violent Suppression of Women in Yemen

Since 2014, the Houthi militia has abducted and tortured hundreds of women and forced their seclusion through indoctrination with foreign ideology. The violations of women’s rights and international norms cannot go unpunished unless Sana’a is to become a second Kabul.

www.wilsoncenter.org

Yemen: Abusive Detention Rife Under Houthis

Houthi and other Sanaa-based authorities in Yemen have arbitrarily detained, tortured, and forcibly disappeared numerous opponents, Human Rights Watch said today. Among the hundreds of cases of arbitrary detention reported by Yemeni groups since September 2014, Human Rights Watch recently...

www.hrw.org

Sometimes, Evil is just Evil. Sometimes, things are black and white. Sometimes, killing someone does make the world a better place. Regardless of why they were murdered.

Agreed, sometimes evil is just evil. We see it right here in this country with many MAGA. They may have turned out into decent people in different circumstances, but we are at this point, and they are not coming back. They are what they are. Just like radical zionists that want to cleanse palestine, also evil. Put them all in a pot with the Houthis and let them live on a big fucking island. Maga, radical zionists, houthis, putin's crew, etc...

 

[KMFJD]

Good ol' insurance companies

 

[Jaskalas]

Looks like terrorism is winning.
Our resolve to kill our enemies pales compared to theirs.
The United States is weak and will no longer protect free transit of the oceans. We haven't even begun to feel the consequences, as over the coming years and decades, more nations join the Russian / China bloc and use violent force to extract their toll and remove us from the global stage.

• Red Sea attacks already bigger issue for supply chain than pandemic, maritime advisory warns​

• Fears of prolonged Red Sea shipping crisis fuel inflation fears, as oil, retail cargo delays rise​

 

[Leeea]

Looks like terrorism is winning.
Our resolve to kill our enemies pales compared to theirs.
The United States is weak and will no longer protect free transit of the oceans. We haven't even begun to feel the consequences, as over the coming years and decades, more nations join the Russian / China bloc and use violent force to extract their toll and remove us from the global stage.

• Red Sea attacks already bigger issue for supply chain than pandemic, maritime advisory warns​

• Fears of prolonged Red Sea shipping crisis fuel inflation fears, as oil, retail cargo delays rise​

You realize this hurts Russia / China far more then it hurts us?

Our trade goes over the Pacific. The Atlantic. This is not our trade.


This does not even hurt Israel all that much, for Israel has access to the Mediterranean.


Who does this really hurt? Who needs to ship oil and goods through this canal? Goods between China and the middle east? Goods between China and Africa? Oil to China? Goods to Russia? Oil from Russia?


We have associates involved. Egypt. Saudi Arabia. UAE. I understand why Biden moved. I do not agree with it, but I understand it. It makes sense. I will support my nation and the military in this.


But lets be blunt, we could have walked on this and it would not have been Russia and China that filled the void. It would be something far more evil.

Because that is what the Houthi's are. Evil.


Will what we are doing end the Houthis? no. Will it stop them from expanding? yes. Will it prevent them from filling a power void? yes. Is that a good thing? yes. Is it something we should be doing? No, but sadly nobody else is capable of standing up.


We are a failing nation, but even in our twilight the darkness skitters from our corrupted light.

 

[brycejones]

Looks like terrorism is winning.
Our resolve to kill our enemies pales compared to theirs.
The United States is weak and will no longer protect free transit of the oceans. We haven't even begun to feel the consequences, as over the coming years and decades, more nations join the Russian / China bloc and use violent force to extract their toll and remove us from the global stage.

• Red Sea attacks already bigger issue for supply chain than pandemic, maritime advisory warns​

• Fears of prolonged Red Sea shipping crisis fuel inflation fears, as oil, retail cargo delays rise​

Your option is what specifically? Be honest about how far you're willing to go today.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748440686842487289

UK navy is doing a bang up job for the Houthi's

 

[Ajay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748440686842487289

UK navy is doing a bang up job for the Houthi's

"vulnerable to gusting winds" Uh, it wasn't exactly a typhoon out there. That captain is getting 'promoted' to logistics.

 

[Jaskalas]

You realize this hurts Russia / China far more then it hurts us?
Our trade goes over the Pacific. The Atlantic. This is not our trade.
This does not even hurt Israel all that much, for Israel has access to the Mediterranean.
Who does this really hurt? Who needs to ship oil and goods through this canal? Goods between China and the middle east? Goods between China and Africa? Oil to China? Goods to Russia? Oil from Russia?

If Russia / China had to choose, Iran would definitely be their baby. And they don't seem to care if it splashes over onto them, so long as it hurts us.
As for consequences, I had just linked some news reports to demonstrate that. But if you clamor for more:

Inflation isn’t beaten yet and risks of a new price shock are rising​

Attacks by Iran-backed Houthi militants in the Red Sea mean many container ships, oil tankers and bulk carriers, which transport raw materials, have been forced to take a longer route around Africa, sending shipping and insurance costs through the roof.​

Yes, much of that shipping involves Europe rather than us. But global markets have a way of connecting the dots and if one segment burns, the rest can follow.
There are consequences to losing much of the traffic transiting the Suez canal.

But lets be blunt, we could have walked on this and it would not have been Russia and China that filled the void. It would be something far more evil.
Because that is what the Houthi's are. Evil.
Will what we are doing end the Houthis? no. Will it stop them from expanding? yes. Will it prevent them from filling a power void? yes. Is that a good thing? yes. Is it something we should be doing? No, but sadly nobody else is capable of standing up.

Despite making some noise and throwing some missiles, the United States is not giving ANY sign of actually stepping up and ending the Houthis here. We are going to do far less than what is necessary to get the "job" done. We are vowing to secure the oceans, but we are clearly not willing to go all in and accomplish it.

How do you see us standing up and effecting meaningful change, or finding a resolution here?
To use your terms, evil is winning this contest. We are losing.

Houthis embrace ‘direct confrontation’ with U.S. as Biden admits airstrikes aren’t working​

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748440686842487289

UK navy is doing a bang up job for the Houthi's

Guy at the end is like 'goddamnit, better text the wife I'ma be late'

 

[K1052]

Just orbit drones over Houthi territory loaded with SDBs and smoke anything that looks like a threat for the next six months. Stop firing expensive TLAMs into these assholes.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748692030782382231

yeah that just needs some bondo and will be all good

 

[pcgeek11]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1748440686842487289

UK navy is doing a bang up job for the Houthi's

I wonder where the Tug Boats are....?

I also didn't see any action from the drifting ship that would indicate she was under her own propulsion...

Appeared to just drift backwards into the side of the moored ship.

 

[hal2kilo]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/16/us-strikes-yemen-houthis/

more strikes on Houthi targets, this time as they move to setup to target civilian shipping.



Over all, the Houthi's are still in a civil war, and I think their enemies will start to begin to take advantage of this situation.

I've been thinking SA, think it might be time? Maybe Bibi's got a deal?

 

[KMFJD]

I wonder where the Tug Boats are....?

I also didn't see any action from the drifting ship that would indicate she was under her own propulsion...

Appeared to just drift backwards into the side of the moored ship.

apparently the propulsion was wired up incorrectly or something like that, it had just been inspected as well....

 

[KMFJD]

I've been thinking SA, think it might be time? Maybe Bibi's got a deal?

Everything i've read says that the 'official' government in western eyes is limited to Aden, there's also Al Qaeda forces and a UAE sponsored faction out in the sparsely populated desert region between Oman and Saudi Arabia. SA doesn't want anything to do with Yemen any more after they showed the ability to hit their centers of oil production a couple of years ago.


STC is the government the west thinks should be in power, The Hadi coalition is favored by UAE.



Majority of the population is in the parts the Ansarallah (Houthi) control


Also in semi related news, the Iraqi's really want the US out of their country ~ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/21/us/politics/us-militias-tipping-point.html

 

[Drach]

Everything i've read says that the 'official' government in western eyes is limited to Aden, there's also Al Qaeda forces and a UAE sponsored faction out in the sparsely populated desert region between Oman and Saudi Arabia. SA doesn't want anything to do with Yemen any more after they showed the ability to hit their centers of oil production a couple of years ago.
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Majority of the population is in the parts the Ansarallah (Houthi) control


Also in semi related news, the Iraqi's really want the US out of their country ~ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/21/us/politics/us-militias-tipping-point.html

Excellent. It's way past time for the US to be out of Iraq. My apologies to it's citizens.

 

[KMFJD]

In regards to the UK's ship colliding

Royal Navy warships crashed into each other ‘due to faulty rewiring’

Wiring error meant HMS Chiddingfold went backwards when set to go forward and hit HMS Bangor in Bahrain, say sources

www.theguardian.com