Iraqi Insugents get PWNED!

[beemercer]

Originally posted by: Phokus
This needs to be posted:

http://images.somethingawful.com/insert...shop/05-21-04-magazines/dorquemada.jpg

:laugh:.

 

[senseamp]

So what was the plan?

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Fighting for governance of a country/land is the oldest movement in the world. Our country was founded on it and also had a civil war 100 years later.

Currently there's essentially no such thing as Iraq as we knew it anymore since there is no such thing as national governance (only a weak proclamation of one). The outcome of the current civil war and so-called insurgency against the US will dictate what kind of state(s) it will become, not was we say we want it to be. Imo, at this point we are essentially irrelevant to what it will become, and our additional 20k troups are simply an additional 20k targets for countless others to try and kill.

The civil war did not happen in 1876. We won our independence in 1776 and the US Civil was started in April 1861 to April 1865. Be sure you get your facts straight

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: Mears

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Vitamblu

Originally posted by: chrisms
YEA SWEET PEOPLE DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!! LUVITERLEEVIT!!!

You people make me sick.

Those are not humans. Maybe you should join them.

Yes, they are humans. There are two scenarios here:

They are Iraqi insurgents. In which case they are completely justified in fighting an occupying power (even many of our own troops will acknowledge this). If the Chinese came and wanted to set up their style of government and liberate us from Bush, would you greet them with flowers and candy? I think they are better off joining our side but you can't blame them for feeling that way.

They are al Queda insurgents. In which case they are likely extremely poor people without an education who were easily brainwashed. In the culture and environment they live it is easy to buy into terrorism. While a dead murderer is better than a living one, the fact that they had to be killed due to the situation over there is a sad one and I will not cheer for it. Its like putting your sick dog to sleep. While it is for the best, it is also not a cause for celebration. You are sick if you take pleasure in the death of another human being.

Nice simpleton view of the situation, which I am not surprised to find from someone on the left side of the aisle because complicated discussions regarding the Iraq situation are just too troublesome and encumbered with such things as "facts", anathema to the Left. Are these "freedom fighters" justified in murdering their own fellow citizens, police officers and military members as well?

I guess I am sick by your yardstick because every little scumbag that is killed by our military forces is one less who will kill innocent people, both in Iraq and around the world. Those same "extremely poor people" are the ones who killed 3,000 in New York, over fifty in London, and nearly 200 in Madrid, among other places and attacks that have taken place over the years. Do I pity them? Hardly -- I wish they would conduct live-fire suicide bombing practice before attempting attacks.

Your argument would only be valid if a took a marching army to pull off the acts that occurred in NYC, London, and Madrid. This war will not end terrorism.

FWIW, it' not supposed to. OBVIOUSLY the old way of thier thinking was turning up quite a body count. Our presense, as I see it, is more to evoke change. You may not agree with HOW, but the end result is:

Thin the numbers (despite what you think, we kill them faster than they respawn )
Expose to some semblence of freedom.
You think that loving thy terrorist is going to make them stop?

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: Kappo

Originally posted by: Mears

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Vitamblu

Originally posted by: chrisms
YEA SWEET PEOPLE DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!! LUVITERLEEVIT!!!

You people make me sick.

Those are not humans. Maybe you should join them.

Yes, they are humans. There are two scenarios here:

They are Iraqi insurgents. In which case they are completely justified in fighting an occupying power (even many of our own troops will acknowledge this). If the Chinese came and wanted to set up their style of government and liberate us from Bush, would you greet them with flowers and candy? I think they are better off joining our side but you can't blame them for feeling that way.

They are al Queda insurgents. In which case they are likely extremely poor people without an education who were easily brainwashed. In the culture and environment they live it is easy to buy into terrorism. While a dead murderer is better than a living one, the fact that they had to be killed due to the situation over there is a sad one and I will not cheer for it. Its like putting your sick dog to sleep. While it is for the best, it is also not a cause for celebration. You are sick if you take pleasure in the death of another human being.

Nice simpleton view of the situation, which I am not surprised to find from someone on the left side of the aisle because complicated discussions regarding the Iraq situation are just too troublesome and encumbered with such things as "facts", anathema to the Left. Are these "freedom fighters" justified in murdering their own fellow citizens, police officers and military members as well?

I guess I am sick by your yardstick because every little scumbag that is killed by our military forces is one less who will kill innocent people, both in Iraq and around the world. Those same "extremely poor people" are the ones who killed 3,000 in New York, over fifty in London, and nearly 200 in Madrid, among other places and attacks that have taken place over the years. Do I pity them? Hardly -- I wish they would conduct live-fire suicide bombing practice before attempting attacks.

Your argument would only be valid if a took a marching army to pull off the acts that occurred in NYC, London, and Madrid. This war will not end terrorism.

FWIW, it' not supposed to. OBVIOUSLY the old way of thier thinking was turning up quite a body count. Our presense, as I see it, is more to evoke change. You may not agree with HOW, but the end result is:

Thin the numbers (despite what you think, we kill them faster than they respawn )
Expose to some semblence of freedom.
You think that loving thy terrorist is going to make them stop?

The kill ratio for US Forces greater than 60:1 and many many of the US casulaties have been the result of accidents, car wrecks, fratracide, and self inflicted damage. And anyone who has played Counter Strike know that is a tough ratio to attain with out re-spawning.

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: senseamp
So what was the plan?

Kill them all untill they respect the Power of America more than they respect Allah's power.

 

[Rogodin2]

So what was the plan?

The 'plan' was that we would find the WMD that the administration admits 'were not there' and then find and destroy the terrorists that were responsible for 9-11.

What has happened is a travesty and an unnessary loss of United States soldiers and national resources.

I'm supremely dissapointed in the lack of awareness that this forum makes manifest.

Rogo

 

[shuttleboi]

You know what's a better video? The 9-11 one where the people are jumping out the window. It would have been better if they were uneducated rednecks jumping, but it's all good.

 

[senseamp]

I meant the insurgents' plan? Were they planning to just park their cars, launch RPGs at the bunkers, and NOT be fired upon? Seems like a stupid idea to do it in the middle of the day, and wearing masks while riding in the back of a truck, so everyone knows they are insurgents from a mile away. No element of surprise. It's too symmetrical and blunt of an attack, and these insurgents can only win in asymmetrical warfare. I think their main problem is they listened to the fat man. You do not listen to the fat man when it comes to guerilla warfare. He did not get fat by fighting Americans, you gotta be in shape for that, but by watching television and eating falafel.

 

[Vitamblu]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
According to a lot of political thought, rebellion is only sanctionable when the people are being repressed. Is the US opressing the Iraqi people...no. Therefore anyone who feels rebellion is justified is another Michael Moore brainwashee dealing in subversion. Go Hanoi Janes!

:roll:

I bet that's some awesome political thought you've got there.

It's better than some political thought where you blame america for everything.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: chrisms
YEA SWEET PEOPLE DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!! LUVITERLEEVIT!!!

You people make me sick.

While it is true, I can see where you're coming from, do you not understand who these people are? Has CNN actually whitewashed these people to look honorable??

 

[shuttleboi]

The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

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Goodbye.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
You know what's a better video? The 9-11 one where the people are jumping out the window. It would have been better if they were uneducated rednecks jumping, but it's all good.

^
Ban this guy.

And your comparison is invalid. The people jumping from the buildings were innocent victims, while the insurgents are actively trying to kill our forces. You don't see us cheering when innocent Iraqi civilians are killed, do you?

 

[91TTZ]

Shuttleboi, you and your ilk are idiots.

You speak of the problem being "uneducated rednecks", but the problem stems from educated, powerful people like those in upper government. Why blame the people? They're just being manipulated.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: chrisms
YEA SWEET PEOPLE DYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!! LUVITERLEEVIT!!!

You people make me sick.

When it's Iraqi insurgents vs. American soldiers, I'm always pulling for the Iraqi's to die.

I suppose given the choice I would hope the Americans wouldn't die. That doesn't mean these people deserved to die. Its an unfortunate situation all around. They're fighting against a foreign occupying power, would you not do the same thing?

Its tragic what is happening there. To both sides. And to post some video and cheer the deaths of a bunch of people is immature at best.

It depends. If I was brain washed, twisted into believing my religion promoted this nonsense, and it wasn't even my country, but my ruler told me too, or else I'd get shot, sure, I'd do it.

Originally posted by: homercles337
Im glad they were thwarted and none of our service men/women were hurt or killed. However i do empathize with efforts. If a strong muslim country invaded the US and tried to instill a theocracy at gunpoint i would be pissed and may be one of those dead fools.

edit: i dont expect many in OT to understand my perspective.

I definitely understand your perspective, but these guys have already done that. They've done 5 different times. Will it take a full scale invasion for you to be sufficiently pissed? The world can't wait for you.

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

Lol, you're quite CNN's mouthpiece aren't you, little man? Well I'll address you: These are not freedom fighters, merely manipulated fools who are incompetent to see their religion being twisted to make them violent.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Next?

 

[Vitamblu]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

How they are equilavent to Washington. Did Washington suicide bomb innocent people? Did Washington use terror? People like you make me sick. Your liberal michael moorism political view is so fvcked up that you end up hating and blaming america for everything.

 

[Vitamblu]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
You know what's a better video? The 9-11 one where the people are jumping out the window. It would have been better if they were uneducated rednecks jumping, but it's all good.

Wow you are so fvcked up. Watch more Michael Moore's film please.

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
You know what's a better video? The 9-11 one where the people are jumping out the window. It would have been better if they were uneducated rednecks jumping, but it's all good.

Your really twisted.:disgust:

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

So you would have rather seen that same video end up with dead US soldiers instead of dead insurgents?

:roll:

 

[Troll4Hire]

Originally posted by: Vitamblu

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

How they are equilavent to Washington. Did Washington suicide bomb innocent people? Did Washington use terror? People like you make me sick. Your liberal michael moorism political view is so fvcked up that you end up hating and blaming america for everything.

:thumbsup:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Ahhhh, that makes me wish I was there.

http://images.somethingawful.com/insert...shop/05-21-04-magazines/dorquemada.jpg

HAHAHA that's so awesome. how'd you find the pic of 91ttz?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Aimster
people fighting foreign troops in their occupied territory are not horrible people ..

people killing civilians are horrible people..

I dont know squat about these men so I will hold off on my opinions.

By the way they deserved to die because they started a fight, but to cheer their death... meh. Why cheer?

exactly

 

[shuttleboi]

Originally posted by: Troll4Hire

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

So you would have rather seen that same video end up with dead US soldiers instead of dead insurgents?

:roll:

YES!!! :thumbsup:
This is ooouuur country!!! :music:

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Ahhhh, that makes me wish I was there.

http://images.somethingawful.com/insert...shop/05-21-04-magazines/dorquemada.jpg

HAHAHA that's so awesome. how'd you find the pic of 91ttz?

I already posted a picture of myself on this forum:

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I have an odd feeling that you'd be very respectful towards me if we met in person.

 

[shuttleboi]

Originally posted by: Vitamblu

Originally posted by: shuttleboi
The people cheering on insurgents dying make me sick. They are the equivalent to our George Washington; they are fighting for freedom. Our soldiers over there are the ones who should be drawn and quartered.

How they are equilavent to Washington. Did Washington suicide bomb innocent people? Did Washington use terror? People like you make me sick. Your liberal michael moorism political view is so fvcked up that you end up hating and blaming america for everything.

Almost, Washington and his troops hid behind trees and and obstacles and shot at the Brits, who, by standard rules of engagement back in those days, lined up in rows. What do you think Washington was doing? Acting like a goddamn terrorist.

And how do you want those insurgents to fight? With F-16 jets, thanks, and cruise missles? They are like Macgyver: they are fighting with what they have. God bless those insurgents. Jesus would have been proud, too.