Iraqi Journalist: The People of Falluja Left the City Before the Fighting Began

Beowulf

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Iraqi Journalist: The People of Falluja Left the City Before the Fighting Began

The following are excerpts from an interview with Iraqi journalist>Muhammd 'Abd Al-Jabar:

Presenter, Amr Nassef: Peace upon you and may you have a good year. This is what we say: "May you have a good year," even though there is nothing good about the condition of the Arabs and Muslims. What good is there in what we see in Iraq? What good can we expect from the Sharm Al-Sheikh conference about Iraq, which will take place in a few days?

Have you seen Colonel Michael Regner, the operations commander of the Marines, and did you hear what he said? He stood in front of the ruins of Falluja, amidst hundreds of bodies strewn about the roads, and said: "This is the path of Iraq. Democracy begins here."

Oh Arabs, rejoice, the clouds have dispersed. Democracy can only be through killing children, women, and the elderly. Freedom can only be achieved by getting rid of those who take shelter in mosques. Culture can only prevail through the violation of religious teachings and the laws of mercy decreed by God and Man.

Muhammd 'Abd Al-Jabar editor, Iraqi Al-Sabah: Before I even begin, I think I must say that I am not convinced that you are capable of leading an objective and neutral debate on this program, because and excuse me for saying so ? you opened this program with a prejudiced political and ideological monologue. You are looking at reality from the outside and you have presented biased questions, as though you want to direct the viewer to a certain point outlined in your mind, as the host of this program. I believe that at least from a media perspective, the entire picture should be presented to the viewers, with maximal neutrality and objectivity.

My dear, you work in a television station with resources, which can send cameramen to where the people of Fallujah fled, and then you will be able to see? Excuse me I'm answering your question. Then you will be able to see and confirm that some 200,000 Falllujah people fled the city and live in camps put up on advance, or by their relatives and families in other cities in Iraq. If you are not aware of this, it is your own problem, my brother, since you work in media and present such a program. You are supposed to make your best effort to investigate what happened to the people of the city, who had to leave before the military activity, a week ago.
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=370

Yup all we did was kill innocents in Fallujah.
 

jpeyton

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Well we'll know the truth soon enough about how successful the siege of Falluja was.

Just waiting for the next news about insurgency returning to the city...any day now.
 

Aimster

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There were hundreds of thousands of people living in that city. You expect every one of them to leave? Leave where? If you were asked to leave your home right now and you had no money where would you go? This isn't like the U.S were you just pack up and go get a hotel. Not many of them even have cars to leave.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Beowulf

So you know more than an Iraqi???????????????
Nice pictures too bad but it happens.
Maybe one day they'll be greeted like this http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371

sick man. what if it was ur kids and brothers and wives and mothers being blown to bits by a 500lb bomb?
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Aimster
There were hundreds of thousands of people living in that city. You expect every one of them to leave? Leave where? If you were asked to leave your home right now and you had no money where would you go? This isn't like the U.S were you just pack up and go get a hotel. Not many of them even have cars to leave.

Thats correct but plenty of them left what I mean't was we aren't in there killing only innocents like some say.I wish all the innocents safety I don't feel they should be punished for a few fundies but I can not sit here and protect them.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf

So you know more than an Iraqi???????????????
Nice pictures too bad but it happens.
Maybe one day they'll be greeted like this http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371

sick man. what if it was ur kids and brothers and wives and mothers being blown to bits by a 500lb bomb?

Brother is a Marine in Iraq so stop crying no one cries when his friend/him is shot by a crazy Islamic mofo who thinks Allah loves him because he dies for him.So do you condemn this btw http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371.
 

Beowulf

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BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf

So you know more than an Iraqi???????????????
Nice pictures too bad but it happens.
Maybe one day they'll be greeted like this http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371

sick man. what if it was ur kids and brothers and wives and mothers being blown to bits by a 500lb bomb?

Brother is a Marine in Iraq so stop crying no one cries when his friend/him is shot by a crazy Islamic mofo who thinks Allah loves him because he dies for him.So do you condemn this btw http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371.

I think the rest of the Arabs have better class than the Palestinian people. Palestinian people believe in some crazy crap. Lebanon/Jordan are flooded with Palestinians. I think Jordan = 70% Palestinian.
I hope that the Palestinian belief system never spreads as far up as Iraq. Sadly, crazy foreigners have flooded Iraq.

 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.

and i wonder how many innocent people your brother has shot and killed. see the videos of falluja, you can watch the marines cheering and giving high fives.
 

dahunan

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BTW, can you find the credentials for this jounalist?

He could very easily be a plant by the US led forces...they have been shutting down many news outlets for not agreeing to write what they tell them to.
 

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf
BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.

and i wonder how many innocent people your brother has shot and killed. see the videos of falluja, you can watch the marines cheering and giving high fives.

Yeah, and if I just killed half a dozen people that were trying to kill me, i'd probably cheer too!
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf
BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.

and i wonder how many innocent people your brother has shot and killed. see the videos of falluja, you can watch the marines cheering and giving high fives.

Yeah, and if I just killed half a dozen people that were trying to kill me, i'd probably cheer too!

Why is either side trying to kill each other?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf
BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.

and i wonder how many innocent people your brother has shot and killed. see the videos of falluja, you can watch the marines cheering and giving high fives.

Yeah, and if I just killed half a dozen people that were trying to kill me, i'd probably cheer too!

Why is either side trying to kill each other?

Does anyone remember anymore?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Jeez, even take a look at Amnesty International's coverage. Even they (who have just a slight [sarcasm meter goes off scale] tendancy to be biased against organized military groups have half their coverage covering stuff by Iraqis.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Beowulf
BTW there are plenty of peacful ppl in Iraq my brother has several Kurdish friends from the Iraqi National Guard.

and i wonder how many innocent people your brother has shot and killed. see the videos of falluja, you can watch the marines cheering and giving high fives.

Yeah, and if I just killed half a dozen people that were trying to kill me, i'd probably cheer too!

I think thats exactly what the Hezbollah martyrs have to say. so...
 

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Beowulf

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Beowulf
So you know more than an Iraqi???????????????
Nice pictures too bad but it happens.
Maybe one day they'll be greeted like this http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=371
Too bad but it happens?

You sick fvck.

Awwwwww coming from you I'll take that as a compliment
 

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ah yes, the People of Fallujah. A mass gigantic organism that moves in one motion from place to place, leaving none of itself behind. LOL I think if you actually see what Marines are saying they will tell you that there were civilians there. Oh no, but you'd rather take the word of an reporter that wasn't even there.

Maybe the next time you see your brother you should ask him...if you trust him enough.
 

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It is impossible that all The People of Falluja left.

There were plenty killed by both sides. this is just a sad war.

The last thing the Iraqi people need is to live under Islamist rule like this "insurgents" want them too. Then again I cannot bring myself to say innocent people should die right now for the future.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: drewshin
ah yes, the People of Fallujah. A mass gigantic organism that moves in one motion from place to place, leaving none of itself behind. LOL I think if you actually see what Marines are saying they will tell you that there were civilians there. Oh no, but you'd rather take the word of an reporter that wasn't even there.

Learn to read the post.BTW Brother is a Marine so I have enough of an idea what happens from someone actually doing the fighting not reporting.


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Originally posted by: Aimster
There were hundreds of thousands of people living in that city. You expect every one of them to leave? Leave where? If you were asked to leave your home right now and you had no money where would you go? This isn't like the U.S were you just pack up and go get a hotel. Not many of them even have cars to leave.
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Thats correct but plenty of them left what I mean't was we aren't in there killing only innocents like some say.I wish all the innocents safety I don't feel they should be punished for a few fundies but I can not sit here and protect them.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
Iraqi Journalist: The People of Falluja Left the City Before the Fighting Began

The following are excerpts from an interview with Iraqi journalist>Muhammd 'Abd Al-Jabar:

Presenter, Amr Nassef: Peace upon you and may you have a good year. This is what we say: "May you have a good year," even though there is nothing good about the condition of the Arabs and Muslims. What good is there in what we see in Iraq? What good can we expect from the Sharm Al-Sheikh conference about Iraq, which will take place in a few days?

Have you seen Colonel Michael Regner, the operations commander of the Marines, and did you hear what he said? He stood in front of the ruins of Falluja, amidst hundreds of bodies strewn about the roads, and said: "This is the path of Iraq. Democracy begins here."

Oh Arabs, rejoice, the clouds have dispersed. Democracy can only be through killing children, women, and the elderly. Freedom can only be achieved by getting rid of those who take shelter in mosques. Culture can only prevail through the violation of religious teachings and the laws of mercy decreed by God and Man.

Muhammd 'Abd Al-Jabar editor, Iraqi Al-Sabah: Before I even begin, I think I must say that I am not convinced that you are capable of leading an objective and neutral debate on this program, because and excuse me for saying so ? you opened this program with a prejudiced political and ideological monologue. You are looking at reality from the outside and you have presented biased questions, as though you want to direct the viewer to a certain point outlined in your mind, as the host of this program. I believe that at least from a media perspective, the entire picture should be presented to the viewers, with maximal neutrality and objectivity.

My dear, you work in a television station with resources, which can send cameramen to where the people of Fallujah fled, and then you will be able to see? Excuse me I'm answering your question. Then you will be able to see and confirm that some 200,000 Falllujah people fled the city and live in camps put up on advance, or by their relatives and families in other cities in Iraq. If you are not aware of this, it is your own problem, my brother, since you work in media and present such a program. You are supposed to make your best effort to investigate what happened to the people of the city, who had to leave before the military activity, a week ago.
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=370

Yup all we did was kill innocents in Fallujah.

So 200,000 people fled in a city of over 300,000 people? So there were over 100,000 insurgants in falluja alone? So mush for them being unpopular.


It does look like they found the way to win the hearts and minds. Media propaganda. I mean if it worked this well here, why shouldn't it work there?
 

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From true Iraqi journalists.

Onslaught: The Attack On Fallujah

The Human Cost
?Randy Gangle, a retired US marine colonel recently returned from the coalition base outside Falluja, said? the US military expected [civilian deaths] to number in the hundreds, not thousands.? (Guardian, 9 Nov., p. 2)

In order to manage perceptions of the human cost of the attack, the first objective was Fallujah?s main hospital. ?One unnamed senior American officer also admitted that the hospital had become a ?centre of propaganda,? reflecting the military?s frustration at the high death toll doctors frequently announce after American bombing raids. It was accounts of the hundreds killed during the first assault on Falluja in April that brought the operation to a rapid halt.? (Guardian, 9 Nov., p. 3)

?Sami al-Jumaili, a doctor at the main Falluja hospital who escaped arrest when it was taken on Monday, said the city was running out of supplies and only a few clinics remained open. ?There is not a single surgeon in Falluja. We had one ambulance hit by US fire and a doctor wounded. There are scores of injured civilians in their homes whom we can?t move.? (FT, 10 Nov., p. 9) Having destroyed one clinic before the assault (Observer, 7 Nov., p. 2), US forces reportedly destroyed an emergency hospital after taking the main hospital: ?Twenty Iraqi doctors and dozens of civilians were killed in a US airstrike that hit a clinic in Fallujah, according to an Iraqi doctor who said he survived the strike.?. (Independent, 11 Nov., p. 4)

Estimates of civilians remaining in Fallujah on 7 Nov. varied from 100,000 (US military, FT, 9 Nov., p. 10) to 60,000 (Sunni group, Independent, 10 Nov., p. 5). Estimates for the number of fighters left in Falluja before the assault varied ?from 600 to 6,000,? meaning that the overwhelming majority of people in Fallujah were thought to be non-combatants. It was reported that ?Anyone still in the city will be regarded as a potential insurgent.? (Observer, 7 Nov., p. 18) A threat to kill every human being in Fallujah.

At a hospital in Baghdad, the families of civilian victims evacuated from Fallujah ?claimed that US forces were bombing outlying villages where refugees have regrouped as well as the city.? (Times, 11 Nov., p. 9)

?From a humanitarian point of view, it is a disaster, there is no other way to describe it,? Firdoos al-Ubaidi, of the Red Crescent, said on 10 Nov. ?We have asked for permission from the Americans to go into the city and help the people there but we haven?t heard anything back from them. There?s no medicine, no water, no electricity.? ? (Times, 11 Nov., p. 9)

 
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