you need to learn to read, as well. Understanding the things you read will help you, too. Once you accomplish that mission, you should go back and read my posts, and put effort into understanding them.
Unlike you, hotshot, I don't need to take my time to "understand" what you're saying, because I'm fully literate. But hey, you really want me to destroy your separate but equal argument by taking my time. Challenge accepted!
I don't have a problem with gay people getting the equivalent of marriage, but just called something else. Why? Because I don't think it's a big deal to just choose a different term instead of being pricks about having it called "marriage." I'm not religious, either, it's just the matter of I think the gay community largely chooses their battles just to be dicks so they can feel special because they chose to be gay.
So, gay people "cho[o]se to be gay". So clearly you choose to be straight. That's neither here nor there, but you brought it up, hotshot.
I don't have a problem with straight people getting the equivalent of marriage, but just called something else. Why? Because I don't think it's a big deal to just choose a different term instead of being pricks about having it called "marriage." I'm not religious, either, it's just the matter of I think the straight community largely chooses their battles just to be dicks so they can feel special because they chose to be straight.
Hilarious!
I think few would have had a problem with gay people getting married if they just called it something other than marriage.
All that had to be done was to create a category word for all of the legal protections, then categorize "marriage," "civil unions" (or whatever they wanted it to be called), etc. under that category. Boom, same legal protections, no problems with anyone.
That is called separate but equal. Again, I realize that you probably don't know a f-ing thing about equal protection under the law, but setting up an entirely separate...but equal!..legal system for different categories of people, have again, been struck down as unconstitutional.
actually, i don't care about the word personally. Like i said, i care that time and resources are wasted on stupid shit like this that could easily otherwise be resolved. You present no valid argument, just personal attacks based on assuming that when i say something i really mean the opposite -- even if i say it multiple times. Is it that you are assuming, or that you are incapable of comprehending the posts i have previously made?
Oh! So, you don't care about the word personally (so let's just call it marriage!) but you care that "time and resources are wasted on stupid shit like this". You care ohhhhhh so very much that you want the government to go through the process of setting up a new legal term of civil unions with all of the resulting, uh...time and resources...to do so, rather than just calling it marriage and ending the entire debate.
You inability to reason is hilarious!
Here's the simple version, for the handicapped posting here:
Nice bit of projection here, champ. After making an argument for separate but equal, and then saying you're against spending time and resources on the subject but calling for government to spend time and resources on the subject to make brand new categories of legal rights, you're going to call us handicapped?
Seriously, you're hilarious.
Gay people should have equal rights and be able to legally be recognized in the same manner (financial and legal protections). That is all the government needs to guarantee everyone. The word "marriage" has such ties to religion that it is obviously a problem.
Wrong. Incorrect.
Marriage as recognized by the state is a secular institution. The rights that gay people want are secular rights. That religion is upset over the use of the word is their problem. If you go and get married by 4,782 different pastors, priests, and preachers, it doesn't make a g-d bit of difference, unless you get a piece of paper issued by a state government. Your reasoning skills are pretty awful, so you probably didn't even know that. I'm not surprised.
All the government needs to do is change from "marriage" to some other word or phrase, then gay people can call themselves married, religious people can call themselves married, the government can call them "a financial contract between two people, which can only exist between you and one other person at a single time" (unless bigamy becomes legal at some point, don't give a fuck about that either -- or do i ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? Muawuhahwhahaha) or some generic bullshit that doesn't conflict with a core element of pretty much every society. Nobody can bitch to the government because they are equal, and people will just refer to themselves as married, civil unions, pussy pounders, dicksuckers, or whatever they want -- and our society's collective money does not get wasted on such a trivial matter as a word.
So, in other words, all we have to do is allow gay people to sign secular contracts the same way we allow straight people to sign secular contracts and societies collective money doesn't get wasted.
But, you also want to waste societies money by establishing separate but equal categories of rights with different terms through the legislature, that will eventually get brought to court, wasting societies money, and then overturned.
You've clearly put a lot of effort into your argument!
there are no layers of complexity. That's like saying a 3-5 step plan is too complex for you to understand. Hooked on phonics. It will work for you.
Anyways, i guess i have to lower the bar for many of you here. Let's try one last time, for the multitude of beyond stupid that can't read:
1. The word "marriage" and its derivatives are removed in any legal sense and replaced with something else
2. Everyone can take it upon themselves to still use the word married if they so choose
So:
Step 1: make a totally terrible argument filled with illogic and contradictions.
Step 2: namecall the people who catch your terrible arguments filled with logic and contradictions.
Step 3: move goalposts and change your argument because you were called out for terrible arguments filled with illogic and contradictions.
Brilliant!
holy fuck! What an incredibly complex thought to process!!! Seriously, though, it is no surprise to me why issues like this become such a big deal to people with how utterly retarded and insane some of you people are. I would think that most of you would be embarrassed by how grossly inept you are, but you seem to congregate and gather to form against basic sentences that you simply are too stupid to be able to read, despite them being broken down multiple times, in multiple ways, for multiple people. It is amazing that some of you are still unable to understand the things that i have written.
Done wasting my time. You guys should be ashamed, seriously.
Shorter this last paragraph:
You guys are dumb because you've destroyed my terrible arguments filled with illogic and contradictions. Blah blah blah, y'all are dummyheads, I'm taking my ball and going home now, because I'm tired of you pointing out how terrible my illogical arguments are.