that is kind of the whole point i got from the movie - that the suit isn't what makes iron man, tony stark is what makes iron man. and i agree, and i think robert downey jr. is what makes tony stark. if they got someone else to play iron man it just wouldn't be the same.
I thought the movie was great. Yes it does not resemble the comics at all and the villains were very powerful. I am tired of seeing Iron Man being all powerful. He really is just a guy in a suit. People should be able to go toe to toe with him especially after the tech as been around for a while. I wish they would have explored the other suits more though. For me it goes 3,1,2 in quality of movie.
IMHO this was better than Dark Knight Rises. Way better characters and action.
The difference here is that I don't believe that any of the actors that have played Batman have owned the role so much. Keaton was OK. So were Kilmer/Clooney. Bale was better than all of them, but he didn't OWN it.
RDJ has taken the Tony Stark character and just made it his. He owns it now. He owns it.
But no one can deny reality. RDJ gets older and they're not going to have a 70-year-old suiting up and doing the action movie, unless Tony Stark moves to a suburb and sits on his chair and take potshots at kids trying to take a shortcut across his yard.
Inevitably, someone will have to take over that role. But I just can't imagine anyone else taking ownership of it like he did, at least not off the top of my head.
The difference here is that I don't believe that any of the actors that have played Batman have owned the role so much. Keaton was OK. So were Kilmer/Clooney. Bale was better than all of them, but he didn't OWN it.
RDJ has taken the Tony Stark character and just made it his. He owns it now. He owns it.
But no one can deny reality. RDJ gets older and they're not going to have a 70-year-old suiting up and doing the action movie, unless Tony Stark moves to a suburb and sits on his chair and take potshots at kids trying to take a shortcut across his yard.
Inevitably, someone will have to take over that role. But I just can't imagine anyone else taking ownership of it like he did, at least not off the top of my head.
I actually liked it the most of the Iron Mans. I liked the humor of 3 and IMO all the villains in the whole series were pretty weak but I liked the humor and Robert Downey Jr. in this one the most.
The difference here is that I don't believe that any of the actors that have played Batman have owned the role so much. Keaton was OK. So were Kilmer/Clooney. Bale was better than all of them, but he didn't OWN it.
RDJ has taken the Tony Stark character and just made it his. He owns it now. He owns it.
But no one can deny reality. RDJ gets older and they're not going to have a 70-year-old suiting up and doing the action movie, unless Tony Stark moves to a suburb and sits on his chair and take potshots at kids trying to take a shortcut across his yard.
Inevitably, someone will have to take over that role. But I just can't imagine anyone else taking ownership of it like he did, at least not off the top of my head.
The only actor to own the role of Batman is...ironically...someone that's never had screentime as Batman. Kevin Conroy voices Batman in all the animated series and video games----and the dude IS Batman.
I actually liked it the most of the Iron Mans. I liked the humor of 3 and IMO all the villains in the whole series were pretty weak but I liked the humor and Robert Downey Jr. in this one the most.
The only actor to own the role of Batman is...ironically...someone that's never had screentime as Batman. Kevin Conroy voices Batman in all the animated series and video games----and the dude IS Batman.
that is kind of the whole point i got from the movie - that the suit isn't what makes iron man, tony stark is what makes iron man. and i agree, and i think robert downey jr. is what makes tony stark. if they got someone else to play iron man it just wouldn't be the same.
That's been the theme since at least the last movie too. In the 2nd movie the Avengers ok'ed "Iron Man" for the team, but not Tony Stark. Military spent 2nd movie trying to get iron man suit buy Tony kept it to himself saying "the suit and I are one".
The only actor to own the role of Batman is...ironically...someone that's never had screentime as Batman. Kevin Conroy voices Batman in all the animated series and video games----and the dude IS Batman.
That's been the theme since at least the last movie too. In the 2nd movie the Avengers ok'ed "Iron Man" for the team, but not Tony Stark. Military spent 2nd movie trying to get iron man suit buy Tony kept it to himself saying "the suit and I are one".
It would have been tough to simulate the 10 rings and like my previous post, would have equaled cheesewhiz > Green Lantern. Just too hard to pull off all those powers in one movie.
Hmm, I don't know The Mandarin's powers too well, but after looking them up, I can certainly understand where you're coming from. Perhaps what they could do is slightly weaken some of his powers or make it so he's a new supervillain who hasn't fully grasped them just yet. That way... he may only end up using half of his rings or something.
that is kind of the whole point i got from the movie - that the suit isn't what makes iron man, tony stark is what makes iron man. and i agree, and i think robert downey jr. is what makes tony stark. if they got someone else to play iron man it just wouldn't be the same.
I don't think any of the Superhero movies have been great at showing the intellect of their heroes. Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Peter Parker, and Reed Richards are some of the smartest people in the Marvel universe. In fact, I think the only person missing that would make this a Top 5 list would be Hank Pym (Ant Man), and we're getting his movie in Phase 3! (I'm actually not sure if Peter Parker is that high... I'm certain someone can come in here and correct me if I'm wrong ) Although, you could argue that Iron Man has been the best of all, because... shit, he created all of those suits! I guess the problem is that when it comes to the heroes overcoming their enemies, they just tend to do it through sheer force rather than outwitting the villains in some way that makes you think, "Wow, that's really smart."
I actually liked it the most of the Iron Mans. I liked the humor of 3 and IMO all the villains in the whole series were pretty weak but I liked the humor and Robert Downey Jr. in this one the most.
Eh, the problem is that these movies aren't comedies. I found the humor enjoyable, but not laugh out loud funny. I think I only chuckled about once. The action was good, but the suspense was terrible.
You knew that Pepper was infused with Extremis, so that fall shouldn't have killed her, and of course... it didn't. Also, thinking about the end of the movie... how the hell did a bullet shell + blast kill him but exploding the Iron Man Mk XLIII didn't?
I'm guessing that since these were all newer suits created after The Avengers (i.e. after Rhodes took War Machine), he specifically made the suits so no one else could take them.
The only actor to own the role of Batman is...ironically...someone that's never had screentime as Batman. Kevin Conroy voices Batman in all the animated series and video games----and the dude IS Batman.
Kid: "What's that?"
Stranger: "An electro-magnet. You should know what that is; you have a bunch of them right here."
Kid: "What does it power?"
*groan*
An electromagnet requires power; it does not generate power unless used entirely differently (not as a magnet). What prompted that question from the kid? Oh, I know: Stupid writers.
It's an electromagnet powered by an arc reactor with excess capacity. Sure, you wouldn't describe a remote-controlled car as "a remote controlled car powered by a battery," but you wouldn't assume that the remote-controlled car was used to power something else when that is not the function of a remote-controlled car.
Also, I know he's not a normal kid, but I have a problem believing he would be the type to be carrying around a personal copy of newspaper and be unaware of the relationship between Iron Man and Tony Stark.
Close, but not quite. If it was working for The President, why did Rhodes have to save him? Clearly, it was being used to carry people and was operated by tele-presence.
Close, but not quite. If it was working for The President, why did Rhodes have to save him? Clearly, it was being used to carry people and was operated by tele-presence.
Close, but not quite. If it was working for The President, why did Rhodes have to save him? Clearly, it was being used to carry people and was operated by tele-presence.
I just assumed that the suit was told to return to base or something like that. I guess that's one of the plot holes that people were talking about. Fortunately, it sounds like I'm good at fillin' them holes with assumptions!
how the human body can seem to take in absolutely no food/energy but produce a ridiculous amount of heat? These fuckers are breaking the laws of physics! To be fair, the concepts behind some of it are actually explained in the comics a lot better.
I always graciously assume that the genetic modification created bio cold-fusion in most sci-fi with that problem (Alien Xenomorph which does not eat after the chest-burster phase but can grow and drool all it wants to, for example), but this doesn't even have to be cold fusion. Fusion gets hot and can create new elements from others. IOW, they were converting air into body parts and flamethrower fuel. I'm still looking for the air pump. That's another thing they have in common with an atomic bomb explosion (fusion + shadows on the wall).
I really didn't like this movie. I wanted to, and I really tried but it just didn't work.
The stuff with AIM worked for me, even the Extremis worked to a point. It was the rest of it that I felt sucked. The wasted big bad Mandarin that could have tied together all the movies (hell the group that put Stark in the cave was somethingsomething Rings.
The whole kid thing was stupid beyond even my belief (which is born from a lifetime of reading comics so it's not like reality and I are that good of friends.) The kid existed only to let RDJ be House-like in his humor. Which can be funny but I felt there was way too much of it.
The ending was really bad, I could handle the "house party" thing. That wasn't bad, but the fact that suddenly we need to have super Pepper save the day was pretty lame. And I really don't get how suddenly Stark and crew are killing the bad guys without a second thought. For a guy that insisted on non lethal stuff he sure seemed to drop that for no real reason.
At the end of it, it had so much potential but just couldn't get past letting RDJ be RDJ enough to tell me a story. Which is really a shame.
I just assumed that the suit was told to return to base or something like that. I guess that's one of the plot holes that people were talking about. Fortunately, it sounds like I'm good at fillin' them holes with assumptions!
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