IM3 sucked.
Probably the worst marvel movie to date, except maybe the punisher and daredevil.
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I take that back, Daredevil was better than IM3.
:::::::::::SPOLIERS::::::::::::::Criticism of movie Mandarin based on how different he was from comic book Mandarin makes me laugh. Exactly 0.0000000000135% of people who saw the move actually read the relevant comic book (on ATOT more like 90%), therefore they don't care about the differences and they will tell their friends how great the movie was and it will make dump trucks full of money. Were they supposed to spend forever explaining crash landed aliens from planet Whothehellcares and their magic rings just to make internet nerds happy?
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...Tony blows up all his suits? WTF? It's all over?
Then at the end Tony gets his arc reactor taken out and he tosses it into the ocean? WTF?
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What are you talking about man? I said I was liking the terrorist Mandarin because he was a compelling villain. I DIDN'T like the fact that they went on and exposed him as an actor and joke. I don't care about his powers or his rings or anything about that, I just hate how they take a really good character and turn him into crap.
I finally saw it.
Everyone complaining about the deviation from the comics is an idiot. It was a fairly fun popcorn flick. The only really annoying thing was the deuce ex machina at the end with all the suits (fuck you about spoilers, it's in the goddamn trailers), when he could have just called the suits to get him an hour before hand.
Other than that major plot hole, it was a great movie. Much better than thor.
For someone that gives people shit about not liking them ruining a potentially awesome villain (The Mandarin) to only prop up a shitty villain (Killian), you then try and act all high and mighty by declaring a plot hole that doesn't exist. You do recall that he specifically mentions that the debris was cleared that was blocking the basement (or whatever he calls it)? The circular door that was where his platform originally was had to open before the "Iron Army" could come out, and that door was blocked.
The mandarin is a lame, cliche comicbook villain that would have translated into an even worse movie villain. Are you actually a Iron Man comicbook fan? I'm a pretty big marvel comics fan, and I don't give a fuck about the mandarin. You have to be a rather pathetic nerd to be pissed about this, especially since Ben Kingsly was pretty funny once we finally meet him.
I'm pretty sure a couple dozen iron man suits could have blasted their way out of the basement in a couple hours, and Tony Stark would never be short sited enough to only have one exit for the suits.
For someone that gives people shit about not liking them ruining a potentially awesome villain (The Mandarin) to only prop up a shitty villain (Killian), you then try and act all high and mighty by declaring a plot hole that doesn't exist. You do recall that he specifically mentions that the debris was cleared that was blocking the basement (or whatever he calls it)? The circular door that was where his platform originally was had to open before the "Iron Army" could come out, and that door was blocked.
I just read comics (DC, Marvel, whatever), but mostly manga. Anyway, I didn't care so much about how they changed The Mandarin. I mentioned it before, but my qualms were more about their original presentation of The Mandarin made you think you might be getting a decent villain in an Iron Man movie for once. Their twist did nothing more than remove that from the cards, and all Marvel had left was a lame villain in Aldrich Killian.
Well, we're trying to debate non-existent mental concepts for a comic book, so we're really just going to toss around a bunch of "I think..." statements all day. If I had to guess, he wasn't able to communicate with the various Iron Man suits until the door was clear. Also, I think it's more like Tony only created one entrance to the room rather than one exit. That's arguably (and logically) the same thing, but I mean more or less why he would do that. The government was adamant in Iron Man 2 about Tony turning over his suit, so he wants to ensure he's the only one that has one. If someone took one... especially someone evil... then it would be a rehash of Iron Man 1 where evil-doers had access to his high-tech weaponry.
I liked the supersoldier concept a lot more than the overdone style of the original stan lee villain and his dumb permutaton in iron man lore. Plus, giving pepper pots powers is pretty great. p
Did they actually make the idea that the debris on-top of opening prevented the iron man suits from coming out explicit? If so, do you remember when?
IM3 sucked.
Probably the worst marvel movie to date, except maybe the punisher and daredevil.
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I take that back, Daredevil was better than IM3.
In order to review Iron Man 3, I'll have to rate previous movies to show where I'm coming from.
Iron Man 1: [9/10] It was the 'dark' (quite accurately) time for super hero movies. They were all cliche as hell, and I was getting tired of the brooding, miserable emos who were crying about their gift with a heavy burden (Batman, Spiderman, etc). Thankfully RDJ came along as Iron Man and blew everyone away with the snarky egotistical attitude. In the big screen world, this was new and refreshing. The movie was wholesome and handled the origin story very well. I was laughing, cheering, and smiling throughout. The movie was funny, witty, and smart. It was without a doubt the best action movie of that year.
Iron Man 2: [7/10] Bloated and contrived. The movie blatantly felt like a lazy money grab. Also I missed the chemistry between RDJ & Terrance Howard. Don Cheadle is a great actor in his own right, but the change felt abrupt and he never settled properly with me as Rhodey in Iron Man. I've watched Iron Man 1 numerous times. I don't even think I saw 2 again outside of the theater.
The Avengers: [6.5/10] This was the biggest cliched pile of crap I've seen on recent memory. Given the wide roster, it couldn't escape from being a 90-minute fan service with each heroes having spotlight moments, then all coming together to defeat the big bad guy. It was predictable, predictable, and predictable. Now I don't mind watching mindless action flicks, but at the end of the day, it just has to entertain me. This movie failed at it.
Iron Man 3: The writers tried to get out of the comic book formula a little. And I thoroughly appreciated them all. It made for a refreshing change since IM2 & Avengers. I haven't felt that word- refreshing since watching Iron Man 1. I'll tell you why:
-Today's audience have a better modern imagination than that of the 90's and 00's. One man in a suit fighting one big villain is getting boring. And Iron Man 3 took a better approach with Mandarin. It was pretty smart for a comic book movie.
-Same goes for Iron Man himself. I really liked how Tony was proving himself without a suit or a partial suit half the time. It wasn't the same crap of punching villains in the suit as seen in IM1, 2, or Avengers. It only got better with different suits and when Pepper had her little moment.
It's a solid movie. I loved the non-cliche dialogue between Tony and the kid. It was full of wit. I can see the purist comic book nerds hating on the movie because of the liberties the movie took. How sad for them.
8.5/10.
- Why did he blow up all his robots at the end? Because they were a "distraction"? That's just stupid. It was only because in the next ironman they want it to be him alone against somebody.
- When he flew in front of an 18 wheeler and the suit was destroyed (he would have been if he was in it at the time, but it was remote), for a guy who's fought aliens and all this other shit that was a newbie mistake
- The movie concentrated on his anxiety for a while, building it, and then it was "cured" by him making some gadgets. Weak[/spoiler]
Was just not a great movie, it was watchable once and not more.
I liked Iron man 2 better and the first one was the best super hero movie to come out in a very damn long time.
In order to review Iron Man 3, I'll have to rate previous movies to show where I'm coming from.
Iron Man 1: [9/10] It was the 'dark' (quite accurately) time for super hero movies. They were all cliche as hell, and I was getting tired of the brooding, miserable emos who were crying about their gift with a heavy burden (Batman, Spiderman, etc). Thankfully RDJ came along as Iron Man and blew everyone away with the snarky egotistical attitude. In the big screen world, this was new and refreshing. The movie was wholesome and handled the origin story very well. I was laughing, cheering, and smiling throughout. The movie was funny, witty, and smart. It was without a doubt the best action movie of that year.
Iron Man 2: [7/10] Bloated and contrived. The movie blatantly felt like a lazy money grab. Also I missed the chemistry between RDJ & Terrance Howard. Don Cheadle is a great actor in his own right, but the change felt abrupt and he never settled properly with me as Rhodey in Iron Man. I've watched Iron Man 1 numerous times. I don't even think I saw 2 again outside of the theater.
The Avengers: [6.5/10] This was the biggest cliched pile of crap I've seen on recent memory. Given the wide roster, it couldn't escape from being a 90-minute fan service with each heroes having spotlight moments, then all coming together to defeat the big bad guy. It was predictable, predictable, and predictable. Now I don't mind watching mindless action flicks, but at the end of the day, it just has to entertain me. This movie failed at it.
Iron Man 3: The writers tried to get out of the comic book formula a little. And I thoroughly appreciated them all. It made for a refreshing change since IM2 & Avengers. I haven't felt that word- refreshing since watching Iron Man 1. I'll tell you why:
-Today's audience have a better modern imagination than that of the 90's and 00's. One man in a suit fighting one big villain is getting boring. And Iron Man 3 took a better approach with Mandarin. It was pretty smart for a comic book movie.
-Same goes for Iron Man himself. I really liked how Tony was proving himself without a suit or a partial suit half the time. It wasn't the same crap of punching villains in the suit as seen in IM1, 2, or Avengers. It only got better with different suits and when Pepper had her little moment.
It's a solid movie. I loved the non-cliche dialogue between Tony and the kid. It was full of wit. I can see the purist comic book nerds hating on the movie because of the liberties the movie took. How sad for them.
8.5/10.