If the number of newegg reviews is any indication, the RX 470 sold as much or more as the 1060 3GB. Do you have any hard numbers on that?Back when the 1060 3GB launched I highly recommended it vs the power hungry competition. And the market turned out to agree with me, given the 1060_3GB's robust sales. It is still the better choice today, but not by as much. By next year you will probably want more. But at this point I believe it is still better to simply tweak your settings so you dont need as much VRAM rather than deal with that extra 50-80 watts the competition's higher memory capacity card forces you to endure.
I agree. It is absurd to say power consumption does not matter. Now granted it is only one factor, and may be outweighed by other factors, but the total disregard of power consumption is ridiculous.I disagree with both of you.
It's fine to ignore climate change and that pollution from power generation reduces lifespans, piling up the bodies of puppies and kittens and beloved grandmas
Power efficiency still means less heat is generated by the GPU, reducing the cooling needs of the PC, reducing the power use and noise generated by the cooling system. I value a quiet PC.
More power doesn't mean more noise it means more power/heat but not more noise. And the power saving in monetary terms is so minimal that by the time my less efficient less cheaper card costs me the difference in buying a more efficient expensive card I'll have already purchased a new card.
It could be that Gears of War 4 is an exception. Maybe it's not optimized well? Wait, Nevermind. It is actually more the norm than an exception these days
But what about compression? I read that Nvidia (and AMD as well?) use memory compression in their video cards. According to what I read Nvidia's compressions made more efficient use of the memory with tighter compression so that 3GB of nvidia memory is actually roughly equivalent to AMD's 4. After all the driver updates on both sides I don't know how it is now though.
Everything else being equal, like case ventilation and cooler used on the video card, less power would indeed mean less noise.
Quality of fans make the difference in noise not power and heat. Many of the reviews I read regarding 1060 vs 480/580 had many of the 480/580 cards being quieter then the 1060.
Back when the 1060 3GB launched I highly recommended it vs the power hungry competition. And the market turned out to agree with me, given the 1060_3GB's robust sales. It is still the better choice today, but not by as much. By next year you will probably want more. But at this point I believe it is still better to simply tweak your settings so you dont need as much VRAM rather than deal with that extra 50-80 watts the competition's higher memory capacity card forces you to endure.
I'm not disagreeing, but like I said, everything else being equal. Having better fans on one card than the other isn't equal. If they are both using the same cooler, more heat means fans need to spin at a higher RPM to dissipate that heat. That's more noise.
I personally have never purchased a GPU based on power consumption. If I have two cards that perform virtually identically, and have virtual identical acoustics, and cost virtually the same. Then, maybe, i'll look at power consumption as a determining factor. But in my 25 or so years of PC gaming, I have never needed to go that far down the tie breaking list. At least not for my gaming PC's.
It was an important factor for my HTPC builds, but even that is not much of a factor (for me) these days as the integrated graphics do what I need them to do for those builds.
Of course 25 years ago the CPU and GPU were fanless and not the space heaters we have today.
I've cared about noise, and therefore about power draw and heat ever since some PSUs, cards, and CPU coolers started getting loud to stop them from cooking themselves. Cards like my Radeon 4870 really annoyed me with their leaf blower coolers. The 6850 was much better.
Perhaps you wear headphones while gaming? Or you use a water cooling setup?
Everything else is NOT the same. RX 470 and especially the RX 570 is a lot more powerful than the 1060 3GB and has more vRam!!!I'm not disagreeing, but like I said, everything else being equal. Having better fans on one card than the other isn't equal. If they are both using the same cooler, more heat means fans need to spin at a higher RPM to dissipate that heat. That's more noise.
Everything else is NOT the same. RX 470 and especially the RX 570 is a lot more powerful than the 1060 3GB and has more vRam!!!
So even if fans and cooling and card PCB and vram and vrm's were all equal and less power meant 5% quieter card, the RX 570 is 10% faster on average and has more memory and is cheaper and is more future proof and 20W is meaningless and doesn't make ANY difference at all !!!!!!!!!
That wasn't the point. kawi6rr tried to claim that power does not translate into heat, then into noise. That is simply not true.
"Rx 570 with a great aftermarket cooler is less noisy than 1060 with cheap cooler" does not contradict this. "I don't care about noise" also does not contradict this.
You just proved what I was saying that more power and heat does not translate into more noise. I never said more power does not translate into more heat.
They use a lot of older games that I feel are important historically, but have no bearing today on what GPU to buy, unless you are looking into playing exclusively older games.This does not look like 10% faster on average to me...
Math, how does it work?
AIB partners really have cooling on lockdown at this point. You just have to get the right custom card. For example, the MSI Gaming X RX 480 is freaking quiet, despite having a 200W power draw. It only hits 73C as well. The Asus DCII 290Xs were also power hungry, but quiet. These days you can have your cake and eat it too, as long as you do the research. That's not to say that low power draw doesn't help keep cards quiet, but it's not mutually exclusive.Of course 25 years ago the CPU and GPU were fanless and not the space heaters we have today.
I've cared about noise, and therefore about power draw and heat ever since some PSUs, cards, and CPU coolers started getting loud to stop them from cooking themselves. Cards like my Radeon 4870 really annoyed me with their leaf blower coolers. The 6850 was much better.
Perhaps you wear headphones while gaming? Or you use a water cooling setup?
As a more extreme example, I shoved a R9 390 Nitro into a $30 microATX case (Rosewill Ranger-M), and the thing never went above 75 degrees or 40% fan speed. It was whisper quiet, too.AIB partners really have cooling on lockdown at this point. You just have to get the right custom card. For example, the MSI Gaming X RX 480 is freaking quiet, despite having a 200W power draw. It only hits 73C as well. The Asus DCII 290Xs were also power hungry, but quiet. These days you can have your cake and eat it too, as long as you do the research. That's not to say that low power draw doesn't help keep cards quiet, but it's not mutually exclusive.
Everything else is NOT the same. RX 470 and especially the RX 570 is a lot more powerful than the 1060 3GB and has more vRam!!!
So even if fans and cooling and card PCB and vram and vrm's were all equal and less power meant 5% quieter card, the RX 570 is 10% faster on average and has more memory and is cheaper and is more future proof and 20W is meaningless and doesn't make ANY difference at all !!!!!!!!!