Is 57C under full load too hot for my Athlon XP 1700+ Tbred-B? *UPDATE - I dropped my CPU temp by 9C with a simple mod!*

[SickBeast]

It seems fairly stable at 2000mhz (160x12.5) at 1.80 volts. Am I at severe risk of burning this CPU out? I would like to have the chip for at least a year.

 

[RyanM]

Depends - Is that CPU Core or CPU Surface? If it's core, I'd say no problem. If that's surface, I'd say knock down the speed 50 MHz or so.

 

[foxkm]

What motherboard is this on? Different Motherboards report Temps differently. Even a Bios change can make a difference.

I had a 1700+ which would max out at 2000mhz @ 1.825 on my A7N8X it would remain about 50c under load, and go down to about 45c idle. I got a newer 1700+ and I have it running 2185mhz @ 1.7v (could go higher). These things are cheap enough, you might invest in getting a newer revision of the chip to get more out of it.

foxkm

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

Nah, you oughta be fine. I've got a friend who's been running a quiet Athlon 1.4 system for a few months now and that's about it's IDLE speed.. it works just fine. As long as it's stable I don't think ya have anything to worry about.

 

[MoFunk]

I have mine at 46c full load. I think you should be fine! They are supposed to handle much hotter than that.

 

[thebestMAX]

Mine (12.5x166) only reports 35 to 42C ! Just think it is the MB.

AMD says max die temps for this chip (T) is 90C but no mention of how measured.

 

[CraigRT]

I'd say you're fine.. alot of the time, mobos read the temperatures too high anyways. My guess is that it's not actually that high. However, even if it was, at those speeds and voltages.. that's probably not too bad!

 

[Killrose]

(1) What motherboard?

(2) Are you using a copper or copper center type HS/Fan?

(3) Is your CPU cooling fan running at least 5k rpm?

(4) Are you using ASIII or another compound?

(5) Have you tried re-installing the HS/Fan unit just to make sure it is on correctly?

57 degrees C is not what i'd expect any T-Bred to run normally at. I'm running mine: 10x190MHz @1.79v and mine runs 45C under extreme load.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Killrose
(1) What motherboard?

(2) Are you using a copper or copper center type HS/Fan?

(3) Is your CPU cooling fan running at least 5k rpm?

(4) Are you using ASIII or another compound?

(5) Have you tried re-installing the HS/Fan unit just to make sure it is on correctly?

57 degrees C is not what i'd expect any T-Bred to run normally at. I'm running mine: 10x190MHz @1.79v and mine runs 45C under extreme load.

1. Abit KX7-333

2. Aluminum stock AMD hsf

3. I think it's 5k rpm, not sure tho

4. ASIII

5. No, but I'm pretty sure it's on there fine. Should I try reinstalling it?

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

5. No, but I'm pretty sure it's on there fine. Should I try reinstalling it?

That's what i'd do. Could make a big difference or none at all.

 

[SickBeast]

I really don't feel like opening my case up tho

I just lowered the voltage to 1.7, and it's running stable at 1920mhz at 53C under full load. Ambient temp is 28C.

 

[MadTom]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
1. Abit KX7-333

Abit is known for showing higher temperatures (5-10 C), so you shouldn't worry. You could replace your HSF, too, since it is an AL one.

 

[dnycompbuilder]

yeah btw dont look at the rpm of the fan, look at the cfm, thats going to tell you how much airflow your cpu is getting. My 92mm fan only spins at 5000 rpm, but it puts out 119 cfm of airflow which produces a temp of 35c max under prime95 with my xp2000+ tb @ 1.897 voltage of 1.84

 

[Tuff]

I have said this many many times...Thermo Sensors are NOT accurate.

If its working for you ..its fine

Tuff

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I really don't feel like opening my case up tho

I just lowered the voltage to 1.7, and it's running stable at 1920mhz at 53C under full load. Ambient temp is 28C.

I bet you would be in the mid-high 40's with a decent copper cored cooler. Your aluminum heatsink is just not up to the job. But you are probably ok till summer.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Killrose

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I really don't feel like opening my case up tho

I just lowered the voltage to 1.7, and it's running stable at 1920mhz at 53C under full load. Ambient temp is 28C.

I bet you would be in the mid-high 40's with a decent copper cored cooler. Your aluminum heatsink is just not up to the job. But you are probably ok till summer.

Yeah, but at $70CDN, an SLK-800 costs as much as a new CPU!! The SK-7 is a little better at $55, and the store is doing a 10% off sale, so I might just go for it.

I did the math last night, and even if I can run the chip at 2300mhz (unlikely), that will only be ~20% faster than what I'm running it at now. By adding the cost of new cooling, I'm increasing the overall price of my CPU by at least 65%. Not only that, but my next CPU will most likely be a hammer, and they are using a new socket format, and the SK-7/SLK-800A would become useless. Would I be able to use an SLK-800U with a hammer CPU? Or a P4?

 

[rommelrommel]

I assume you're talking about bigfootcomputers.com. The SK-6+ is a great deal at $30 CAD with a fan and is nearly as good as the SK-7.

 

[Killrose]

Yes a good fan unit is nearly as much as the processor and you have to factor that in. I'd say just go ahead and run it at the setting you are at now and enjoy it.

 

[SickBeast]

Hey killrose you were right! I took out the HSF, and it was clogged with dust. Then I did a duct-mod...I'll post pics of it later. I basically made a cardboard "duct" to channel air straight from one of the 120mm fans on the side of my case right onto the HSF. My CPU is now running happily at 2000mhz at 2.75 volts at only 45C under full load!! Thanks very much for your help

 

[SickBeast]

Ok I did the mod (as stated earlier), here are some pics of what I did:

PIC 1
PIC 2
PIC 3

My CPU was running at 1920mhz at 1.75 volts at 54C under full load before the mod.

After the mod, my CPU is running at 2000mhz at 1.75 volts at 45C under full load.

For some reason I can't get the CPU to run stable at 2066mhz and above. I raised the voltage to 1.825 and I'm scared to take it any higher than that. I went to that website that has the script to tell you about your CPU, and it said mine was "downgraded from a 2700+". I take it that should mean my CPU was supposed to be able to run at 2133mhz? I have a feeling that script is bogus.

Script

Check it out, I don't know if it's correct tho.

 

[Killrose]

I beleive the "scrypt" info means your processor was downgraded from a 2700+ because it could not do it at normal spec., so at least you should be able to get close to 2700+ with voltage tweaks.? Not totally sure.

 

[Shimmishim]

wow nice clutter of cables... i still think mine is messier than yours and i have rounded cables and SATA cables as well

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
wow nice clutter of cables... i still think mine is messier than yours and i have rounded cables and SATA cables as well

yeah it's pretty messy in there. i think i bypassed the mess with the duct mod tho

 

[lchen66666]

My XP2100 TBred B stepping dropped from 50C to 42C(full loaded) after I replaced
AMD stock heatsink with SLK-800(low noise 3000RPM fan).

My XP2100 is running very stable at 180X12=2.17GHZ with 1.70VCore.
It also could run stable at 180X12.5 with 1.80 Vcore. So I set it
to run at 180X12. Idle is 37-38C, fully loaded is 42-43C.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: lchen66666
My XP2100 TBred B stepping dropped from 50C to 42C(full loaded) after I replaced
AMD stock heatsink with SLK-800(low noise 3000RPM fan).

My XP2100 is running very stable at 180X12=2.17GHZ with 1.70VCore.
It also could run stable at 180X12.5 with 1.80 Vcore. So I set it
to run at 180X12. Idle is 37-38C, fully loaded is 42-43C.

How high were you able to clock the CPU at when you were using the AMD stock heatsink?