Is AION the next WOW??

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: KMFJD

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: KMFJD
There's a reason Aoc and War stunk, they where half completed games that where rushed out the door. Is Aion perfect? fuck no the gold spamming and the retarded bots running rampant , hardly any live in game support to boot these assholes. I saw someone stated go play Champions Online? that game is great for a month, lot of fun, no end game at all.

champion's has only been out for about a month??? so good job on the blank statement.

Yes it's only been out for a month, and it was boring after the new mmo feel got old....i liked it a lot , lots of innovative ideas, but for me it has 0 long term playability , it got old very quickly, maybe it was all the overpowered builds? maybe it was the constant patching/nerfs i don't know, but the more i played the more i lost interest.

yeah im starting to feel taht way. im at lvl 26 and wondering where all the quests are for my level...i always get quests that are meant for lvl
27-29, i wanted to try fallen earth. But i hear not so great things there. i guess ill focus on some Single player games i have. Painkiller and its offspring are calling me to get ready for PK:resurrection. i will make it to lvl cap one day. but that day is not today

 

[Reckoner]

Maybe I'm just burned out of MMOs, but Aion is way too much of a grind for me. It reminds me of the grind in DAoC when it first came out; which was painful in it's own right. It would be one thing if the leveling experience was immersive, rather than a snoozefest. Another issue is that there aren't enough quests per level. At level 22, I had to grind mobs for half the level since there were so few quests to obtain. The worst is when you finish a quest and you barely see the xp bar move since the XP reward is so little. Sitting in a spot and repeatedly killing a mob for hours isn't fun for me. WoW spoiled me I guess - engaging content, a plethora of quests to choose from, and an immersive environment to boot. Leveling a couple characters to 80 in wow was enjoyable to me. In aion all I want to do is log out from sheer boredom.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

A bunch of people at work all together jumped onto Aion. The people that weren't into MMOs before were done with it a couple of weeks after it came out and the more serious players are losing interest already. One of them described it as a "WoW tickler."

 

[xCxStylex]

I completely agree with this.

The title of the thread is stupid, it's a troll like question that's asked in game allll the time. With the definition of "WOW" being "a mmo with massive numbers of subscribers/players that appeals to al," hell no it's not.l

While I'm a pretty hardcore player who enjoys the game as it is right now, it's never going to even be close to the popularity of WoW.

(39.5 chanter on Vaziel)

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
As long as Aion continues to have massive money sinks at every turn, it will lose most casual players. I have no doubt that when people start reaching the level cap, botting and gold-buying will basically be required to be competitive.

 

[xCxStylex]

Too bad they didn't take the time to even have the foggiest clue what they were getting into before they wasted their money.

Korean/Asian MMOs are grindfests. This game is 95% grinding, grind grind grind kill shit (there are less than 10 different types of monsters, they just look different) over and over.

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
A bunch of people at work all together jumped onto Aion. The people that weren't into MMOs before were done with it a couple of weeks after it came out and the more serious players are losing interest already. One of them described it as a "WoW tickler."

 

[pathos]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Perhaps, but it is out there in large quantities. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive, but one does get tired of constantly seeing "Next Generic Random MMO is the WOW Killer!" every time another generic, random MMO hits the market.

Most everyone who actually replied to the topic, though, said "no, it will never have the population that wow has". And thats the people who do AND do not like the game. I don't know of many people who realistically think there will be another game that has the subsciber base of WoW. Love it or hate it, the game has alot of freaking people who play/played it.

What Aion is, however, is a fairly competent pvp oriented mmo, that was pretty polished at launch. Of course it's polished though, since the game has been launched in Korea for a year (give or take).

It also had a pretty successful launch, as far as subsciber base goes, if you have realistic expectations.

Now, will the game be a ghost town a year from now? I wouldn't even want to guess. But, as much as I've seen War, Vanguard, and AoC thrown around in this thread, Aion does have 1 thing that does set it apart from those titles, which I've already mentioned once.

A pretty stable launch.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: pathos

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Perhaps, but it is out there in large quantities. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive, but one does get tired of constantly seeing "Next Generic Random MMO is the WOW Killer!" every time another generic, random MMO hits the market.

Most everyone who actually replied to the topic, though, said "no, it will never have the population that wow has". And thats the people who do AND do not like the game. I don't know of many people who realistically think there will be another game that has the subsciber base of WoW. Love it or hate it, the game has alot of freaking people who play/played it.

What Aion is, however, is a fairly competent pvp oriented mmo, that was pretty polished at launch. Of course it's polished though, since the game has been launched in Korea for a year (give or take).

It also had a pretty successful launch, as far as subsciber base goes, if you have realistic expectations.

Now, will the game be a ghost town a year from now? I wouldn't even want to guess. But, as much as I've seen War, Vanguard, and AoC thrown around in this thread, Aion does have 1 thing that does set it apart from those titles, which I've already mentioned once.

A pretty stable launch.

Weren't the servers notoriously unstable and full for the first week, and players had to set up spam shops so that they could stay logged in?

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: pathos

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Perhaps, but it is out there in large quantities. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive, but one does get tired of constantly seeing "Next Generic Random MMO is the WOW Killer!" every time another generic, random MMO hits the market.

Most everyone who actually replied to the topic, though, said "no, it will never have the population that wow has". And thats the people who do AND do not like the game. I don't know of many people who realistically think there will be another game that has the subsciber base of WoW. Love it or hate it, the game has alot of freaking people who play/played it.

What Aion is, however, is a fairly competent pvp oriented mmo, that was pretty polished at launch. Of course it's polished though, since the game has been launched in Korea for a year (give or take).

It also had a pretty successful launch, as far as subsciber base goes, if you have realistic expectations.

Now, will the game be a ghost town a year from now? I wouldn't even want to guess. But, as much as I've seen War, Vanguard, and AoC thrown around in this thread, Aion does have 1 thing that does set it apart from those titles, which I've already mentioned once.

A pretty stable launch.

3 hours waits isnt stable?

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Have a friend who is playing this game. Well more like botting it right now. Total grind fest. His bot has been running 24/7 for like 2 weeks and he is only lvl 30.

I think your friend should uninstall and never play another MMO, because he sucks at it even when he isn't actually playing.

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Aion will never be WoW...why the Op even asked... Aion is a korean based grind MMO...

Damn those Koreans for inventing grinding. Why, I can remember gangs of Korean consultants parking their Hyundais outside the Verant offices in 1997. I would have done something then, but who knew where it would all lead?

Why is everything so far apart. the districts in te elsyo's town is huge...

It's because you're playing a Korean grind MMO, and Korea, being a massively huge country, inspires massively huge grindy games. You should wait for the next French MMO, Le Sacre Luminaire, in which the NPCs will just come out of your XBox and hand you stuff on the couch. Of course, the stuff will all be covered in creamy sauces, but you can't have everything.

To the OP: Aion will definitely never be the next WoW, but I suppose the people who like it appreciate that fact. The game is just a little bit harder than WoW was at release, but overall the PvE is still very much easy-mode. The graphics and music are beautiful. The soundscape and voice acting is ridiculously bad in many places. There is one GM for every 1,000,000 players, and the place has a wild west atmosphere about it: lots of bots (see above) and gold sellers.

Overall if you like an old school RPG then you'll probably find this small and easy, but fun. If you think WoW is hard you probably won't like it at all.

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: pathos

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Perhaps, but it is out there in large quantities. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive, but one does get tired of constantly seeing "Next Generic Random MMO is the WOW Killer!" every time another generic, random MMO hits the market.

Most everyone who actually replied to the topic, though, said "no, it will never have the population that wow has". And thats the people who do AND do not like the game. I don't know of many people who realistically think there will be another game that has the subsciber base of WoW. Love it or hate it, the game has alot of freaking people who play/played it.

What Aion is, however, is a fairly competent pvp oriented mmo, that was pretty polished at launch. Of course it's polished though, since the game has been launched in Korea for a year (give or take).

It also had a pretty successful launch, as far as subsciber base goes, if you have realistic expectations.

Now, will the game be a ghost town a year from now? I wouldn't even want to guess. But, as much as I've seen War, Vanguard, and AoC thrown around in this thread, Aion does have 1 thing that does set it apart from those titles, which I've already mentioned once.

A pretty stable launch.

Weren't the servers notoriously unstable and full for the first week, and players had to set up spam shops so that they could stay logged in?

People set up shops to avoid the queue times, it had nothing to do with stability. As a result queue times got longer, more people set up shops etc. They introduced a time limit of 30 min to the shops very quickly, and that solved the queue problem. My server is almost always high population now and I haven't gotten in a queue for login for weeks.

 

[BrownShoes]

So how is the end game in Aion? How is the PVP?

 

[KIAman]

I like Aion so far, and I expected not to like it when I started playing. PvP is a blast so far. A good organized 6 can easily wipe unorganized 12.

Already, my coworkers and I are having moments in the game. Like one time we were grinding our Aether in Morheim and a rift opened right next to town. We jumped in and proceeded to slaughter 15 Elyos before we ran for it. Most were completely unsuspecting PvP action so close to their city and stood there in shock while we were blasting away.

Another funny moment was when a high level gladiator rifted through and we had almost the entire population chasing him for a good 15 minutes before he finally went down.

The best moment was when we all reached lvl 19 and got the SPY quest that takes you to the other side. We were all in such a hurry that we went through just 1 at a time and slowly got melted by the Elyos meat grinder waiting for dumbasses like us.

 

[9mak9]

Star Wars Old Republic is probably the only game now that can threaten WoW. A majority of the games that are made dont have a following and people just jump into. Warcraft had 5 very successful games and had a large following that helped fuel WoW. Other games that might have had large followings either were bad games or didn't have the quality that blizzard brought to the table.

Star Wars is backed by Bioware which from what I have experienced makes the best games. SW is also a much larger universe and has a larger following then Warcraft so it would be a failure if it didn't at least make it close to WoW standards.

 

[Saga]

The only realistic difference between AION and WoW is that WoW attempts to cleverly hide it's grinds and timesinks whereis AION flaunts them at you like a pair of 36DD's in a v-neck.

I'd prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to the game being outright vs. the one attempting to insult my intelligence.

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Just like LotRO was the next WOW...just like Vanguard was the next WOW...just like Conan was the next WOW...just like WAR was the next WOW...

Oh wait...:laugh:

In six months, nobody outside of Korea will be talking about Aion.

lol a bunch of games i never heard of.

 

[Saga]

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Just like LotRO was the next WOW...just like Vanguard was the next WOW...just like Conan was the next WOW...just like WAR was the next WOW...

Oh wait...:laugh:

In six months, nobody outside of Korea will be talking about Aion.

lol a bunch of games i never heard of.

The unfortunate result of WoWtards inability to osmos any information outside their fanboy bubble.

 

[Punter]

Not the next WoW. It may remain fairly popular though.

This morning I chased an enemy Chanter off the side of a mountain and it was funny/cool as we had a hot pursuit glide way-way down to the valley below. A unique gaming experience which has made me hungry for more.

 

[Sylvanas]

It's not even close to WoW on so many levels. It's already been out in korea for a year so it'll hang around for a while and probably won't go the way of AOC, but that's it. The only thing that could even come close to Blizzard and WoW is Bioware's SW: TOR as Bioware are a hugely successful company at making RPGs and have the expertise to make something near the scale of Blizzard. But it's not even in BETA yet so we will have to wait and see.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Just like LotRO was the next WOW...just like Vanguard was the next WOW...just like Conan was the next WOW...just like WAR was the next WOW...

Oh wait...:laugh:

In six months, nobody outside of Korea will be talking about Aion.

lol a bunch of games i never heard of.

The unfortunate result of WoWtards inability to osmos any information outside their fanboy bubble.

You do realize that Osmos is a game and not a word, right?

 

[CurseTheSky]

Having played Ultima Online (very briefly), Asheron's Call (4-5 years), Asheron's Call 2 (1-2 months), World of Warcraft (3-4 years), Lord of the Rings Online (1-2 months), Everquest 2 (1-2 weeks), Warhammer: Age of Reckoning (1 month), Age of Conan (1-2 weeks), and now Aion for several weeks, I can say that it's a good game, but far from perfect (in my mind).

The launch was VERY smooth compared to many games (2-3 hour waits are nothing compared to days or weeks with servers down due to various overloads, hardware problems, and bugs), and quests and tutorials are pretty straight forward and intuitive. The UI isn't bad, and combat could be far worse. My only major complaints are the lack of immersion (I don't feel compelled to stay up another hour just to get a bit further or see what's deep inside that cave over there) and the horrible gibberish (or Korean?) characters say when casting spells and whatnot.

While I will agree that the game looks like a grind fest, it doesn't feel any worse to me than WoW is now. In the early days of WoW, everyone seemed focused on doing something fun. These days, everyone seems focused on getting to the "end game" as quickly as possible and getting decked out in the best items (or achievements, or mounts, or pets, etc.) they can. Grind mobs and quests until 80 (I considered doing quests grinding once you've already done the same one more than twice), then grind rep / dungeons / crafting / etc. to get geared for raiding. THEN grind raid instances for better gear. Then grind MORE raid instances for even better gear. And it continues from there. Ugh. WoW started to bore me right after I hit 60 and got my fill of Scholo, Strath, DM, UBRS, and later MC, BWL, ZG, and AQ. When BC came out, it was fun for a little while, but it quickly took a turn for the worse when I realized it would just be another gear grind-fest at 70. WotLK is what finally did it in for me when I realized Blizzard has no intentions of changing the mechanics of the end game, and everyone else seems to enjoy it.

Coming from Asheron's Call and the early days of WoW where people just did stuff because it's fun (leveling up and getting gear was just a pleasant side effect), I think the problem with most MMOs today is the fact that everyone thinks the goal is to get to the highest level and have the best equipment, and not to enjoy every second of play time. Why play a game, and especially pay for it, if you're not going to actually enjoy playing? If I felt like joining something where someone dictated where I had to be and what I was going to do between certain hours, I'd go joined the armed forces.

Edit: I have no intentions of insulting the armed forces or comparing their duties to a video game, it's simply a statement.

 

[MraK]

well to those those commented on the title of this thread, the meaning behind "Is AION the next WOW" is that I'm not saying Aion will beat WOW as the new MMO King nor am I stating that I love AION more that I do wow, all I'm saying is since there were some past year MMOs that didnt really fit the bill, would AION be enough to prove that it could stand closely up to WOW, not to say now, but in the next months to come?

Its just one thing that I really love about this game character creation system, reminds me alot like "The Sims 3". ex: you and your friends could make characters that are somewhat small and stout and have them with beards and for a "Dwarven Legion" or with the Asmodians, create a group that has oversized muscular character that resemble an "Orc Legion" since I had the chance to see that in some of the servers. Basically its saying that you could make any kind of character you want in terms of Looks.

And when it comes to looks, you could even still change the character's look anytime you want as well as the armor and weapons with regards to color and shape, which to me is really interesting.

I could understand with the whole grindfest, but I could hack it since I'm a "Lineage II" vet myself. For me the grindfest in Aion is tolerable, its just knowing that it took all your effort, time, and sweat to get to the top level, people respect you for that and when I was in Lineage II back in the day having to achieve that degree of a task is very rewarding. I guess there will always be some people who cant manage to grind to that point, I guess I'm use to it

 

[pathos]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: pathos

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Perhaps, but it is out there in large quantities. Maybe I was a bit too aggressive, but one does get tired of constantly seeing "Next Generic Random MMO is the WOW Killer!" every time another generic, random MMO hits the market.

Most everyone who actually replied to the topic, though, said "no, it will never have the population that wow has". And thats the people who do AND do not like the game. I don't know of many people who realistically think there will be another game that has the subsciber base of WoW. Love it or hate it, the game has alot of freaking people who play/played it.

What Aion is, however, is a fairly competent pvp oriented mmo, that was pretty polished at launch. Of course it's polished though, since the game has been launched in Korea for a year (give or take).

It also had a pretty successful launch, as far as subsciber base goes, if you have realistic expectations.

Now, will the game be a ghost town a year from now? I wouldn't even want to guess. But, as much as I've seen War, Vanguard, and AoC thrown around in this thread, Aion does have 1 thing that does set it apart from those titles, which I've already mentioned once.

A pretty stable launch.

Weren't the servers notoriously unstable and full for the first week, and players had to set up spam shops so that they could stay logged in?

People set up shops to avoid the queue times, it had nothing to do with stability. As a result queue times got longer, more people set up shops etc. They introduced a time limit of 30 min to the shops very quickly, and that solved the queue problem. My server is almost always high population now and I haven't gotten in a queue for login for weeks.

Que times also depended on the server. The east servers got filled quickly, and the que's were bad for a bit, but, as mentioned, got cleared up fairly quickly.

The west servers had much less population on them. I think the biggest que I had on the west server I play on was maybe 5 minutes. Probably less.

As far as stability is concerned, I really don't know what you're talking about. Neither server I play on had any stability issues. I think 1 of them went down 1 time, for 5 minutes or so.

I don't really keep up with the official forums though. Perhaps one or more of the other servers was having trouble.

So no, I wouldn't change my stance on that

 

[ZetaEpyon]

God, I hope it's not the next WoW. I don't want the community that comes along with that. Thankfully, it seems like a lot of those people have given up after their initial free month, and gone back to whatever they were playing before.

Also, I just have to wonder wtf game people are playing when they refer to Aion as a grindfest. I just leveled my assassin from 32-33 in less than a day, just by doing quests, and solo. Yeah, sure there's the "hidden" grind of the "Kill X number of monsters" quests and such, but what the hell man. Through 33, I have never once had to just go out and grind out the rest of a level because I didn't have any quests.

Coming from FFXI, it just makes me laugh.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
God, I hope it's not the next WoW. I don't want the community that comes along with that. Thankfully, it seems like a lot of those people have given up after their initial free month, and gone back to whatever they were playing before.

Also, I just have to wonder wtf game people are playing when they refer to Aion as a grindfest. I just leveled my assassin from 32-33 in less than a day, just by doing quests, and solo. Yeah, sure there's the "hidden" grind of the "Kill X number of monsters" quests and such, but what the hell man. Through 33, I have never once had to just go out and grind out the rest of a level because I didn't have any quests.

Coming from FFXI, it just makes me laugh.

Grindy shit:
Coin Quests
Repeatable Quests
Resource node skill up speed, especially once you hit 250+
Krall HQ Molars
Lephartist Gold
PVP AP costs
Quest in Heiron to get 50 of some item.

Just off the top of my head.....

 

[KIAman]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
God, I hope it's not the next WoW. I don't want the community that comes along with that. Thankfully, it seems like a lot of those people have given up after their initial free month, and gone back to whatever they were playing before.

Also, I just have to wonder wtf game people are playing when they refer to Aion as a grindfest. I just leveled my assassin from 32-33 in less than a day, just by doing quests, and solo. Yeah, sure there's the "hidden" grind of the "Kill X number of monsters" quests and such, but what the hell man. Through 33, I have never once had to just go out and grind out the rest of a level because I didn't have any quests.

Coming from FFXI, it just makes me laugh.

Grindy shit:
Coin Quests
Repeatable Quests
Resource node skill up speed, especially once you hit 250+
Krall HQ Molars
Lephartist Gold
PVP AP costs
Quest in Heiron to get 50 of some item.

Just off the top of my head.....

Coin Quests - Lame, useless grind
Repeatable Quests - Lame useless grind
Resource node skill up speed - This makes money
Krall HQ Molars - Gives godly items
Lephartist Gold - ^
PVP AP costs - Godly items
Quest in Heiron to get 50 of some item. - Godly item

So other than the stupid coin quest and repeatable quests, the rest are to "earn" some really powerful item which nobody should be simply handed (or purchased).

I find the grind is just right depending on what you want to do.