is air cooling out of the picture for the 5960x?

[stag3]

since intel recommends water cooling, will the noctua nh-d15 not suffice @ this point? (guessing no)
and if so, is the corsair h110 the one to get right now?

i'm leaning towards the corsair air 540 case, and it looks like the h110 does fit

 

[alcoholbob]

I get comparable temps between a noctua d15 and a corsair h110 on a 5820k at 4.6. The only difference is most air coolers of comparable performance block the first pcie slot of the reference x99 board (and also limit you on ram height) which is why CLCs are recommended.

 

[DigDog]

what he said ^

 

[stag3]

ah ok, i may just stick with the d15 then, thanks!

 

[Headfoot]

If you get a new one, don't get the h110. The h110 is old now. They have a newer model thats hardly more money but its a better performer, called the H110i GT. It uses 140mm fans so you'd need that to fit of course.

This article should help answer your question.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h110i_gt_review,11.html

Be aware though that the 4790k uses a lot less power and makes a lot less heat than the 5960x. You can see by comparing the Baseline to the Overclocked result that the water cooled solutions start to pull away as you increase thermal load. Extrapolating, the H110i GT should pull yet further ahead on a 5960x. Note this improved performance is at exactly the same sound level as the d15 as well.

If you're going to spend $1000 on a CPU I dont think it's much of a burden to get the best AIO water cooler for it. Those 5960x's are supposedly pretty dependent on good cooling to get a good overclock (so that you don't lose much frequency for going up to 8 cores). I put one of these with an additional 2 fans push-pull style on a friends 5820k and the temperatures were incredibly good. I'm not sure how much more you get by adding 2 more fans though.

All in all the d15 is still a very competent competitor and it would work great if you aren't overclocking, and would work for a moderate overclock as well.

 

[stag3]

sorry, yea i was reading and since the H110 had the largest radiator, figured that was the best, apparently the H105 is the newest, also checking out the nzxt kraken x61 now.

i think they said an avg of 3-4 degrees less with push and pull from the reviews. i'll stick with 2 in a push configuration.

 

[YBS1]

It's pretty obvious the D15 is a very good air cooler and will suit you well depending upon what kind of overclock you are attempting to pull. I'm really surprised though more people aren't recommending (not in this thread, in general) the Swiftech AIO units. If you look through the data that has been posted on the various threads you can extrapolate the Swiftech is a fan switch away from being among the quietest and the outright best performer among the available options. As it sits stock, it's is 1db louder than the D15 and outperforms it by 2-3 degrees (that was on a 4770K, gap would likely widen with a 6-8 core cpu). The Swiftech PWM fans included are very quiet, but are not particularly good as compared to something like the EK Varder F4-120ER for air flow at a similar noise level. Make that swap and it would likely outperform all the remaining competitors.

 

[Headfoot]

sorry, yea i was reading and since the H110 had the largest radiator, figured that was the best, apparently the H105 is the newest, also checking out the nzxt kraken x61 now.

i think they said an avg of 3-4 degrees less with push and pull from the reviews. i'll stick with 2 in a push configuration.

the H110i GT is the newest IIRC (at least in the 280mm class). Check that review I posted for comparisons.

 

[Headfoot]

It's pretty obvious the D15 is a very good air cooler and will suit you well depending upon what kind of overclock you are attempting to pull. I'm really surprised though more people aren't recommending (not in this thread, in general) the Swiftech AIO units. If you look through the data that has been posted on the various threads you can extrapolate the Swiftech is a fan switch away from being among the quietest and the outright best performer among the available options. As it sits stock, it's is 1db louder than the D15 and outperforms it by 2-3 degrees (that was on a 4770K, gap would likely widen with a 6-8 core cpu). The Swiftech PWM fans included are very quiet, but are not particularly good as compared to something like the EK Varder F4-120ER for air flow at a similar noise level. Make that swap and it would likely outperform all the remaining competitors.

That thing is pretty sweet if your case allows for it. The problem is that a lot of cases won't have enough clearance for the large protrusion where the hardware comes up and the tubes leave the radiator. I know that's why I passed on it for a previous build, I could just barely fit one of the smaller AIO rads but not the Swiftech premade custom h220/240x

 

[stag3]

also the swiftech requires fluid top offs after awhile it looks like

 

[stag3]

the H110i GT is the newest IIRC (at least in the 280mm class). Check that review I posted for comparisons.

read it, thanks

 

[guskline]

The 5960x is powerful but at 8 core;16 threads it generates some heat when OC'd. Do youself a favor, buy the best AIO water cooler or better yet custom water cool.

 

[stag3]

I dont trust myself to piece together a custom so thats why im looking at aio units. So far im still leaning towards the kraken x61

 

[rchunter]

I dont trust myself to piece together a custom so thats why im looking at aio units. So far im still leaning towards the kraken x61

They are good coolers. I've got 3 of them. 1 still in the box waiting for my next build. Debating wether I want to wait for Skylake-E or not.... decisions decisions....

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I took the design concept of an AIO liquid cooling setup and built my own. It was very easy to piece together. The only thing that took time was designing the loop. I think the biggest reason for my temps is the CPU block. I'm cooling a 6 core W3690. Just this afternoon I ran it at 4.6GHz @ 1.386v Passed IBT on 'High' memory use. Hottest core was 70*c in 80*f ambient temps.

Leak test:

Installed Leak test:

 

[ClockHound]

I took the design concept of an AIO liquid cooling setup and built my own. It was very easy to piece together. The only thing that took time was designing the loop. I think the biggest reason for my temps is the CPU block. I'm cooling a 6 core W3690. Just this afternoon I ran it at 4.6GHz @ 1.386v Passed IBT on 'High' memory use. Hottest core was 70*c in 80*f ambient temps.

Leak test:

Interesting. I use a similar leak test method with my big air coolers:

:biggrin:

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Interesting. What is this Big Air you talk about?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Just read what might be BS. Looks like an average of 7% increase over Devils Canyon, Haswell

 

[IEC]

I took the design concept of an AIO liquid cooling setup and built my own. It was very easy to piece together. The only thing that took time was designing the loop. I think the biggest reason for my temps is the CPU block. I'm cooling a 6 core W3690. Just this afternoon I ran it at 4.6GHz @ 1.386v Passed IBT on 'High' memory use. Hottest core was 70*c in 80*f ambient temps.

Leak test:

Installed Leak test:

That's pretty great. Swiftech MCR-320 w/integrated pump? What kind of tubing/fittings did you use?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

That's pretty great. Swiftech MCR-320 w/integrated pump? What kind of tubing/fittings did you use?

Thanks

Yes. The MCR320 Drive Rev3 integrated pump and reservoir. Tygon 1/2" ID 5/8" OD tubing, Bitspower Carbon Black 1/2" ID 5/8" OD Compression fittings. The Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 is a beast. Super heavy compared to my old EK Supreme LT

 

[Headfoot]

I was able to find this review comparing h110i GT vs kraken x61. It looks like performance wise they are basically identical.

This reviewer went on to say that he thought the noise pitch was quieter on the h110i GT. However, I can't seem to find if he actually measured it or not. It looks like he didn't actually measure the dB's. He mentions noise on page 11.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_h110i_gt_vs_nzxt_kraken_x61_review,15.html

It seems like the two are basically equivalent. x61 is a little cheaper and probably a little louder, h110i GT a little more expensive and a little quieter. Same performance. You couldn't really go wrong with either

 

[stag3]

yea im debating between those 2, will need to make a decision soon haha

also for the 5960x when applying thermal compound, would you guys recommend the X, line or dot method? i went line on my i7 965 back in the day, but it appears the X method may work best for the 5960x.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

^ The purpose of paste is to fill in the gaps that aren't making contact between the two materials. It doesn't matter what method is used as long as there is an adequate layer that fills in the gaps, so just make sure there is enough that will fill any gaps.