ahahahaha ok whatever you say
edit: You mean they liked those benchmarks better ???
You cannot post an article that you have written.
That's is self promotion.
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No. And the only reason why they weren't posted in the blog is because they put Intel products in a good light, I guess the readers wouldn't like them. :whiste:
So what you're saying is, vendors should deliver a weaker CPU, and deliver a stronger GPU, even though most people do not want or need a stronger GPU.
That's what AMD said too... look where that got them.
If it wasnt because you are promoting the site you also write for with your own benchmark numbers, then the numbers you link could have had credibility.
Because it's a niche product. Surely we know of economies of scale right?That s only a question of market perception, people dont know what a GPU is and AMD made the mistake to not take account of the public cluelessness.
But if GPU perf was unworthy why would Intel sell their Iris pro equipped CPUs so much more than the HD4XXX equipped ones ?
After all a few $ more would be enough if GPU didnt matter.
Absolutely.
The vast majority of Desktop and Laptops sold globally are without a dGPU.
ps: $50 more could be almost 50% and you also lose CPU performance going to Pentium.
Because it's a niche product. Surely we know of economies of scale right?
2 pass encoding is for n00bs.
And how many of these cares in any way about faster IGP? I think the sales numbers gave you that answer. CPU performance before IGP.
Given the cost it s indeed a niche product for Intel but for AMD it s a mass market product since they have a less costly and better performing tech in this matter.
So in summary:
The AMD APU is better than the core i3 because of it's vastly superior GPU.
Ignoring the AMD APU's overall power consumption or it's anemic CPU performance.
I guess I'll just be happy with my intel CPU and it's terrible GPU performance. Really wish right now I had the nice hum of Kabini's fan to put me to sleep right now instead of this stupid J1900 being utterly silent.
CPU perf is largely on par with i3 , it s not only the GPU.
You should look at the graphs above that show that if AMD perf/Watt is not good then the i3 is just awfull, enough of thoses urban legends based flawed arguments, numbers please, as is doing Aten Ra, numbers, not hollow sentences.
Then be happy with your terrible GPU and CPU that wont cut it, a Kabini is totaly silent, i have one, do you have one as well since you re branding it noisy?
No, but i guess that you have to end your post like you started it, that is, with yet another urban legend or rather plain deffamation since you dont own the product...
AMD Perf/Watt graphs posted above were not relevant to my tasks. I only do web browsing/word on my J1900. There actually was only 2-5 graphs relevant to me in that whole review. The rest had to do with gaming, encoding, etc. ... In the 2 graphs that were relevant to me, intel was faster and consumed less power for the whole system.
Kabini has a fan, my J1900 doesn't.
But yes, you're right, I should have purchased Kabini, it was clearly the better choice despite not fitting my usage scenario. I really could have utillized that GPU performance for the massive amount of gaming/GPU related scenarios I do on it (Never). Does Kabini even fit in a 1U Chassis?
Hah, yeah. No idea how the heck ATi managed to convince AMD they were worth that much. Someone (or several someones) got a very nice payday from that.
^ This + 1,000,000. For many, it's not about cost or brand but simple baseline performance. It's now 2014, not 2007 and a 7730/7750 is simply not the "low-end baseline" anymore. Atenra's endlessly spammed blurry upscaled "720p on low" or "25-30fps @ 1080p" look and play like absolute cr*p in practice (on proper native resolutions : 17fps in Crysis 3 on LOW? 28fps in Bioshock Infinite on Med? 20fps Metro Last Light on Medium? 24fps in AC4 on "low" with AA disabled? These are all *avg* fps - the min fps slowdowns during "heavy" scenes are often 20-30% lower. And they're all "last gen" games...) No thanks. Who is seriously pumping this as a "gaming rig" when a budget dGPU like a 7790/260X/750Ti gets literally triple the fps at higher settings for very little extra as a percentage of the whole rig (other than obvious AMD resellers...)? It's like "winning gold for high jump" when the bar is 6 inches off the floor as some 'overwhelming victory' over silver & bronze which are 3 & 2 inches off the floor, whilst everyone else who's actually interested in the high-jump contest just steps over both of them...If AMD APU's were putting up say Geforce 750 type numbers for the same price as an i3 with a 4600 then yeah lets discuss it. But all i see are cheap AMD APU's putting out better but still terrible gaming performance with a cult following of people that seem to claim they are the future.
In all situations except very low end where 50$ makes all the difference in the world, pay for an Intel chip with a discrete GPU and get drastically better performance. If AMD releases a CPU equal to an i3 with an iGPU equal to a Geforce 750 for 100 bucks or whatever then bam, I'm in the AMD APU camp for low end.
You had to end with a trollish question of course, you perfectly know that Kabini use mitx board like the J1900, but hey, why not benefit from the post to throw some trash.?.
As for the case i mounted it in this one :
Try putting a fanless J1900 inside...
I specifically stated "1U server Chassis". That thing is of course almost twice as wide as one. Thanks for the reading comprehension. I'll be really happy to know that I could waste 2 slots in a rack for Kabini and only 1 slot in a rack for J1900.
Of course, it has to do with casing so perfs can be dismissed as irrelevant...
There are fanless A4 5000 if your rack is compatible with mitx boards, but wait, the perfs are not good enough this time..??.
There are a few cool boards here in Europe :
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00166759.html
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00178959.html
Second one is the coolest with its 6 USB3.
That's a shame.
Googling A4-5000 review only brings up the old laptop reviews.
There are no HTPC reviews of the product.
This is an issue AMD has where even if it has a product that may be competitive, it doesn't get enough information out about that product. Their PR team is horrendous, it seriously knows no bounds for failure.
You can't sell a product that no one knows anything about. It's best use would be small HTPCs yet it has no reviews in that aspect.
Only 1 review on the Zotac box on Amazon.
Because of higher volume and margins for maximum profit. Same reason why Intel wont raise prices.
We talked about desktop.
Two graphs relevant for you and other graphs relevant for others people, there s no reason that your tasks should be the reference for everybody.
Kabini has a silent mode for the fan, if you had asked me i would had told you that it became noisy once i added a 2.5" HDD for mass storage.
You had to end with a trollish question of course, you perfectly know that Kabini use mitx board like the J1900, but hey, why not benefit from the post to throw some trash.?.
As for the case i mounted it in this one :
Try putting a fanless J1900 inside...
This is an issue AMD has where even if it has a product that may be competitive, it doesn't get enough information out about that product. Their PR team is horrendous, it seriously knows no bounds for failure.
The athlon K versions usually have the cache chopped. So I doubt it'll get remotely close as its a neutered chip to begin with