Is America really as fat as I think?

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SearchMaster

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I've posted pictures of myself on here before, I'm sure you could find them if you tried.
I've seen them...can confirm NOT fat. I'm about 6 pounds below "overweight" by BMI standards too. I'm around 15-17% body fat (depending on method used) which could be better but I look pretty fit, especially for my age (51). If BMI is used as the standard for obesity, the percentage of obese Americans has to be much higher than 25%.
 

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I hit my 40's this year. And I do notice that weight is definitely a little more stubborn to shed. I was actually a little surprised when I stepped on a scale the other day. Was pushing 185. I'm 6' tall. And I run *a lot*. I've been averaging 25-30 miles a week the last 4 months. Put down a 22 minute 5k on a training run last week. So in decent shape. My garmin equipment is telling me that my VO2 is decent. this was taken a few weeks ago. But weight is still up there a bit. I eat pretty well, don't do much sweets, and am good on portion sizes. But weight sort of crept up on me.

 

kn51

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I'm 5'11 and like 205lbs and I'm not a fatty at all, I just have an athletic build. I have fat yes but I can still see my abs.

Hell at my largest I was 217lbs and you could still see like a 4pack and I was borderline obese by BMI standards. I am kind of built like a linebacker though so you're right on that front.

Heh, you must be my internet twin. Same height, hovering around the same weight.

Pretty much labeled obese by the BMI. We need to get to the 160 range. Of course then we'll look like a stick figure.
 

Chaotic42

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I hit my 40's this year. And I do notice that weight is definitely a little more stubborn to shed. I was actually a little surprised when I stepped on a scale the other day. Was pushing 185. I'm 6' tall. And I run *a lot*. I've been averaging 25-30 miles a week the last 4 months. Put down a 22 minute 5k on a training run last week. So in decent shape. My garmin equipment is telling me that my VO2 is decent. this was taken a few weeks ago. But weight is still up there a bit. I eat pretty well, don't do much sweets, and am good on portion sizes. But weight sort of crept up on me.

I got that checked when I was 25 or so and my VO2 max was something stupid like 18. I'm sure it's worse now.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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We can't even get chicken producers to raise chickens without salmonella, good luck getting food manufacturers to decrease sugar and fat in their products. Portion size is an American problem. You could have a great mom and pop rice bowl place right next to a MickeyDees and I guarantee you the golden arches would be doing three times the business.
 

Exterous

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You could have a great mom and pop rice bowl place right next to a MickeyDees and I guarantee you the golden arches would be doing three times the business.

McDonalds also has been having some crazy app deals which I'm sure doesn't help. $1 signature sandwich everyday till september something. I got a quarter pounder a couple of days ago and, holy cow, all the grease and salt. Lots of unhealthy calories for only a buck
 

NoTine42

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For some odd reason, I read one of those Facebook sponsored articles today.
It was about a guy from Ireland who spent a year in America, and was giving his click-bait worthy list of problems with America... but seceral were relevant for this thread. Portion sizes are too large here. We drink too much Coke .., etc. but he also mentioned that there’s too much marketing. He was complaining more about TV show interruptions, but also noted how effective marketing seems to be.

Which really ties back into our food problems. Quantity is a very effective selling point, and we certainly seem to market it effectively.
 

lxskllr

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I should be about 20# lighter. I'll get more exercise when the weather gets decent. Work's been fairly low key this year, though I was close to falling out yesterday. It's all fun and games til you stop sweating :^/
 

TestKing123

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Obesity is not just a US problem, it's a world wide problem. UK obesity rates are increasing faster than the United States for example.

Yet at the same time, US mortality rates from circulatory diseases (which includes heart attacks and strokes) are lower than other countries. Sweden has a higher mortality rate from heart attacks and strokes for example.

So what does this mean? People are getting fatter yet living longer. I say you only live once, eat whatever the hell you want and don't worry about others.

In my case I'm 5'6 but 220 lbs, by BMI index alone I am considered overweight...yet I have far more muscle than fat because I power lift. Skinny people can gloat all they want about being skinny, lets see them bench press, squat, or deadlift as much as I do.
 

SearchMaster

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Obesity is not just a US problem, it's a world wide problem. UK obesity rates are increasing faster than the United States for example.

Yet at the same time, US mortality rates from circulatory diseases (which includes heart attacks and strokes) are lower than other countries. Sweden has a higher mortality rate from heart attacks and strokes for example.

So what does this mean? People are getting fatter yet living longer. I say you only live once, eat whatever the hell you want and don't worry about others.

In my case I'm 5'6 but 220 lbs, by BMI index alone I am considered overweight...yet I have far more muscle than fat because I power lift. Skinny people can gloat all they want about being skinny, lets see them bench press, squat, or deadlift as much as I do.
No...by BMI standards, you are in the Obesity Class 2 category.
 

ra1nman

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I was watching Gallagher with my son on Netfilx and it was one of his older stand-up performances. I think it was from the 80's and when the camera would pan out to the crowd, I don't think you could spot a single overweight person in the audience.

Before meeting my other half last year I was 175lbs and worked out or ran easily 3x a week. While I felt physically fit my body didn't quite have much definition. Currently i'm at 145lbs and workout once maybe 2x a week. I'm about to hit 41 and stand at 5'11"...and for the 1st time I could see muscles on my body as I've always looked on the no-so athletic side of things.

It is interesting my other half is a nutritionist and we do follow a Paleo diet.....spending time for meal prepping does take a lot of time. And I think that is part of the problem, not too many see value in preparing their own food anymore. Talking to many of my coworkers it seems like nobody cooks meals at home anymore and everyone eats out for dinner. During lunch breaks the vast majority of people bring in boxed lunches and its rare that I see lunches in the fridge that don't look like restaurant leftovers or a microwave dinner.
 

SearchMaster

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I was watching Gallagher with my son on Netfilx and it was one of his older stand-up performances. I think it was from the 80's and when the camera would pan out to the crowd, I don't think you could spot a single overweight person in the audience.

Before meeting my other half last year I was 175lbs and worked out or ran easily 3x a week. While I felt physically fit my body didn't quite have much definition. Currently i'm at 145lbs and workout once maybe 2x a week. I'm about to hit 41 and stand at 5'11"...and for the 1st time I could see muscles on my body as I've always looked on the no-so athletic side of things.

It is interesting my other half is a nutritionist and we do follow a Paleo diet.....spending time for meal prepping does take a lot of time. And I think that is part of the problem, not too many see value in preparing their own food anymore. Talking to many of my coworkers it seems like nobody cooks meals at home anymore and everyone eats out for dinner. During lunch breaks the vast majority of people bring in boxed lunches and its rare that I see lunches in the fridge that don't look like restaurant leftovers or a microwave dinner.
Nobody has time to prep and cook meals. With both parents working 50+ hour weeks to afford their McMansion and German luxosport SUVs, they're too exhausted to come home and spend another hour prepping, cooking, and cleaning so they pick up fast food or other takeout for the munchkins.
 

purbeast0

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Nobody has time to prep and cook meals. With both parents working 50+ hour weeks to afford their McMansion and German luxosport SUVs, they're too exhausted to come home and spend another hour prepping, cooking, and cleaning so they pick up fast food or other takeout for the munchkins.
Everyone has time. The problem is they are too fucking lazy to use that time to eat healthy. They would rather sit on the couch and watch Netflix while stuffing their face with McDonalds.
 

PricklyPete

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Everyone has time. The problem is they are too fucking lazy to use that time to eat healthy. They would rather sit on the couch and watch Netflix while stuffing their face with McDonalds.

This. It is about priorities, wants, and laziness. Not time.
 

TestKing123

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No...by BMI standards, you are in the Obesity Class 2 category.

Which is the point, I'm not "obese" at all. My height and muscle content distorts my BMI index. I have thick legs, core, and arms. I get the same speech from every health checkup, my BMI is not indicative of obesity risks because I actually have very little fat and I'm in excellent cardiovascular shape. Yet I am clumped in the same BMI category as other people who are actually obese, which in turn distorts obesity statistics overall because there are plenty of other people like me that fall into this category.
 

lxskllr

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which in turn distorts obesity statistics overall because there are plenty of other people like me that fall into this category.
I get what you're saying, but I don't know about "plenty". I think the obesity stats are pretty accurate, and outliers like you wouldn't move it a percentage point if accurately tallied.
 
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Everyone has time. The problem is they are too fucking lazy to use that time to eat healthy. They would rather sit on the couch and watch Netflix while stuffing their face with McDonalds.
This. It is about priorities, wants, and laziness. Not time.

Yes, but can you blame people? After 9 hours of work, 1-2 hours of commute - on top of other tasks like taking care of kids... Can you blame people that they just want to veg and watch 1 or 2 hours of what little free time you have to watch TV or something?

I dunno, part of my problem is I grew up coming home from school and playing videogames and jacking off all day. So I expected something somewhat similar in adulthood - albeit, not as much.

So right now after I get home, first task is making dinner and cleaning up, next step is other chores - feed the kid, bathe the kid, make stuff for tomorrow morning (Lunch, pre-make coffee), feed and take care of the dogs, etc.. By that time, I might have just enough time for either 2 30-minute shows or 1 1hr show. Not exactly a shitload of extra time or anything.
 

ImpulsE69

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Not to make excuses, but 'staying fit' is no longer a 'it just happens'. It takes work and time for most people because most people aren't doing hard labor. They are advertised to like crazy with every unhealthy thing out there - regardless if they watch TV or not. Technology has made us lazy. While humanity has to take some sort of accountability, but on the whole life itself is not like it was 50 years ago and it isn't something most people give a damn about day to day because they have 100's of other things to worry about. Why is America fatter? Because we're the best damn country out there in terms of availability of anything and everything. That comes with both good and bad.

It takes actual OBSESSION to stay fit these days. I know, that's me right now. It sucks, and I'm just mildly overweight.
 

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Everyone has time. The problem is they are too fucking lazy to use that time to eat healthy. They would rather sit on the couch and watch Netflix while stuffing their face with McDonalds.

Your oldest kid isn't in school yet, right? When you start getting kids into activities/sports it does get a bit more complicated, especially if both parents are working. Swim practice, academic clubs, tae kwon do, ect. Get off work at 4:30. Have 15 minute walk to car. 15 minute drive to school. Another 10 minutes to get them rounded up and in car. Practice @ 5:30. Gets done at 6:15 or later. Home at 6:30. Then homework, dinner, bath, bed by 7:45. Then add in a second kid with a similar schedule.

It does get busy and it's not just sitting on a couch shoveling food in my face watching netflix.
 

purbeast0

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Yes, but can you blame people? After 9 hours of work, 1-2 hours of commute - on top of other tasks like taking care of kids... Can you blame people that they just want to veg and watch 1 or 2 hours of what little free time you have to watch TV or something?

I dunno, part of my problem is I grew up coming home from school and playing videogames and jacking off all day. So I expected something somewhat similar in adulthood - albeit, not as much.

So right now after I get home, first task is making dinner and cleaning up, next step is other chores - feed the kid, bathe the kid, make stuff for tomorrow morning (Lunch, pre-make coffee), feed and take care of the dogs, etc.. By that time, I might have just enough time for either 2 30-minute shows or 1 1hr show. Not exactly a shitload of extra time or anything.
Yes I blame them and no one else. I'm not one of the "blame everyone else for my problems" people and this is EXACTLY their fault and no one elses.
 

purbeast0

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Not to make excuses, but 'staying fit' is no longer a 'it just happens'. It takes work and time for most people because most people aren't doing hard labor. They are advertised to like crazy with every unhealthy thing out there - regardless if they watch TV or not. Technology has made us lazy. While humanity has to take some sort of accountability, but on the whole life itself is not like it was 50 years ago and it isn't something most people give a damn about day to day because they have 100's of other things to worry about. Why is America fatter? Because we're the best damn country out there in terms of availability of anything and everything. That comes with both good and bad.

It takes actual OBSESSION to stay fit these days. I know, that's me right now. It sucks, and I'm just mildly overweight.
Eh, it takes me about 4 hours a week at the gym and not eating like a fat fuck to stay in shape. It's far from an obsession, it just takes a little discipline.

Again, people are lazy so they won't do it. There's a reason we have a show called "My 600lb Life" on TV. Those people didn't get 600lbs overnight, they were lazy as shit for years.
 

purbeast0

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Your oldest kid isn't in school yet, right? When you start getting kids into activities/sports it does get a bit more complicated, especially if both parents are working. Swim practice, academic clubs, tae kwon do, ect. Get off work at 4:30. Have 15 minute walk to car. 15 minute drive to school. Another 10 minutes to get them rounded up and in car. Practice @ 5:30. Gets done at 6:15 or later. Home at 6:30. Then homework, dinner, bath, bed by 7:45. Then add in a second kid with a similar schedule.

It does get busy and it's not just sitting on a couch shoveling food in my face watching netflix.
You can literally cook a healthy meal in like 15-25 minutes of prep + cook time. You don't have 20 minutes a day to make a healthy meal?

Or you can meal prep on the weekends and use a microwave to heat up the food and prepare a side in like 5-10 minutes.

Again, it's all excuses.
 
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