Is ati ever going to release a driver to fix x1950 series cards on Vista?

[Reckoner]

It's past the point of ridiculousness. At least issue a beta driver or something. It sucks not being able to play any games

 

[Zenoth]

Isn't Catalyst 7.2 for Vista supposed to support the X1950's ?

If not then wait for Catalyst 7.3, it has to come out this month, perhaps next week.

 

[Aries64]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
It's past the point of ridiculousness. At least issue a beta driver or something. It sucks not being able to play any games

I don't want to start a flamefest, but anyone who is running Vista voluntarily should reconsider their decision to be a Microsoft guinea pig. As if anyone really needs DirectX 10 for gaming right now. I consider non-voluntary Vista users people who are running Vista due to corporate requirements or new a PC purchase where XP was not an option (PC was only available with Vista installed). Rant over.

Catalyst® 7.2 Display Driver for Windows Vista (32 bit)

Catalyst® 7.2 Display Driver for Windows Vista (64 bit)

 

[jasonja]

What's your problem? I'm running a X1950pro and XTX on Vista right now with no issues.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: jasonja
What's your problem? I'm running a X1950pro and XTX on Vista right now with no issues.

Have you tried gaming? Anyone with a x1950xt card who tries to game on Vista will cause their PC to crash. Something from going from 2D to 3D, or a change in resolutions.

 

[nullpointerus]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: jasonja
What's your problem? I'm running a X1950pro and XTX on Vista right now with no issues.

Have you tried gaming? Anyone with a x1950xt card who tries to game on Vista will cause their PC to crash. Something from going from 2D to 3D, or a change in resolutions.

I believe there's a workaround for this. You must disable the ATI service and use a third party tool like ATITool to change the clocks back and forth between 2D and 3D. Irritating, but you can setup a hotkey to make it easier until ATI issues a fixed driver. You'd have to Google for it to find step-by-step instructions; I don't have a link to it.

 

[Canterwood]

Originally posted by: Aries64
I don't want to start a flamefest, but anyone who is running Vista voluntarily should reconsider their decision to be a Microsoft guinea pig. As if anyone really needs DirectX 10 for gaming right now.

QFT.

If your an early adopter, you just have to accept things will not be 100% from the start.

Personally I wont touch Vista till the end of the year and SP1.

 

[firebyyrd]

Originally posted by: Canterwood

Originally posted by: Aries64
I don't want to start a flamefest, but anyone who is running Vista voluntarily should reconsider their decision to be a Microsoft guinea pig. As if anyone really needs DirectX 10 for gaming right now.

QFT.

If your an early adopter, you just have to accept things will not be 100% from the start.

Personally I wont touch Vista till the end of the year and SP1.

agreed

 

[Reckoner]

Sure, I don't expect everything to be perfect. But I'd qualify not being able to play a single game without crashing the PC to be a major issue.

 

[chrome0011]

Just thought I'd update this topic... I just today tried to install the final upgrade to my agp machine: A Shiny New X1950pro AGP. On Vista.

Vista No Likey.

Apparently Nvidia doesn't think that Nforce3 is a chipset worth supporting anymore. See these articles for details: Here and Here

Well, I was faced with some choices...

1) Return the card to newegg at a 15% restocking fee and go back to the 6800 Ultra.
2) Get a mobo which will support the card (VIA chipset) at a cost of 75-100.
3) Return the card and get an Nvidia, supporting their nonsense.
4) Keep the card, go back to XP.

I chose 4, because I still have some hope that Nvidia will support the chipset like they said they would. I did find a petition online Here addressing the issue.

So what 'chall think? Am I asking too much, given the situation? I may be biased, but I don't think that Nforce3 is so old as to deserve the boot...

 

[aka1nas]

I thought there was a workaround for it? I.E. the installer for the Cats just wasn't recognizing the AGP cards right and tried to install the PCI-E driver for them. I thought that manually adding the card via device manager worked?

 

[aka1nas]

Also, arguably, if you are going to do either any of options 1 through 3, you might as well get the PCI-E version and an Nforce 4 board. I'm not sure if you are on socket 754 or 939, but worst case you can probably still grab an Nforce 4 board for around $40-$50. Aren't the AGP X1950 Pros still carrying a premium over the PCI-E versions?

 

[chrome0011]

Thought about the pci-e version option myself, but I really don't want to pay the restock fee. At this point, I've committed to keeping the card, since Nvidia has apparently announced that they will fix the issue. I was really hoping to rabble rouse over here and get some more attention on the issue.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Originally posted by: chrome0011

So what 'chall think? Am I asking too much, given the situation? I may be biased, but I don't think that Nforce3 is so old as to deserve the boot...

I agree. I bought a motherboard with an ATI chipset partly for those kinds of reasons. (It was an Abit AT8 32X for socket 939 with 580 chipset).

 

[Stumps]

hmmm not sure what you are doing wrong but I've had my X1950Pro running perfectly fine with all of the offical Vista ATI cats for a month now.

I'm currently testing a Gecube X1950XT and it is working fine under vista ultimate.

 

[chrome0011]

This happens when you get a combination of an X2, nForce3 mobo, ati card, and vista. If you don't have this problem, then you don't have this setup.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: chrome0011
This happens when you get a combination of an X2, nForce3 mobo, ati card, and vista. If you don't have this problem, then you don't have this setup.

yes...and it isn't an ATI issue...it's a Nvidia issue...no updated NF3 drivers are the cause of the problem.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Sure, I don't expect everything to be perfect. But I'd qualify not being able to play a single game without crashing the PC to be a major issue.

There are no "buts". You said yourself that you don't expect everything to be perfect. Does that include everything else except for what "you" use your PC for?

Look, it's a PITA when things don't work right. People who "do not have" to use Vista, I.E. you and I, really should wait til Service Pack 1 (I recall SP1 for XP helped tremendously) for Vista. Until then, stick with XP until there is a real reason to use Vista.. As of right now, there is no reason. Really. Vista is not ready for prime time, especially for gaming. No matter what hardware you choose.

 

[cyclohexane]

The catatlyst 7.4s fixed my x1950xt problems.

 

[AnotherGuy]

Also.... I dont know if it has to be an X2 only processor... but on my single cpu core a64 nforce 3 250 939 my ATI card worked fine in Vista while gaming... check my sig

 

[chrome0011]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: chrome0011
This happens when you get a combination of an X2, nForce3 mobo, ati card, and vista. If you don't have this problem, then you don't have this setup.

yes...and it isn't an ATI issue...it's a Nvidia issue...no updated NF3 drivers are the cause of the problem.

Yes, that's what I said. Read my original post. And the articles I linked to. I realize some of you don't have this particular problem, because some of you don't have this particular combination of gear. BUT, I'm sure there are a significant number of those who DO, and, if you read the articles, you'll see that Nvidia originally stated they would support nforce3, and then backpedaled and said they wouldn't. I think that's bull.

Right now, to make due, I've disabled one of the cores when using vista, and that works. In order to play games, I boot into XP. So I'm making due. But I do think it's very reasonable to expect some kind of fix from Nvidia.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: chrome0011

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: chrome0011
This happens when you get a combination of an X2, nForce3 mobo, ati card, and vista. If you don't have this problem, then you don't have this setup.

yes...and it isn't an ATI issue...it's a Nvidia issue...no updated NF3 drivers are the cause of the problem.

Yes, that's what I said. Read my original post. And the articles I linked to. I realize some of you don't have this particular problem, because some of you don't have this particular combination of gear. BUT, I'm sure there are a significant number of those who DO, and, if you read the articles, you'll see that Nvidia originally stated they would support nforce3, and then backpedaled and said they wouldn't. I think that's bull.

Right now, to make due, I've disabled one of the cores when using vista, and that works. In order to play games, I boot into XP. So I'm making due. But I do think it's very reasonable to expect some kind of fix from Nvidia.

I agree.

Did you get your X1950 from newegg? If so, if you want to avoid the restocking fee, call them up and let them know you will be ordering a PCIe version and a motherboard that will cost more total than what you are returning, they'll usually agree to wave the restocking fee since you are buying more expensive stuff to cure your problem. Keep them on the phone while you complete the order (they should also be able to create the RAM number you will need for the AGP card on the phone) and give them the order confirmation number. They'll update your RMA information right then to wave the restock fee, and you should be set. A little hassle probably, but worth that 15%.

Nat

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: AnotherGuy
Also.... I dont know if it has to be an X2 only processor... but on my single cpu core a64 nforce 3 250 939 my ATI card worked fine in Vista while gaming... check my sig

I believe it is only a X2 problem, my old A64 3000+, GA-K8NS PRO NF3 250 and Sapphire X1950PRO used to run vista like a champion...the only consession I had to make was I couldn't use the NF3 SATA RAID with vista...but luckly the K8NS PRO has a Silicon Image SATARAID controller as well.