There are many other towns/cities without the weather of Chicago that aren't in California. A great compromise might be Denver (if you still want to be in a city). It has winter, but not the death-grip black-ice winters of the upper midwest. Sunny 300 days a year, but you still have four seasons, laid back, reasonably priced. Then there's the south or not-quite-so south, like Nashville. Many, many other cool cities in this country - Seattle, New Orleans, Charlotte, and a thousand smaller towns within an easy drive of those cities if you want to catch a ball game or a symphony orchestra.
You're young, you have little tying you down. Get out and explore.
Phoenix = giant suburbia in the middle of the desert. All the houses look the same. Strip malls everywhere. 110 degrees. What's the allure? Are people that afraid of a little snow?
Give me some urban life. Chicago is a real city without "rip off" prices like NY or LA have.
The allure?
110 degrees is not bad. Anything below freezing sucks though. I absolutely hate the cold. No matter how well I bundle up, my feet will get cold, my hands will probably get cold, my face gets cold, etc. Cold is a feeling i abhor.
Heat? I can handle heat. Put on a tank top, go swimming, just relax... When it gets hot outside, there isn't any precip to worry about. When it gets cold, you have snow, ice, crap that makes it hard to drive and people get into accidents more. UGH
Chicago has a unique living situation that makes snow far less ideal than Michigan if you don't have an indoor garage. I'm so sick of having to spend an hour shoveling out my car every 3 days or walking a mile+ back home with groceries in the snow. Even leasing garage access in my neighborhood would be of little use because Chicago doesn't plow alleys.
Either way, I have to wait until my annual review in May before I can request a winter temporary relocation.
The allure?
110 degrees is not bad. Anything below freezing sucks though. I absolutely hate the cold. No matter how well I bundle up, my feet will get cold, my hands will probably get cold, my face gets cold, etc. Cold is a feeling i abhor.
Heat? I can handle heat. Put on a tank top, go swimming, just relax... When it gets hot outside, there isn't any precip to worry about. When it gets cold, you have snow, ice, crap that makes it hard to drive and people get into accidents more. UGH
Uhhh, Lake Tahoe is in Nevada.
While the rest of the east coast bunkers down due to snowpocalpyse, I'm about to walk to the food trucks near my work place - it's a balmy 79' out here in SoCal.
Lol. You don't know what you're missing! Snowpocalpyse is only bad if you're in the north where they don't close schools or businesses. Here in the South, we use it as mini snow vacation and opportunity to eat, drink, and watch TV while stuck inside. You might have food trucks but I ate NY Strip steak, Alaskan king crab legs, salmon, pulled pork, beer, wines, etc yesterday and today in comfort of my home.
Here's the key difference: I can still do exactly what you did.
Good luck walking to your local food truck
Chicago has a unique living situation that makes snow far less ideal than Michigan if you don't have an indoor garage. I'm so sick of having to spend an hour shoveling out my car every 3 days or walking a mile+ back home with groceries in the snow. Even leasing garage access in my neighborhood would be of little use because Chicago doesn't plow alleys.
Either way, I have to wait until my annual review in May before I can request a winter temporary relocation.
I know this thread will get locked in the future when CA's pretentiousness reaches critical mass and the fault lines fail in the most spectacular way, but here is a preemptive "I told you so"
In the mean time, I'm sure getting my LOL's on this winter season
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2368769
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2368821
Pretty sure those linked threads are natural temporary weather phenomena, although the Weather Channel would want us to believe otherwise.
I actually enjoy cold weather and shoveling snow and the commonality that complaining about the weather a real winter brings.
Not sure how big the next "big" quake is going to be there, or if it is going to tamper with the magma sitting underneath Wyoming, but shoveling even 1000 square feet of pavement seems pretty easy over the pavement sinking several feet into the ground.
Stay safe out there, and I'll take boring predictable storms to unpredictable earthquakes any day.
You're lucky the midwest doesn't have unpredictable natural disasters
My argument was that superior location is a myth construed by real estate agents and their clients (suckers), and smug Californians should probably realize that.
While that is true, clearly some places are far superior to others.
k, I'm done (for now).
My argument was that superior location is a myth construed by real estate agents and their clients (suckers),
Sorry, I was being logical and drawing on my previous statement that the perfect place doesn't exist. That includes the Midwest, which I actually kind of despise compared to Nevada and New Mexico (my mountain girls).
My argument was that superior location is a myth construed by real estate agents and their clients (suckers), and smug Californians should probably realize that. I know karma is fake, but if it wasn't then I think the rest of the USA is long overdue for yet another Cali disaster we can pretend to be sad about and secretly happy it didn't happen to us.
So no, I am actually pretty unlucky to have to live in Ohio, but that is where my family is, and multiple moves brought me back here after family trouble. I would rather be back in New Mexico and only have to worry about Los Alamos blowing us up, or wildfires choking us out.
Sorry I meant superior as in there were no negatives. I get the real estate con, but every place that has excellent weather also has downsides.
I agree it was dumb phrasing, but thinking there is some sort of utopia with perfect weather and no other downsides is not exactly brilliant.
I am sure based on this winter, this benefit will be dropped by many companies.
I never knew about winter relocation until the last week or so.
I live in Florida, when I get proof a Hurricane has fucked up my house and cars can I get a free pass each year to skip that shit and relax in cooler temps and get my job done in total comfort?
Well yea with California, we have the most taxed state, the most controlling state, the most populated state, the most traffic, etc etc. But for many people, the positives outweigh the negatives.
edit: I have lived in 6 different states and trust me the "perfect place" race is futile.
Nothing wrong with thinking the perfect place exists, but you are either in an unstable mental condition or drugged beyond belief to truly believe it.
Most taxed? Most controlling? I don't know the stats, but I would submit that NJ and NY take the cake for either of those categories. My taxes in NYC were WAY higher than anywhere in CA.Well yea with California, we have the most taxed state, the most controlling state, the most populated state, the most traffic, etc etc. But for many people, the positives outweigh the negatives.