Is Cathlocism Worse Than Islam?

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Younigue

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To answer your question, no I'm a Satanist. Although I do find some agreement with some parts of it.
Umm, I'm not sure I can say the same thing. My take away is every word of it stems from spite and petulance. Even the words that line up with how I approach life. Though I do not disregard it entirely if getting to self love and love of humanity is where it brings some one. There was no spite on my journey, just a desire to be someone I can love. No part of me wanted to draw those outward lessons from a source that preaches freedom for spite sake. There is no spite in my freedom. It's at no one and nothing's expense and it's not a show. The freedom of its message is more indulgence rather than true acceptance. IMO.

Though admittedly it's not one of the religions I've studied a lot of. Though one of the Navy "chaplains" I've interacted with was a satanist. I've been introduced to more than I ever expected to be. He was coo-coo!
 

whm1974

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Umm, I'm not sure I can say the same thing. My take away is every word of it stems from spite and petulance. Even the words that line up with how I approach life. Though I do not disregard it entirely if getting to self love and love of humanity is where it brings some one. There was no spite on my journey, just a desire to be someone I can love. No part of me wanted to draw those outward lessons from a source that preaches freedom for spite sake. There is no spite in my freedom. It's at no one and nothing's expense and it's not a show. The freedom of its message is more indulgence rather than true acceptance. IMO.

Though admittedly it's not one of the religions I've studied a lot of. Though one of the Navy "chaplains" I've interacted with was a satanist. I've been introduced to more than I ever expected to be. He was coo-coo!
I am however in strong agreement with the Satanic Temple's Grey Faction and Protect Children Projects.
https://greyfaction.org/
https://protectchildrenproject.com/
 

Noah Abrams

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I think you need to realize that although human beings have certain patterned traits which you see repeated from one to the next, there is a lot of individual difference in one's past experiences and personal psychology. One reason you remind me of Freud, besides the emphasis on unconscious emotion, is that Freud thought everyone underwent the exact same psychodrama as infants. You seem to think the same, though the psychodrama you describe is a little different from Freud's Oedipus Complex.

I have thought about this point. I think for the vast majority of cases, the pattern is very similar. Neglect, abuse, insults, projection of parents' inner hatred and fears and so on - all of these things could be very blatant and soul destroying, or more subtle. I suppose this is only to be expected since the vast majority of parents are quite unaware about themselves.
 

Younigue

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I have thought about this point. I think for the vast majority of cases, the pattern is very similar. Neglect, abuse, insults, projection of parents' inner hatred and fears and so on - all of these things could be very blatant and soul destroying, or more subtle. I suppose this is only to be expected since the vast majority of parents are quite unaware about themselves.
Must suck for you living in a land of zombies.
It's really pretty astounding that only you and a hand full of others just get it. Almost miraculous. Definitely too deep for mere mortals to comprehend. Absolutely worth segregating yourself from the ignorant masses. You got this darlin'. Nailing it.
 

Noah Abrams

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Must suck for you living in a land of zombies.
It's really pretty astounding that only you and a hand full of others just get it. Almost miraculous. Definitely too deep for mere mortals to comprehend. Absolutely worth segregating yourself from the ignorant masses. You got this darlin'. Nailing it.

You seem like the archetypal nagging wife. Yeah, don’t envy your husband :-(
 

MooseNSquirrel

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If you compare the religions then its quite obvious Catholicism isnt worse than Islam. There is no penalty for apostasy for Catholics or the issue of Muhammad and his wife which disputes this claim very easily.
Stop reading Christian propaganda sites, they make you even more uninformed than you already are on a multitude of unrelated subjects.

I dont really care about the sexual behaviour of a historical figure from 1500 years ago. Who knows what Jesus got up to, we dont have much historical information on him. And no, the Bible isn;t a historical document, and it was heavily edited in 400 AD to remove many of the contradictory Gospels.

Take a look at those African Christians are getting up to these days then get back to us.
 

Moonbeam

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To answer your question, no I'm a Satanist. Although I do find some agreement with some parts of it.
What the devil are you saying? I notice you have terrible grammar and I suspect English isn't your primary language. This poses problems in trying to figure out what you may actually be trying to say as opposed to word soup. I am happy to make allowances for your language choices if I know you're not a native speaker.
 

Younigue

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You seem like the archetypal nagging wife. Yeah, don’t envy your husband :-(
LOL! That's where you felt you needed to go with this? You're definitely well adjusted. Your words of "wisdom" really resonate now. Powerful stuff!
 

Younigue

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What the devil are you saying? I notice you have terrible grammar and I suspect English isn't your primary language. This poses problems in trying to figure out what you may actually be trying to say as opposed to word soup. I am happy to make allowances for your language choices if I know you're not a native speaker.
That's awfully big of ya Moonie.
 

Noah Abrams

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LOL! That's where you felt you needed to go with this? You're definitely well adjusted. Your words of "wisdom" really resonate now. Powerful stuff!

Apart from being a nagging wife, it appears comprehension is not one of your strong suites. Because I've never claimed to be either well adjusted or possessing wisdom.
 

Younigue

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Apart from being a nagging wife, it appears comprehension is not one of your strong suites. Because I've never claimed to be either well adjusted or possessing wisdom.
Ya don't make the claim but you present yourself that way. It's hysterical.
 

whm1974

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What the devil are you saying? I notice you have terrible grammar and I suspect English isn't your primary language. This poses problems in trying to figure out what you may actually be trying to say as opposed to word soup. I am happy to make allowances for your language choices if I know you're not a native speaker.
The only people that have perfect grammar are English teachers. and no there is nothing wrong with my grammar.
 

Noah Abrams

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Ya don't make the claim but you present yourself that way. It's hysterical.

I actually explicitly said that I can understand someone like myself attacking people, but not the successful and well adjusted ones. So "you present yourself that way" is entirely your perception. Now why you feel that, and why you feel threatened by moonbeam and so on, is something for you to ponder over
 

Younigue

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So ones sarcasm meter needs fixing.
His dumb is peaking its rather large head out isn't it? As for his loved ones I'm sure they have their reasons for loving him. He likely aids greatly to the degree with which that love is unhealthy. But I don't doubt he's loved.
 

Younigue

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I actually explicitly said that I can understand someone like myself attacking people, but not the successful and well adjusted ones. So "you present yourself that way" is entirely your perception. Now why you feel that, and why you feel threatened by moonbeam and so on, is something for you to ponder over
You did say that but then proceeded to blather on about shit you think is deep and worth sharing/teaching. It's as deep as your ability to have a meaningful conversation about it. You get that all of your blathering on was meaningless right? I don't need to actually say it, do I? I mean, I will. If you want me to but... Just kidding, I won't tell ya, I WON'T! You're stuck little darling. At least you've got Moonie (?) He's got loads and loads of comfort for ya. I'm sure he appreciates you getting his back too. You two fellas should meet IRL.
 
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whm1974

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I think we concluded or conversion on satanism.
Oh yes. Anyway I'm a Secular Humanist. There is no Higher Powers or gods for Humanity to beg for mercy nor were we damned in the first place. Humanity hasn't fallen from grace, but instead we are the Risen Hominids that choose not to exist at the mercy and whims of Nature, but instead choose to go forth and make our own destiny.
 

Younigue

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Oh yes. Anyway I'm a Secular Humanist. There is no Higher Powers or gods for Humanity to beg for mercy nor were we damned in the first place. Humanity hasn't fallen from grace, but instead we are the Risen Hominids that choose not to exist at the mercy and whims of Nature, but instead choose to go forth and make our own destiny.
I'm in for most of that or maybe just some of it. I'm definitely a humanist. I do believe in a higher power just not a biblical one. Hell for all I know the higher power is within us. Yes, destiny is ours but there is "magic" and the yet to be explained. I'm open to some of the unexplained being unexplainable. I don't believe a higher power has human sensibilities therefore no I do not believe in original sin. I believe in good and bad and that the majority of the human race innately knows the difference. I live a good life and I am a decent person because I want to be. It's how I get to love myself.
 

Moonbeam

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Oh yes. Anyway I'm a Secular Humanist. There is no Higher Powers or gods for Humanity to beg for mercy nor were we damned in the first place. Humanity hasn't fallen from grace, but instead we are the Risen Hominids that choose not to exist at the mercy and whims of Nature, but instead choose to go forth and make our own destiny.
I did warn you, did I not, that you would make this about who is the most Risen Hominid among us. Surely it is the hominid who prances about like a marionette, spouting Humanistic Risen Hominid blather. Out of the frying pan of traditional religious doctrine and into a Baked Alaska. Oh what foods these morsels be.

By the way, if your grammar's OK then you need to do some proof reading. Nobody was looking for perfection, just a semblance of coherence.
 
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