Huh? Everything about the early crusades was related to religion. That is certainly an interesting interpretation not shared by historians ive read or ever heard about.
Huh? Everything about the early crusades was related to religion. That is certainly an interesting interpretation not shared by historians ive read or ever heard about.I think that "The Crusades" is flawed in that list. The Crusades were not fought because they wanted to attack non-Christians. The Crusades were largely to take back land that had been lost in previous wars. Europe was mostly Christian until Muslim empires started to expand. What we call Spain today was taken over during the Umayyad Caliphate, and the expansion was continuing. Europe was largely fragmented expect for their unified religion. So, they eventually realized that the Muslims would eventually take them out one by one if they did not unify. They did and pushed back to take back their lost lands.
As most things go in history though, consolidated power can and will be corrupted and the later Crusades were about gaining power and wealth. But, to try and make it seem like they were only about religion is what that list tries to do.
Hahaha now that is some mighty fine whataboutism. Decorated with a lovely bow made of rhetoric.The OP is a troll. He points to one group while ignoring the fact that teachers have the largest percentage of child molesters on the planet. Colleges and school districts were and are complicit in many cases. Many of them also happen to be atheists!
You cant go one single day - not one - without reading about some teacher, somewhere caught molesting or outright copulating with children.....
...but please, do tell us whats wrong with the Catholic church that has already been recognized and addressed for at least two decades now, if not more.
What is the penalty for apostasy in both religions?
et’s not forget though, you’ve all defended pedophilia with your whataboutism and I think you imbeciles are incredibly sick to go off on completely unrelated tangents about wars started in 1400AD, third world countries and fired actors, rather than acknowledging that at current, in the first world and in your own country, Christian priests are raping children and getting away with it.
Sigh...
Both the UAE and Qatar rank higher in human rights scores than the current US score:
https://ourworldindata.org/human-rights
Meanwhile, back to facts: In their history, Christianity and Islam have been equally brutal... and continue to be so.
To say one is "worse" than the other displays an ignorance of history and a bias.
I didYou didn’t answer my question at all but I’m not surprised in the least with your track record of selective reading Now you’re just throwing shit hoping it sticks.
Because “authoritative representative” is a criteria you asserted to support your argument but is not a requirement to make a comparison.Why did you intentionally miss the part (You keep doing this) where I explained to you ISIS - a fringe terrorist group which Muslims do not consider as their authoritative representative - are not comparable to priests - which Christians DO consider their authoritative representative?
No, its a comparison to demonstrate what people are capable of enabling in the name of their flavor of god.The crap you wrote here is based on the laughable assumption that Muslims have placed ISIS on equal footing as to how Catholics have placed their priests.
Dodging would be to ignore you. I’ve answered your questions, but its not my answers you seek.time try not to dodge what I’ve said to you.
Huh? Everything about the early crusades was related to religion. That is certainly an interesting interpretation not shared by historians ive read or ever heard about.
Hahaha now that is some mighty fine whataboutism. Decorated with a lovely bow made of rhetoric.
And you are denying the truth.
Thanks for the nonresponse.
Next.
Do any research. The thing that unified them was religion, but, that was not the cause.
Europe was losing wars because they were fighting alone. They finally got together and took back land. The rest I already explained.
You wouldn't happen to have any of those pesky things called facts to back this up?The OP is a troll. He points to one group while ignoring the fact that teachers have the largest percentage of child molesters on the planet. Colleges and school districts were and are complicit in many cases. Many of them also happen to be atheists!
You cant go one single day - not one - without reading about some teacher, somewhere caught molesting or outright copulating with children.....
...but please, do tell us whats wrong with the Catholic church that has already been recognized and addressed for at least two decades now, if not more.
Lol taking Jerusalem back from the Muslim was the entire purpose of the Crusades. Them be Holy Wars sactioned by the Catholic Church.
Regardless to the underlying motivations, it's a standout example of how religion is poisonous, convincing people they're justified in their horrific actions.
Jumping into this thread, I don't know what your post is responding to but I wholeheartedly endorse your conclusion! Again and again, we've seen that this is true. If you don't know this, you are living under a rock or the victim of propaganda or some priest's dominant curse... and good luck.Regardless to the underlying motivations, it's a standout example of how religion is poisonous, convincing people they're justified in their horrific actions.
I had a conversation at my doctor's office yesterday with the who nurse accepted whatever Israel did to its neighbors as correct. She became offended when I pointed out that they are about to be dealt with over it, the time of Jacob's Trouble/Daniel's 70 weeks, because everybody at church knows that Christians and Israel can do whatever they want to without consequence.Regardless to the underlying motivations, it's a standout example of how religion is poisonous, convincing people they're justified in their horrific actions.
Ah, religion, the opium of the masses...Jesus loves you, bro. The sooner you can accept that the sooner your rage will dissipate.
I had a conversation at my doctor's office yesterday with the who nurse accepted whatever Israel did to its neighbors as correct. She became offended when I pointed out that they are about to be dealt with over it, the time of Jacob's Trouble/Daniel's 70 weeks, because everybody at church knows that Christians and Israel can do whatever they want to without consequence.
Lol taking Jerusalem back from the Muslim was the entire purpose of the Crusades. Them be Holy Wars sactioned by the Catholic Church. You know, jihad.
Don't we know it brother.
I did
Because “authoritative representative” is a criteria you asserted to support your argument but is not a requirement to make a comparison.
No, its a comparison to demonstrate what people are capable of enabling in the name of their flavor of god.
Dodging would be to ignore you. I’ve answered your questions, but its not my answers you seek.
Jesus are you dense. In plain English I’m telling you your comparisons are invalid. Do you understand why? I could come up with a BS argument similarly as stupid as yours: 6’5 White Males are rapists because [insert actor here] may have play roled as a rapist in a film. Your baseline for comparison is almost at the level of other unsubstantiated and stupid claims conservatards make up to the point where they can easily be brushed off without a second thought. You are reaching way too hard with the examples you’ve given because not only do you have to look outside of first world countries but you have to reach so far as a fucking terrorist group to make a comparison at all! How many times do I have to rephrase and repeat this to you?
I’ve added NO criteria of my own, that’s me pointimg out to you how easily dismissable your comparisons are. I’ve explained to you that you can’t compare apples to oranges because one is not similar to the other. Unless of course you are saying priests and terrorists are one and alike and are seen similarly in status/character/role to both of their respective religions. Absurd, I know but THAT is the comparison you’ve made and you are stupid enough to defend after so many rules I’ve pointed it out to you. Now think about that instead of dodging it with a BS answer like “there were no criterias so I can come up with any shitty comparison I like because nobody said otherwise.”
At this point you’re just admitting that you’re arguing in bad faith and just for the sake of arguing, again proving my initial point. You dont give a flying fuck about what op has posted you’re just here to shit out whatever comes to mind to deflect from actual discussion. Stop your stupid act and let’s see an actuall answer as to why you think a comparison between ISIS and priests sits congruent in any state of mind. I’m sure you’re not stupid enough to dismiss the fact one is a terrorist organisation condemned by its religious followers while the other is revered for its holy status by its religious group. Then again you’re not very bright so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the best example you could shit out.
I have already, as in previously this week, called for their churches to be leveled. Demolished.
In this thread even, not that you'd bother to read up on those whom you slander while pretending to be all high and mighty in your faux BS. "Defend pedophilia"? !@#$ off you lying !@#$ stain. I am one of the votes that stopped Roy Moore. Where as his actual flock couldn't give a damn and deluded themselves into thinking it's all fake.
Furthermore, per the topic at hand, I notice you never bothered to mention A SINGLE Muslim country that has fully endorsed human rights. That is a far bigger issue for our planet than a decrepit and self serving criminal organization. Because at least when one is discussing the Church it's a faith whose foundation was solid enough to let Western Democracies thrive rather than snuff them out. There were many advances made in spite of religion, but as is the purpose of this topic, our fate could have been much worse as demonstrated by those other countries.
But no, instead of providing something constructive. Instead of contributing as a functioning member, you deflect and attack messengers rather than address the issue raised. First words out of your mouth involved YOUR whataboutism when you invoked Trump. Attempted threadcrapping and derail much?
In our life times Catholicism and Islam stand in stark contrast. Both in the legacy of human rights in their respective cultures, and in the modern day threat and dangers we face.