This is a complete misrepresentation of the history of the crusades, and sounds like something a Christian appologist would come up with.
Try any book written by a historian that covers the middle ages.
This is a complete misrepresentation of the history of the crusades, and sounds like something a Christian appologist would come up with.The first one was a mixture of taking back Jerusalem, and was sold as a holy war for sure. It looks to have been about gaining power though as there was a new ruler that wanted to expand.
You simply cannot ignore the context of history though. As I said, the Muslim caliphates had been expanding into Christian Europe for some time. They also clearly had a plan of world domination and so it was not like it would stop. So, they unified under their one and only thing which was religion and expanded themselves.
Now, its also not lost on me that you have shifted from saying this "Lol taking Jerusalem back from the Muslim was the entire purpose of the Crusades.", to trying to say that the Crusades were about religion. That is a huge shift and appears to be very disingenuous. You may not realize that you originally took that stance, but you did.
Also, saying that war was due to religion is both right and wrong depending what you mean. Everyone back then was a religious believer in some way. It was how those who ruled make sure to legitimize and consolidate their power. So, religion being into everything means that it can never be disassociated, but, at that point its just a tool for those whom controlled that tool.
This is a complete misrepresentation of the history of the crusades, and sounds like something a Christian appologist would come up with.
Try any book written by a historian that covers the middle ages.
I was not name calling. Either you misrepresented my position on purpose which is dishonest, or, you completely misunderstood what you read and accused me of something pretty bad which would be stupid.
Hmmm, not sure there. I know of nothing that says its wrong or right. The Bible is not a great source of morality in my opinion. In terms of polling Christians, I think your numbers sound right to me.
No. The issue was that ISIS was not a representation of Islam as ISIS's beliefs and actions do not fit within Muslim beliefs. That is something I think is factually incorrect. My point was to establish that their actions are beliefs are not as universally opposed or disliked because many do believe they are not incorrect.
So no, the point is not to compare ISIS to pedophiles in the Catholic Church.
Not sure what the point you are trying to make here is.
Nor I yours, partly because it doesn't seem to have any frame of reference within the actual topic. I'm wondering if you're partaking in a bit of pedantry for its own sake.
If you don't know whether paedophilia is considered to be wrong according to the Catholic church, then you seem to be astonishingly ill-equipped to participate in such a topic.
Are you claiming the Crusades were not about taking back Holy Land from the Muslims?
Pop Urban II's "Deus vult!"?
http://www.donparrish.com/EssayPopeUrban.html
They wiped out the entire population of Jerusalem.
Did you read what I posted or are you intentionally being obtuse here?
The Abrahamic religions have always been bigoted toward other religions and non-believers.
well this shitstain wants to nuke Holland and murder millions for a cartoon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...amist-group-vows-wipe-Holland-face-earth.html
It is very telling that "God" didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil according to the Abrahamic religions.Who cares. They are both sides of the same coin. Methods for controlling large swaths of humankind with perpetual ignorance.
Stay dumb or I won't love you. I'm gonna try it on my husband... Divorce proceedings in 3...2...1...It is very telling that "God" didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil according to the Abrahamic religions.
Ask the victims of euro Christian colonialism how they feel.
That is because the US is only Christian in the sense that the majority of it's citizens follow some form of Christianity. The US was founded as a secular nation.In many Muslim countries you can be killed for leaving Islam, that doesn't happen in Christian countries like the US.
I did, but I think you might be in a rage and so ill just leave you alone.
Show me where the OP set those parameters for the comparison and I will gladly concede the point, and then you won’t have to repeat yourself.
I’ve explained this to you so many times, you dense imbecile: there are no criterias but to be arguing in good faith (which you’re clearly not and I’ve proven beyond doubt by this point) youd have to make a valid comparison unlike the bizarre ones you’ve made in this thread. Your comparisons are invalid. Now feel free to respond to the rest of my post that you unsurprisingly didn’t bother to read. I’ll take it you’ve conceded on the rest because I sure as hell cant see any reasonable person argue that priests and terrorists are the same, which is the invalidating premise of your comparison. Now try again, answer the question or don’t.
And you are denying the truth.
And what does atheism has to do with some teachers molesting children? And there isn't any teacher or atheist organizations actively protecting child molesters either.Teachers, by and far, have the largest percentage of child molesters in their profession than any other. Why, then, is this not considered a "crises" in America? Is it because we dont track the negative influence of atheism in society?
Making me chuckle Sheik!and you are nothing but a fucking poseur
That is because the US is only Christian in the sense that the majority of it's citizens follow some form of Christianity. The US was founded as a secular nation.
Thanks. I enjoy making people laugh or smile. Preferably not at the expense of others, but in this case I'll make an exception.Making me chuckle Sheik!
And what does atheism has to do with some teachers molesting children? And there isn't any teacher or atheist organizations actively protecting child molesters either.