Is Darren McFadden an elite running back?

Phokus

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I don't watch college ball much, but i've been thinking about this... if the 49ers continue to suck, the Pats may have a top 5 pick in the draft and supposedly, Darren McFadden is supposed to be a top 5 pick... is he really that good? Like Adrian Peterson good?
 

Tylanner

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He is amazing.

I really can't believe that people are talking about him not going #1.

It depends on teams needs but I think he's the best player in the class.

good all around back, slightly undersized for his height, but that can be addressed, more of a slasher than AP, but not nearly as much as Bush.

Oh yeah, HE CAN FLY and he runs like a football player, not a track star(teddy ginn)
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Tylanner
He is amazing.

I really can't believe that people are talking about him not going #1.

It depends on teams needs but I think he's the best player in the class.

good all around back, slightly undersized for his height, but that can be addressed, more of a slasher than AP, but not nearly as much as Bush.

If he was on a team that was more balanced on offense and teams had to at least give a sliver of respect to the passing game, you'd definately hear him being mentioned as a #1 pick.
 

JasonCoder

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DMac is the real deal. Closest back I can think of like him is All Day. Seems a bit sturdier than AP also.
 

Jedi Mike

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I honestly think he may be te number 1 pick this upcoming draft. There isn't much to choose from in this pool.

I don't think he is anything close to AP. I'd say he is like a Eddie George/Clinton Portis player.
 

JasonCoder

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Originally posted by: Jedi Mike
I honestly think he may be te number 1 pick this upcoming draft. There isn't much to choose from in this pool.

I don't think he is anything close to AP. I'd say he is like a Eddie George/Clinton Portis player.

Let's wait until AP plays more than 8 or 9 games to crown his ass. Who did NE trade SF for a 1st round pick, I forget?
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: Jedi Mike
I honestly think he may be te number 1 pick this upcoming draft. There isn't much to choose from in this pool.

I don't think he is anything close to AP. I'd say he is like a Eddie George/Clinton Portis player.

Let's wait until AP plays more than 8 or 9 games to crown his ass. Who did NE trade SF for a 1st round pick, I forget?

OL Joe Staley I believe.
 

BrokenVisage

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He's good, there's no doubt about that. But NCAA good is NOT NFL good, have we learned nothing from Reggie Bust?
 

eshtog

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Originally posted by: Jedi Mike
I honestly think he may be te number 1 pick this upcoming draft. There isn't much to choose from in this pool.

I don't think he is anything close to AP. I'd say he is like a Eddie George/Clinton Portis player.

Ummmmm has anyone heard of Jonathan Stewart who plays for the Oregon Ducks?

The guy is a beast.
 

fallenangel99

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McFadden is supposed to better, and hasn't been injured in college (AP has - missed final season I believe).

Supposedly, the Pats could pick AM at #5 (do the other 4 teams really need a RB??)

another option i've heard - jerry jones loves AM, he attends AM's games. Jones could make a trade with the Pats and pick AM.... that means DAL will have to trade Barber/Jones away...
 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: Balt
McFadden and Felix Jones are both excellent.

Each of the last two years, Felix Jones has had a higher YPC then McFadden, yet McFadden gets most of the attention (and the carries). Why does McFadden get more then 2 times as many carries, hasn't Jones shown that he deserves more?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Meh, its hard to say, I wouldn't be surprised if all of McFadden's success is because of that fake offense Arkansas runs on top of the shitty college defenses he gets to face.
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: fallenangel99
McFadden is supposed to better, and hasn't been injured in college (AP has - missed final season I believe).

Supposedly, the Pats could pick AM at #5 (do the other 4 teams really need a RB??)

another option i've heard - jerry jones loves AM, he attends AM's games. Jones could make a trade with the Pats and pick AM.... that means DAL will have to trade Barber/Jones away...

That's teh word. McFadden is better than AP. Bigger, faster, and no question mark of durability. He just doesn't get the huge national picture because the razorbacks suck.

As for Barber/Jones. Jones is a free agent and I believe Barber is a restricted one. Dallas though might have to trade quite a bit to get the niners pick from the Pats. The niners pick inches closer and closer to being a top 3 pick while the browns' (dallas owns) is headed towards the 15-20 range.

Anyhow I've never heard of McFadden going by "AM"

 

Balt

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Balt
McFadden and Felix Jones are both excellent.

Each of the last two years, Felix Jones has had a higher YPC then McFadden, yet McFadden gets most of the attention (and the carries). Why does McFadden get more then 2 times as many carries, hasn't Jones shown that he deserves more?

This is speculation on my part, but probably a lot of credit for Jones' success goes to McFadden being such a threat. I've watched a few Arkansas games and one thing they try to do is always keep the defense guessing on which of them the ball will be going to. Sometimes they will fake to McFadden and the defense will commit to him only to have the ball go to Jones and have him break out a huge run. Sometimes the opposite will also happen and McFadden will get the big run.

I think they both have the potential to be great in the NFL, but there's no real way to be sure until we actually see it. They definitely have an advantage in that defenses have to pay attention to both of them on the same play. Not a lot of teams have two RBs of their caliber, imo.
 

JasonCoder

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Balt
McFadden and Felix Jones are both excellent.

Each of the last two years, Felix Jones has had a higher YPC then McFadden, yet McFadden gets most of the attention (and the carries). Why does McFadden get more then 2 times as many carries, hasn't Jones shown that he deserves more?

This is speculation on my part, but probably a lot of credit for Jones' success goes to McFadden being such a threat. I've watched a few Arkansas games and one thing they try to do is always keep the defense guessing on which of them the ball will be going to. Sometimes they will fake to McFadden and the defense will commit to him only to have the ball go to Jones and have him break out a huge run. Sometimes the opposite will also happen and McFadden will get the big run.

I think they both have the potential to be great in the NFL, but there's no real way to be sure until we actually see it. They definitely have an advantage in that defenses have to pay attention to both of them on the same play. Not a lot of teams have two RBs of their caliber, imo.

With that backfield you'd think they'd win more games. I don't watch much Ark. football but they must have serious depth issues on the rest of the team.
 

RaistlinZ

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I'll grant that he's probably stronger than Peterson, but there's no way he's faster. We've all seen AP completely run away from cornerbacks in the NFL. AP also has a more explosive first step than McFadden.

The patriots should use the #5 pick to either get an elite linebacker or trade down to get more picks. They already have good running backs.
 

Spineshank

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Theres way better. Hes not consistent at all. When hes on hes ON. but more so than not hes off.
 

JDMnAR1

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Balt
McFadden and Felix Jones are both excellent.

Each of the last two years, Felix Jones has had a higher YPC then McFadden, yet McFadden gets most of the attention (and the carries). Why does McFadden get more then 2 times as many carries, hasn't Jones shown that he deserves more?

Felix isn't the same style runner as Darren. D-Mac is definitely more powerful than Felix, but I think Felix has a quicker first or second step once he hits a seam that lets him get that higher YPC. He is more of a threat in getting to the corner and breaking it than he is powering it up the middle like Darren does. Given the weak ass offense that Houston Nutt continues to run, there are a lot of carries up the middle, which is more Darren's game. The fact that they can both be in at the same time is what opens things up for some of the monster runs they each get.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Balt
McFadden and Felix Jones are both excellent.

Each of the last two years, Felix Jones has had a higher YPC then McFadden, yet McFadden gets most of the attention (and the carries). Why does McFadden get more then 2 times as many carries, hasn't Jones shown that he deserves more?

This is speculation on my part, but probably a lot of credit for Jones' success goes to McFadden being such a threat. I've watched a few Arkansas games and one thing they try to do is always keep the defense guessing on which of them the ball will be going to. Sometimes they will fake to McFadden and the defense will commit to him only to have the ball go to Jones and have him break out a huge run. Sometimes the opposite will also happen and McFadden will get the big run.

I think they both have the potential to be great in the NFL, but there's no real way to be sure until we actually see it. They definitely have an advantage in that defenses have to pay attention to both of them on the same play. Not a lot of teams have two RBs of their caliber, imo.

With that backfield you'd think they'd win more games. I don't watch much Ark. football but they must have serious depth issues on the rest of the team.

You should watch Arky attempt to pass. Or play pass defense.
 
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