Major DC page ? The posts on this forum are updated almost daily.I'd like to think I'm wrong but it looks like distributed computing is falling way out of favor.
- The major DC page hasn't been updated in 3 years
- Folding@Home has all but vanished
- The World Community Grid page is broken ad out of date
- Very little discussion here.
Thoughts?
Plus, time is money. Paying for super-computer time is more feasible these days.
82.58 TFLOPS for 4090 card.
Requires 18 4090 cards to match that.
My own farm has gone ballistic in power compared to 10 years ago. The power bill has gone from $200 to over $1000 and they are more efficient than ever. Gone from a handful of cores to over 1800 threads.But at the same time that is if you're doing FP32, boy if you do FP64 say goodbye to that max performance
But yes to the original thoughts, every year more people leave DC, but traditionally we had better CPUs to cover the "shortfall"
CPUs may be getting more efficient, but prices, including energy prices, are higher now.The power bill has gone from $200 to over $1000 and they are more efficient than ever. Gone from a handful of cores to over 1800 threads.
I'd like to think I'm wrong but it looks like distributed computing is falling way out of favor.
- The major DC page hasn't been updated in 3 years
- Folding@Home has all but vanished
- The World Community Grid page is broken ad out of date
- Very little discussion here.
Thoughts?
Most institutions supercomputer time is governed by how they allocate time to projects. For example at my university we have a modest supercomputer its 1.5PFLOP/s peak. Currently for a PhD student they get told they can have 24 hours of shared compute every 7-9 weeks, every institution/organisation/country/etc is different.
My own farm has gone ballistic in power compared to 10 years ago. The power bill has gone from $200 to over $1000 and they are more efficient than ever. Gone from a handful of cores to over 1800 threads.
The two biggest computers (in terms of threads) that I have is dual 7763 Milans and dual 7V12 Romes. They are 256 threads each, so there is 512 of my threads right there. I would not call them supercomputers. Want to see a picture of them ? and 3 7742 Milans is 384 more, so 5 computers is 900 threads. Then 8 5950x and 4 7950x is 394 more. one 64 thread Rome, and 5 64 thread Naples is 384 more. Still no supercomputers., a 2683v3, a 2970wx a 1950x.. I think 1800 is a little high... more like 1400.It would be fascinating (to me) to see how some of the individual "supercomputers" on this team compare to the one at Kiska's school!
I was thinking more of a comparison in total computing power. Kiska said the school system peaks at about 1.5PFLOPS.The two biggest computers (in terms of threads) that I have is dual 7763 Milans and dual 7V12 Romes. They are 256 threads each, so there is 512 of my threads right there. I would not call them supercomputers. Want to see a picture of them ?
I saw a table here: https://www.geeks3d.com/20140305/amd-radeon-and-nvidia-geforce-fp32-fp64-gflops-table-computing/I was thinking more of a comparison in total computing power. Kiska said the school system peaks at about 1.5PFLOPS.
According to Google, your dual 7763 is capable of about 7.16TFLOPS, but I'm not finding any numbers for the 7V12 Romes...
Add in all of the GPUs and the numbers go up really fast!
My puny collection of CPUs is about 8.3TFLOPS total (per Google), and my single RTX 3060Ti by itself can produce about 16.2TFLOPS.
F@H should be paying you!I just mentioned in the CPU forum, something that may be affecting DC work. Someone who does as much as me would see a $2,707 monthly electric bill !! That will cut down your DC work....
apparently, that's exactly what curecoin (I think that's it) used to do !F@H should be paying you!
There are still many projects that are thankful for D.C. contributors. And I have been in contact with others that are thinking about it. Regional electric power cost on most of the planet to varying degrees is a deterrent trend for many, but, under certain circumstances is also driver for researchers to look to D.C. once again.People with spare processing power are now using to mine crypto. Even though the electricity requirement means you are usually losing money. My electric bill keeps increasing. If I'm not using my system I put it in standby. And as pointed out earlier, if a company or university or whatever needs a large amount of work done, they just pay for a supercomputer or server farm. They cannot rely on strangers around the world.
F@H should be paying you!
Folding@home is now whitelisted on Gridcoin, and you can still run Folding@home as part of Team Anandtech while earning Gridcoin, but it requires creating a new user account since you have to put your Gridcoin address or something like that in your user name for them to be able to track it.apparently, that's exactly what curecoin (I think that's it) used to do !
Yeah thats what I meant, not a paycheck, but a chance at a currency that probably wont make them any money and most likely cost them money. But because so many people today cant do basic math, its still very popular.Just pointing out a little detail: Cryptotoken miners are not paid. They are merely given cryptotokens for their work. They can then take part in the cryptotoken snowball system and try to make money off it.
1. Which one?I'd like to think I'm wrong but it looks like distributed computing is falling way out of favor.
- The major DC page hasn't been updated in 3 years
- Folding@Home has all but vanished
- The World Community Grid page is broken ad out of date
- Very little discussion here.
Thoughts?
Also FoldingCoin.apparently, that's exactly what curecoin (I think that's it) used to do !
Right. I've been trying to get paid for DC since the start. FLDC made me about tree fiddy in BTC dust. Still haven't converted it either, so I've really made nothing!Just pointing out a little detail: Cryptotoken miners are not paid. They are merely given cryptotokens for their work. They can then take part in the cryptotoken snowball system and try to make money off it.
Next-gen PoW coins, using PoUW, will solve DC problems, and you can get paid.Right. I've been trying to get paid for DC since the start. FLDC made me about tree fiddy in BTC dust. Still haven't converted it either, so I've really made nothing!