The only thing he has to offer is his Woke War, and people seem to be getting tired of that. It's pretty easy to point out the ways FL has suffered from his... well, I guess technically it's called "leadership", but it's harder to point to actual accomplishments. No charisma, no accomplishments, visible weak points...Have you seen the other GQP candidates besides Ron? If it's not Trump, then it's Death Santis. Sure his stock seems pretty low right now, but even if he loses in 2024 the "long game" means he'll be back in 4 years.
Obviously charisma matters to voters, but I'm not so sure that Trump is more "electable" than RDS in a general election. Trump owns the MAGAt base, but is likely to lose swing voters. Now you might say that Trump will sabotage the GOP if somehow he's not the nominee. But if not for that effect, I actually think RDS has much less "baggage" than Trump in a general election. Remember Trumpism has been pretty shitty at elections since 2016, whereas RDS ran away in Floriduh by 20 points in 2020.
And then of course Trump literally defunded Social Security once in power. Never understood why Romney didn't do the same when Obama was extremely vulnerable in 2012, but instead ran on I'm going to take your Medicare.Trump governed like a hard right fascist but his campaign in 2016 was actually the most moderate of all the Republican candidates. For example he jettisoned the hugely unpopular ideas of cutting social security and Medicare. In fact in 2016 he was viewed (incredibly) as more moderate than Hillary Clinton.
Now of course this was all lies but the split in the 2016 primary was not moderates vs. conservatives it was clownish race baiter vs. hard right ideologues.
Meh the right thing would have been removing Trump from office. Pence is a little bitch.He happened to do the right thing when under duress from the traitors and for that I give him credit.
Jenner is just now waking up to the Republican agenda?Caitlyn Jenner is shocked to discover that the leopards want to eat her face. Putting you in a camp is the LAST thing I want to do! But it's on the list...
Someone needs to remind her that Trump also thinks she’s a deviant, but she supported him so she’s allowed to use the women’s restroom in the lobby of his building.
You know she rocked a mullet for 50 years, right?Jenner is just now waking up to the Republican agenda?
He's already said he'd pardon a convicted Trump because tossing a criminal ex-President into prison isn't good for the country.One thing he could do is in the case of a Trump guilty verdict is promise a pardon for him. With that, he'd probably win over the base, but he's completely incapable of winning over independents and anyone sane.
This is such a dumb argument. If presidents know they can never go to prison no matter what they do that’s a great incentive to commit crimes.He's already said he'd pardon a convicted Trump because tossing a criminal ex-President into prison isn't good for the country.
If Trump had a massive heart attack tomorrow, for all of Ron's warts, I think he would have the Trump base sewn up. Strategically, running on a Trumpian platform isn't working for Ron but I don't see how he can pivot or "reboot" to something better.
Besides, it's not like running a more aggressive and honest campaign like Will Hurd or Gov. Christie can upset the apple cart either. GOP low information voters don't want honesty or ethics, they want more Trump attacks.
Yeah well, unfortunately he'll be "vanishing" back here to where I am. Him being gone hasn't slowed down his craptastic FL state government from passing law after law though so it hardly matters, other than having a bit less stench around.So far all DeSantis has accomplished is a faster meltdown of support than even Jeb Bush had in 2016. Given that he couples extremist and vindictive politics with an extremely off-putting personality, hopefully he will soon vanish into the ether.
Maybe he'll shrug and move onto the grift circuit after his term is done.Yeah well, unfortunately he'll be "vanishing" back here to where I am. Him being gone hasn't slowed down his craptastic FL state government from passing law after law though so it hardly matters, other than having a bit less stench around.
Yes, there is a very active campaign in Republican donor circles to find the ‘not Trump’ for the reason I’ve always said - they think Trump will lose.DeSantis is done, heard that repub billionaires gave a dinner for Youngkin last week and my guess is he’s their man if trump ends up getting found guilty.
Youngkin getting in is my worst fear for dems election chances, he beats Biden in Virginia which Biden won in 2020.Yes, there is a very active campaign in Republican donor circles to find the ‘not Trump’ for the reason I’ve always said - they think Trump will lose.
This was a catastrophic mistake by DeSantis. His like from day 1 should have been ‘Trump is great but he lost, and he will lose again. I want to win.’
Trump a moderate? Lmfao. And Mussolini was a misunderstood woke liberal. Lord on a crutchSomeone above is arguing that Trump is/was seen as "moderate"? WTF? maybe if you looked at some economic scale or something, but Trump is as wannabe an authoritarian as we've had in American politics. In every way possible, he wants a government like his pal Putin has, with his whim as law. He's expressed admiration for the powers of dictators the world over, and hates the fact that he has to play with any rules at all. Fortunately he lacked the focus to make it happen, and unlike GWB didn't have a strong team of advisors to push forward a shitty agenda (of course the idea that GWB was actually in charge is quaint.)
If Trump gets in again, I expect he'll do a better job at making himself emperor as he desires. He's had years to stew over all the people that stopped him and revenge is on his mind.
Trump a moderate? Lmfao. And Mussolini was a misunderstood woke liberal. Lord on a crutch