For sake of argument consider it as an unintended but healthy pregnancy and exclude abortions for "live of mother," rape, and other typical exception cases.
Simple question. Is a woman who gets an abortion being responsible and accountable, or selfish and irresponsible? For sake of argument consider it as an unintended but healthy pregnancy and exclude abortions for "live of mother," rape, and other typical exception cases.
I vote nobody's business what her reasoning is but her own. Since it's a completely lawful action it doesn't matter why she does it.
If she is an adult then no, it really is not my business. Whether I like it or not an adult is free to make whatever medical decisions she wants. I'd hope she talkes to me about it first but if not that is her decision.Debate is on both sides here.
Some say: You are selfish for having an abundance of children and not thinking of the human population as a whole. Ultimately, they need more and feed more in life - especially if you are living off government assistance. But the main emphasis I believe, is that we are already a population that is growing tremendously, we don't need anymore families with 6-kids.
Others say: You are selfish for taking the life of someone else's. Be it that they were alive or not alive in the womb, it was a possible life on this earth - and you are selfish for being the person that gets to decide if they live or not.
Personally, I don't quite identify with either of those.
My opinion: I don't know if I sway one way or another as far as the whole "selfish" clause is concerned. However, I will definitely vouch that having an abortion when you are struggling to pay for your own life is definitely a step in the "accountability/responsibility" direction.
...What if it was your kid? I would say that is most certainly your business.
Part of the reason I fucking loathe the whole "MY BODY, MY CHOICE" phrase that feminist love to spit out their disgusting mouths. God forbid you consider the other half that is responsible for the kid too. No no no, you're the box that holds it, so you get to be the sole decision maker
[she gets] to be the sole decision maker
I vote nobody's business what her reasoning is but her own. Since it's a completely lawful action it doesn't matter why she does it.
None of the above. It's a decision a woman makes for herself for her own personal reasons. Nothing else. It is not responsible or irresponsible.
Exactly.
What is your justification for a woman getting the sole decision - with zero input from the father - as to if she should or should not abort a baby?
What, because she is the fucking box that holds the life? That's the only reason?
What is your justification for a woman getting the sole decision - with zero input from the father - as to if she should or should not abort a baby? What, because she is the fucking box that holds the life? That's the only reason?
i think a forum full of mostly men discussing women's reproductive choices is hilarious.
I believe I'm fully qualified to do so because I have a financial interest in it. You don't believe the lie that taxpayers aren't funding abortions do you?i think a forum full of mostly men discussing women's reproductive choices is hilarious.
She's a person, not a box, you dehumanizing asshole.
If a man can be forced to pay support for a child that is not his, he absolutely should have a say under the circumstances you described.I agree with you about the box comment, but i think his overall point has merit for discussion. I would like to see fathers have some say in the matter. It is also his child she is aborting. What if the father would like to take sole custody of the child and raise it himself (assuming they were just dating), and would pay for all medical etc for her to carry it to term.
I know their are lots of variables and scenarios this can play out in. But i think men should have some say, but maybe not the final say.