Is Fox news like the worst news in USA - Accuses china of being cheap to Haiti..

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I don't see the problem here.

Is this some OP knee-jerk reaction that everything Fox says must suck? I think this is a great point made by Fox; individuals in the US have given more money that China did. Why would this be moronic to point this out?

I am not really a big fan of Fox - I do like Shep Smith though - but I think the objective reality here is that the Fox news guys made a decent point in calling out China being some cheap bastards who are held to different standards.


Why is the news on China? did you guys hear about that pastor/reverend guy saying that Haiti was cursed and deserved it? just cuz they practiced voodoo and worshipped the devil? now that is moronic...
if giving money makes you a better person or a better country; what are the other countries contributing? let's compare that.

and have you contributed? all this talk; how many posters on here actually donated?
 

DrunkenSano

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China is certainly cheap, not giving nearly enough money. And I get the feeling that any 'supplies' that come from China will end up killing more people, knowing the quality of their country's leftover products.
 

Zstream

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Why is the news on China? did you guys hear about that pastor/reverend guy saying that Haiti was cursed and deserved it? just cuz they practiced voodoo and worshipped the devil? now that is moronic...
if giving money makes you a better person or a better country; what are the other countries contributing? let's compare that.

and have you contributed? all this talk; how many posters on here actually donated?

We donated over 8 billion dollars... Nice try on spin though.
 

maziwanka

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who the fuck cares how much china has donated? was the fox news point made as a response to another point? if it was out of the blue, it's just stupid. we're not fucking donating to haiti to win a competition against other nations
 

dmcowen674

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SCOTUS classified the entire network as entertainment?

not sure about that, Dave. I know the oxy-popping porcine idol Limbaugh once claimed himself as an entertainment promoter, and nothing more...but I've never heard of a constitutionally-obligated institution declaring a major network as entertainment.

that's a bit too silly....

It was a Florida court and did not get much media coverage, wonder why.

Here is a couple of links

Court Ruling Fox News Has a First Amendment Right to Lie

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Cour...ight+to+Lie&start=10&sa=N&fp=e8d6ef47431c6a4a

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/21/388541/-Why-IS-there-a-Right-to-Lie

February 14, 2003



The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted "law, rule, or regulation."
In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that
the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy."
Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly.
 
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who the fuck cares how much china has donated? was the fox news point made as a response to another point? if it was out of the blue, it's just stupid. we're not fucking donating to haiti to win a competition against other nations


i agree. it's not a competition...cheap, not cheap...whatever...at least they donated and they did something.
 

JS80

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no, what you dont get is that governments paying lip service is the norm. everyone is just hating on china because they're going to be the next superpower

china will never be a superpower. the chinamen are weak and cheap, and have no creativity. The west will always invent the new LED superTVawesome tech while the chinamen pay their people $1 to put together sandals and electronics. Trust me on this.
 

Babbles

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Why is the news on China? did you guys hear about that pastor/reverend guy saying that Haiti was cursed and deserved it? just cuz they practiced voodoo and worshipped the devil? now that is moronic...
if giving money makes you a better person or a better country; what are the other countries contributing? let's compare that.

and have you contributed? all this talk; how many posters on here actually donated?

I can barely comprehend this post, much less ascertain what the point of it is. I'll take a stab at it, though. First off, what other people have said (i.e. idiotic Pat Robertson) is completely irrelevant. Fox's argument was solely that China contributed essentially nothing, strikingly so when compared to individual contributors in the United States. Anything brought in outside of that point is irrelevant. Additionally, yes giving money and assisting those that need help does in fact make a person and country better. Doing nothing makes one an asshat.
 

senseamp

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Didn't we borrow money from China to donate to Haiti? It's not like we are ever going to repay it, so it's basically China donating it to Haiti directly
 

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What's funny is that the first couple days after the quake, Fox had nobody on the ground in Haiti, they were all in Florida or Puerto Rico waiting for transportation, and CNN had multiple people on the ground doing reports.
Fox was saying people need to give to private organizations, because govts can't do anything.
CNN's Sanjay Gupta is actually doing brain surgery on a victim, what exactly has Fox done for anyone in Haiti?
 

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I was seriously surprised when I heard they only donated 1 mil, while the US 10, not im hearing 100 for the US and 5 for china. 5 millions dollars.... in terms of a country, even as poor as haiti, that is chump change.... its almost like china is handing a begger on the street some loose change.

china should be doing more, especially with home much money they have. even if they donate 500 million, even 1 billion, its not even a lot (relative to how much they have)....
 

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What's funny is that the first couple days after the quake, Fox had nobody on the ground in Haiti, they were all in Florida or Puerto Rico waiting for transportation, and CNN had multiple people on the ground doing reports.
Fox was saying people need to give to private organizations, because govts can't do anything.
CNN's Sanjay Gupta is actually doing brain surgery on a victim, what exactly has Fox done for anyone in Haiti?


stop trying to detail the thread. this is fox news on haiti, not fox news and cnn.....
 
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I can barely comprehend this post, much less ascertain what the point of it is. I'll take a stab at it, though. First off, what other people have said (i.e. idiotic Pat Robertson) is completely irrelevant. Fox's argument was solely that China contributed essentially nothing, strikingly so when compared to individual contributors in the United States. Anything brought in outside of that point is irrelevant. Additionally, yes giving money and assisting those that need help does in fact make a person and country better. Doing nothing makes one an asshat.

so...when US donated $500k to China's earthquake back in the days...they (USA) weren't cheap? but were better just cuz they donated? based on that argument, china also donated to haiti, but is still marked as cheap?

oh wait, china is a superpower, they don't need funds from other countries when disasters hit...
i'm for the US and yes, china is cheap, but we shouldn't bad mouth china either. keep it to ourselves; thats the thing with US citizens, we think we're the shit but we're nothing but hypocrits...
 

Dari

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so...when US donated $500k to China's earthquake back in the days...they (USA) weren't cheap? but were better just cuz they donated? based on that argument, china also donated to haiti, but is still marked as cheap?

oh wait, china is a superpower, they don't need funds from other countries when disasters hit...
i'm for the US and yes, china is cheap, but we shouldn't bad mouth china either. keep it to ourselves; thats the thing with US citizens, we think we're the shit but we're nothing but hypocrits...

What is wrong with constructive criticism? This isn't Asia where you aren't allowed to speak your mind.
 

Babbles

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so...when US donated $500k to China's earthquake back in the days...they (USA) weren't cheap? but were better just cuz they donated? based on that argument, china also donated to haiti, but is still marked as cheap?

oh wait, china is a superpower, they don't need funds from other countries when disasters hit...
i'm for the US and yes, china is cheap, but we shouldn't bad mouth china either. keep it to ourselves; thats the thing with US citizens, we think we're the shit but we're nothing but hypocrits...

So we'll have to try a little critical thinking here. First off to compare the infrastructure and wealth between Haiti and China is mindboggling stupid; how can you seriously relate the stability of the two countries? This is important because of the nature of the aid that countries can reasonably expect to receive. In essence we can reasonably assume that any wealthy stable nation can support themselves through a disaster. Is China relatively wealthy and stable, at least when compared to Haiti?

Additionally flooding China with U.S. dollars would be sorta goofy since they own U.S. t-bonds; would almost akin to be writing yourself a check to deposit money in your own checking account - money just goes in circles. Furthermore while the official government donation was $500k, per the NYT the U.S. donated over $700k in supplies (which was probably more important than cash) and private U.S. organization donated in excess of $20 million. Therefore when you look at total aid from the U.S. to china for the earthquake, the reality is that over $20 million was donated, not $500k.
http://questions.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/qa-the-earthquake-in-china/

There is already a greatly larger estimated dead in Haiti compared to China, and furthermore the government of Haiti was literally destroyed. There may not be anybody alive in the Haitian legislature. China's government did not absolutely collapse after their earthquake, did it? The point being this is a far more severe event and as such would reasonable necessitate greater resources. Also China refused much of the offered outside help.

You should not call people hyprocrites when comparing these two situations. As absolutely shocking as it may be for you, these are different situations and different situations will results in different means and ends. Do not look at one situation and think simply because it shares some facet of another incident that therefore it can be compared to any and all future incidents. That's a good way to get bitten in your ass as you go through life.

Finally I will damn well badmouth China (and the U.S., and any country) if they deserve it. In this instance I think the Chinese government deserves it.
 
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What is wrong with constructive criticism? This isn't Asia where you aren't allowed to speak your mind.

nothing wrong with it...just that everyone besides the US hates the US for their criticism...US tends to forget that there is a world out there other than our own (US).
just trying to wake people in the US up...respect one today; they will help you tomorrow. be an ass today, you get shit tomorrow.
 
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