Is Fox news like the worst news in USA - Accuses china of being cheap to Haiti..

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Babbles

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BmXlvmJROo

I mean WTF is that? Totally biased and moronic talking.

I don't see the problem here.

Is this some OP knee-jerk reaction that everything Fox says must suck? I think this is a great point made by Fox; individuals in the US have given more money that China did. Why would this be moronic to point this out?

I am not really a big fan of Fox - I do like Shep Smith though - but I think the objective reality here is that the Fox news guys made a decent point in calling out China being some cheap bastards who are held to different standards.
 

metalmania

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US only donated $500K last year during the Sichuan earthquake in China, and now US has over $100M to Haiti. I see cheap here.
 

Riceninja

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US only donated $500K last year during the Sichuan earthquake in China, and now US has over $100M to Haiti. I see cheap here.

fucking +1 to this.

following the sichuan earthquake:

united states gave 500k
germany, 800k
britain, 2 mil

and my company donated more than all of poland.

funny how i never saw see fox news crying about this?
 

Dari

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fucking +1 to this.

following the sichuan earthquake:

united states gave 500k
germany, 800k
britain, 2 mil

and my company donated more than all of poland.

funny how i never saw see fox news crying about this?

Because China is not a poor, backward country. They have the resources to help themselves.

In this case, China is cheap and China sucks balls. I will never want to live in a place that values human life so cheaply. If I was Haitian, I'd be concerned about the 'humanitarian' supplies they get from the Chinese. It is most definitely tainted with something.
 

Riceninja

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no, what you dont get is that governments paying lip service is the norm. everyone is just hating on china because they're going to be the next superpower
 

Dari

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no, what you dont get is that governments paying lip service is the norm. everyone is just hating on china because they're going to be the next superpower

Doubtful. China has never been a superpower and they will never be with this insecure, brittle government. They have usually been a conquered people. Paranoia and distrust of your own citizens is not a good way to govern. Perhaps with a new government the Chinese people will realize their full potential. But not with the way things are.

EDIT: But if you want to be a superpower like the USSR, fine by us. Good on the outside but crummy on the inside. Living a lie.
 
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Nik

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Sticks and stones.

It's China's money, not FoxNews'.

Oh noes, an failed american news agency called China cheap, what ever will China do...
 

ChrisIsBored

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This argument is frivolous without the proper facts. I'm not going to try to sway any idiots judgments one way or another but simply post some relevant information.

Per Capita GDP by Country (PPP)
10___United States_____$ 47,500 2008 est.
133__China____________$ 6,000 2008 est.
Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

$ Funding, committed and uncommitted to Haiti
United States____$100,150,000
China___________$10,405,286
Source: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tMozJlQiN8ftSj0s8tLx31g&output=html

China itself as a whole may have one of the largest economies on the globe, but that doesn't mean they're anywhere near as rich as the United State in comparison.

If you alone make $50k/yr annually, and donate $1k or 2% of your income to charity... and your neighbor who supports 3 kids and makes 25k/yr annually and donates $500 or 2%, do you still sit there acting smug because you perceive yourself as doing more good than your neighbor?

Here's some food for thought...

Population & $ Donated per person based on Gov't Donations
Sweden___________9249000_____1.96581900746027
Luxembourg_________486000_____1.48744855967078
Denmark___________5470000_____1.34854533820841
Guyana_____________762000_____1.31233595800525
Norway____________4812000_____1.02646321695761
Estonia____________1340000_____0.74626865671642
United Kingdom____61565000_____0.48728985624949
Australia__________21293000_____0.42233626074297
Finland____________5326000_____0.3386691701089
United States_____314659000_____0.31828105981396

Overall, Govt donations are only a partial % of worldwide figures given the generosity of individuals and organizations who give to charitable foundations that are properly organized to assist in crises like this.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Fox news is not actually news.

The Supreme Court classified them as an Entertainment show.

SCOTUS classified the entire network as entertainment?

not sure about that, Dave. I know the oxy-popping porcine idol Limbaugh once claimed himself as an entertainment promoter, and nothing more...but I've never heard of a constitutionally-obligated institution declaring a major network as entertainment.

that's a bit too silly....
 

darkamulets

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That's not the case at all. The issue now is the fact that Haiti has no standing infrastructure. It's hard to even get in there due to lack of fuel, shipping infrastructure, and even air traffic control. The solution requires manpower, and the US is stepping up on that like no one else. I would suggest the US is stepping up in a way that no one else is capable of doing, but that would just make me an arrogant American, wouldn't it?

Trust me, with the lull in the American housing market, there are excess construction materials. I doubt we have to manufacture much of it. We just have to clear the way to actually get it into Haiti.

You make it sound as if they country had a bunch going for it initially. After having spent enough time down there, I can assure it was pretty bad previously. After this it'll probably be better than it was before after this huge injection of cash. Haiti could of used all of this money before the earthquake though, just like any other 3rd world country. This is just the media's number 1 source of news since everything else is pretty slow it would seem.
 

Fritzo

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Yeah, Fox is like "News produced by daytime talk TV producers". They can't just have news- that's boring. They have to have news that is exciting and controversal. If they can't find anything like that they make their own.
 

Kirby

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Apr 10, 2006
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Haitians would better off with nothing than Chinese supplies. What's the point of rebuilding when it's twice as dangerous as it was before?
 
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geno

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As someone who doesn't care for Fox much I have to say that China sucks 1000x more than Fox and they hit it right on the head this time.

Seriously, China is being a cheap bitch.

Agreed, who can be mad at Fox for reporting this? China is the one who is sucking and Fox (who normally really, really sucks) is calling it like it is.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Sticks and stones.

It's China's money, not FoxNews'.

Oh noes, an failed american news agency called China cheap, what ever will China do...

Hehe, next few days Talking Heads on FN will likely decry the Government Spending Their $ on Haiti. I can almost guarantee they'll work both ends of this issue.
 
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