Yes. I am pissed off.
Haha, I haven't been here to the site since I last posted and only saw your response to me now.I'm sorry, but this is explicitly false; you even contradicted yourself in this very statement.
You may acknowledge that "hardly any" agree with you, but you generally try to frame every discussion not just as if the Bible is a universally accepted truth, but that your particular interpretation of it is a universal truth. You do know many Christians don't expect a rapture, right?
And yes, this includes your attempts to persuade others (despite your incorrect claims, that's what you're trying). You just said "for the unsaved out there, what should concern you is..." you're arguing as if fear of being unsaved matters to us. If I have no reason to believe in any gods, why would I have that fear?
The issue is that you aren't really willing to consider the non-religious mindset in discussions. Frankly, it's clear you're uncomfortable with taking even a partially detached view of things, as if really, truly accepting that others don't share your beliefs is tantamount to rejecting those beliefs yourself. It is possible to maintain full conviction while being genuinely considerate of others who don't share that conviction; I just wish you'd actually try.
Provide a single shred of objective evidence God exists. Just one bit of evidence. Quoting a book written 1,50o years ago that was written by men and has so many inconsistencies in content is not proof.Haha, I haven't been here to the site since I last posted and only saw your response to me now.
I'm not sure why you are so intent to try to disprove the idea that you are directly arguing with God Himself rather than me when you try to point out errors in what I write. Whether you agree or not is one thing, but for the most part my entire line of posting has been consistent: share what God has said in the bible as it relates to the topics brought up in conversation here in this thread (by quoting His word directly), along with restating/illustrating those concepts in any given post or correcting errors (like your recent statement) here and there.
Go back to my most recent response a few posts up on this page and skim over what I shared with vjeltz. I literally quoted twelve sections from bible, which represented 80%+ of what I typed in that response. The other 20% was simply pointing out how those verses connect with the discussion. That's why I scratch my head with the way you are avoiding how I've been presenting these posts. I prefer to accept what God is telling me here:
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Matthew 10:19-20
"...do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."
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Do you see now? Let's say a person posted a thread here that he tries to live his life by Dr. Seuss' book "Green Eggs and Ham" and he then responds to the conversations that followed with quotes from the book. He might then point out how good it is to eat green eggs and ham in a house and with a mouse, etc. In the end, it makes no sense for you to focus on those observations coming from him when the original source is the true influence encouraging everyone to see things in that way.
So whether I ever existed or not, God is still compelling everyone who has, who is, or who will ever exist to hear what He is saying in His bible. Focusing this all on me and what you claim about what I am trying to do is an attempt to avoid what is really going on, which is that the Lord wants a relationship with you in the manner that he prescribes it, and He will continue communicate that to you in many ways until your time in this life is over (with me or without me).
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Revelation 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me."
~~~~~
Spiritually speaking, the bible teaches that once we are saved the Lord dines on the "fruit" that our lives produces (kindness, self control from sin, love, joy, etc. from Galatians 5 and elsewhere), and that the born-again Christian dines on His every word (Matthew 4:4). So anything I write that is in agreement with His word means He gets all the credit. Anything I write that contradicts His word means that I get all the blame.
tl;dr: When it comes to anything discussed about this life and beyond, it's not about me whatsoever. It's only about your Creator. My goal in my responses to anyone is not to post what I think on a topic, but what God has said on that topic.
I'm not sure why you are so intent to try to disprove the idea that you are directly arguing with God Himself rather than me when you try to point out errors in what I write.
tl;dr: When it comes to anything discussed about this life and beyond, it's not about me whatsoever. It's only about your Creator.
Two and a half years to come up with a response and this is the best you could do?Haha, I haven't been here to the site since I last posted and only saw your response to me now.
I'm not sure why you are so intent to try to disprove the idea that you are directly arguing with God Himself rather than me when you try to point out errors in what I write. Whether you agree or not is one thing, but for the most part my entire line of posting has been consistent: share what God has said in the bible as it relates to the topics brought up in conversation here in this thread (by quoting His word directly), along with restating/illustrating those concepts in any given post or correcting errors (like your recent statement) here and there.
Go back to my most recent response a few posts up on this page and skim over what I shared with vjeltz. I literally quoted twelve sections from bible, which represented 80%+ of what I typed in that response. The other 20% was simply pointing out how those verses connect with the discussion. That's why I scratch my head with the way you are avoiding how I've been presenting these posts. I prefer to accept what God is telling me here:
~~~~~
Matthew 10:19-20
"...do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."
~~~~~
Do you see now? Let's say a person posted a thread here that he tries to live his life by Dr. Seuss' book "Green Eggs and Ham" and he then responds to the conversations that followed with quotes from the book. He might then point out how good it is to eat green eggs and ham in a house and with a mouse, etc. In the end, it makes no sense for you to focus on those observations coming from him when the original source is the true influence encouraging everyone to see things in that way.
So whether I ever existed or not, God is still compelling everyone who has, who is, or who will ever exist to hear what He is saying in His bible. Focusing this all on me and what you claim about what I am trying to do is an attempt to avoid what is really going on, which is that the Lord wants a relationship with you in the manner that he prescribes it, and He will continue communicate that to you in many ways until your time in this life is over (with me or without me).
~~~~~
Revelation 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me."
~~~~~
Spiritually speaking, the bible teaches that once we are saved the Lord dines on the "fruit" that our lives produces (kindness, self control from sin, love, joy, etc. from Galatians 5 and elsewhere), and that the born-again Christian dines on His every word (Matthew 4:4). So anything I write that is in agreement with His word means He gets all the credit. Anything I write that contradicts His word means that I get all the blame.
tl;dr: When it comes to anything discussed about this life and beyond, it's not about me whatsoever. It's only about your Creator. My goal in my responses to anyone is not to post what I think on a topic, but what God has said on that topic.
Old Testament: God creates the universe and he sees it and it's serious business, but then Satan pretends to be a snake and trolls Eve, telling her "Apple or GTFO" (cuz she's already showing tits) she chooses the former and then her and her fuck buddy Adam get b& from Eden for being troll bait. Then alot of serious fucking incest occurs and we get the human race (which explains alot, really)
Then later, God gets uber pissed about Pharaoh Hitler for pwning the Jews, so he gives Moses some cheat codes for the universe. Moses stages a mass slave runaway and opens the sea so the Jews can run through, closing it behind him and drowning the ancient Nazis. God lol'd.
Some other less important shit happens, mostly composed of a bunch of bundles of sticks writing emo poetry about God for him to fap to.
New Testament: God finds Mary sleeping and just sticks the tip in and drops his load. Nine months later, Jesus is born. For his 13th birthday, God gave Jesus more cheat codes then he gave Moses, plus the
rcon password for life.
Later, Jesus became a hardcore ska punk and trolled the old school jews hard. They got super pissed and permabanned him with a cross and some nine inch nails. They forgot he had God Mode turned on though, so he waited 2 days and hit vid_restart on the rcon panel, came back into lifes server, and laughed at the jews.
After that, 3 more guys tell the same story, then this bundle of sticks Paul wrote an assload of shit about sex being evil and a bunch of other stuff that Jesus never fucking said but everybody listened to Paul anyway because they're stupid.
The End
I like this about swearing an oath on the bible, of all books.This will always be the GOAT definition of the bible -
Truly a classic. I always like the observation -don't recall which comedian made it and paraphrasing here- That at the head of every religion is a bunch of dudes in funny hats.I like this about swearing an oath on the bible, of all books.
Probably George Carlin. Comedian, philosopher, prophet, whatever ya wanna call him.Truly a classic. I always like the observation -don't recall which comedian made it and paraphrasing here- That at the head of every religion is a bunch of dudes in funny hats.
Just popped back in for a second.Yes. I am pissed off.
I resemble that ape remark good sirJust popped back in for a second.
You apes calling this getting your shit together?
Next time I pop in and shit still this shit I am gonna turn this thing off and on again.
LOL! First, one sentence from a verse is meaningless, and generally taken out of context and can be subject to thousands of interpretations. You have to show the full chapter/passage, so you can put that sentence in it's proper context per the bible. What have done is written your personal beliefs of your interpretation of that one sentence, not the actual full passage. And your interpetations are molded by your church's/Pastor's teachings.Haha, I haven't been here to the site since I last posted and only saw your response to me now.
I'm not sure why you are so intent to try to disprove the idea that you are directly arguing with God Himself rather than me when you try to point out errors in what I write. Whether you agree or not is one thing, but for the most part my entire line of posting has been consistent: share what God has said in the bible as it relates to the topics brought up in conversation here in this thread (by quoting His word directly), along with restating/illustrating those concepts in any given post or correcting errors (like your recent statement) here and there.
Go back to my most recent response a few posts up on this page and skim over what I shared with vjeltz. I literally quoted twelve sections from bible, which represented 80%+ of what I typed in that response. The other 20% was simply pointing out how those verses connect with the discussion. That's why I scratch my head with the way you are avoiding how I've been presenting these posts. I prefer to accept what God is telling me here:
~~~~~
Matthew 10:19-20
"...do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."
~~~~~
Do you see now? Let's say a person posted a thread here that he tries to live his life by Dr. Seuss' book "Green Eggs and Ham" and he then responds to the conversations that followed with quotes from the book. He might then point out how good it is to eat green eggs and ham in a house and with a mouse, etc. In the end, it makes no sense for you to focus on those observations coming from him when the original source is the true influence encouraging everyone to see things in that way.
So whether I ever existed or not, God is still compelling everyone who has, who is, or who will ever exist to hear what He is saying in His bible. Focusing this all on me and what you claim about what I am trying to do is an attempt to avoid what is really going on, which is that the Lord wants a relationship with you in the manner that he prescribes it, and He will continue communicate that to you in many ways until your time in this life is over (with me or without me).
~~~~~
Revelation 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me."
~~~~~
Spiritually speaking, the bible teaches that once we are saved the Lord dines on the "fruit" that our lives produces (kindness, self control from sin, love, joy, etc. from Galatians 5 and elsewhere), and that the born-again Christian dines on His every word (Matthew 4:4). So anything I write that is in agreement with His word means He gets all the credit. Anything I write that contradicts His word means that I get all the blame.
tl;dr: When it comes to anything discussed about this life and beyond, it's not about me whatsoever. It's only about your Creator. My goal in my responses to anyone is not to post what I think on a topic, but what God has said on that topic.
That is easy.Provide a single shred of objective evidence God exists. Just one bit of evidence. Quoting a book written 1,50o years ago that was written by men and has so many inconsistencies in content is not proof.
Why is your Bible any more objectively proof of God that the Bhagavad Gita?
Don’t quote the Bible. Provide proof and evidence. It is the responsibility of the claimant to provide proof.
Hmm.. While empathy is built in evolutionary hardware it doesnt seem implausible that you'd begin to ascribe x y and z to the same cause and effect parameters as the flock you're travelling with. I think we do this with horses and clicker training .That is easy.
Just go to church, a good one, not that crap ones. You know what I mean.
Go as an atheist, tell them flat out your an atheist. If it is a good church, nobody is going to care. They also should not try to overtly convert you. They will probably invite you to join the choir. A good church does not care what you believe, but will try to pull you into their social community.
Get involved it the stuff that actually matters, the food program. Or the clothing program. Or the elderly transport program. Just pick one.
It will not be long before you will see God manifest in the relationships between people. It will be so blindingly obvious you will not be able to ignore it.
At that point, you will need to decide just how much umph your going to give that God. After all, that God, well, is nothing like the traditional view of God. But Love can do a lot. Infinite? Well, that is up for you to decide. Worthy of worship? Up to you to choose. Actually a deity? Well, it creates, nurtures, and heals. What are you looking for, hellfire and damnation?
Why would I do that? I can do those things without going to a church and listen to non provable faith biased stuff.That is easy.
Just go to church, a good one, not that crap ones. You know what I mean.
Go as an atheist, tell them flat out your an atheist. If it is a good church, nobody is going to care. They also should not try to overtly convert you. They will probably invite you to join the choir. A good church does not care what you believe, but will try to pull you into their social community.
Get involved it the stuff that actually matters, the food program. Or the clothing program. Or the elderly transport program. Just pick one.
It will not be long before you will see God manifest in the relationships between people. It will be so blindingly obvious you will not be able to ignore it.
At that point, you will need to decide just how much umph your going to give that God. After all, that God, well, is nothing like the traditional view of God. But Love can do a lot. Infinite? Well, that is up for you to decide. Worthy of worship? Up to you to choose. Actually a deity? Well, it creates, nurtures, and heals. What are you looking for, hellfire and damnation?
Great, now you are summoning Braznor.Why would I do that? I can do those things without going to a church and listen to non provable faith biased stuff.
You didn’t answer my question. Provide a single shred of objective proof there is a god. Why do I have to go to a church? Why not a synagogue or a mosque or hindu temple?
I am sure your priest and worshippers objectively discuss the passages of the Bible from its translations and word origin, to it being written by man, to its often similarities to neighboring cultural historical myths or why there is the need to create expectations of controlled behavior, in- groups and out-groups, tithing etc.
Provide a single testable proof of God. Otherwise you are just repeating faith based stuff no more valid than any other religion or spaghetti monster in the sky.
Dogma to millions.Definition of god? Super-being having control over nature, universe, life, death, human fortunes, misfortunes that people worship? Superstition to me.