Yes, I greatly prefer side strafing/bunny hopping/camping my way to "PWNING F*CKING N00BS" before being regaled with whatever taunts are big in the 7th grade at the moment.
It was just like every other single player FPS. Boring with a few gimmicks.
Man, not me. I find Fallout 1 & 2 to be unplayable
Yes, I greatly prefer side strafing/bunny hopping/camping my way to "PWNING F*CKING N00BS" before being regaled with whatever taunts are big in the 7th grade at the moment.
"I hate things that are popular so half life 2 sucks." -hipster gamers.
I love this revisionist doom 3 history that this thread is bringing out. People reviled doom 3 at the time and I remember getting shit for even saying it was a decent game. Now its cool to say Doom 3 is better than half life 2 which is just stupid. Effing hipsters.
"I hate things that are popular so half life 2 sucks." -hipster gamers.
I love this revisionist doom 3 history that this thread is bringing out. People reviled doom 3 at the time and I remember getting shit for even saying it was a decent game. Now its cool to say Doom 3 is better than half life 2 which is just stupid. Effing hipsters.
"I hate things that are popular so half life 2 sucks." -hipster gamers.
I love this revisionist doom 3 history that this thread is bringing out. People reviled doom 3 at the time and I remember getting shit for even saying it was a decent game. Now its cool to say Doom 3 is better than half life 2 which is just stupid. Effing hipsters.
I've tried to decipher this, but had no success. Throwing a bunch of cliches together into one incomprehensible slaughter of a sentence doesn't make an argument.
Strafing? If you don't strafe in single player, you will have trouble.
Try "bunny hopping" in BF4 and you will be absolutely annihilated. Huge penalty to aiming.
Camping? Can't capture enemy points or complete objectives while camping. This goes for both BF and TF2.
It looks as though you got crushed 10 years ago in a singular online multiplayer FPS and have been scared of it ever since.
Single player FPSs have been boring crapfests since the beginning o time.
This says everything about your preference in gameplay and nothing about the game.
People who aren't into single-player FPS shouldn't even be in this thread. I don't like MMOs, so I don't post in threads about them. It's none of my business to jump into the latest MMO thread and ridicule people who do.
It's conceivable to me that other gamers might have different tastes than me, and that (gasp) there isn't anything wrong with that.
Do you always get this upset when someone doesn't like your favourite computer game?
People need to accept that Half Life isn't some noble sacred cow that everyone should be worshipping.
Don't take it personally, I just thought your statement that "all single player fps are boring and just have a gimmick" was worth being shown for an opinion that can cut both ways. Those same generalizations can be flung onto multiplayer FPS; "They're spam fests", "They're ruled by 12 year olds with potty mouths", "TKers and griefers are everywhere" , etc.
My problem with Multiplayer FPS is that I'm now reliant on (usually) strangers to make my gaming time worthwhile. I don't like that, and don't generally have the time for it.
Sometimes you'll get lucky and have a great group and an amazing experience. Other times it's infested with teenagers, racists, and poor sports, and the experience suffers.
If you have a very limited time window in which to play games, and you need to maximize your "fun" potential, I dislike the "Russian roulette" style crap shoot of whether or not I'll have fun, or it'll be ruined by assholes.
This says everything about your preference in gameplay and nothing about the game.
People who aren't into single-player FPS shouldn't even be in this thread. I don't like MMOs, so I don't post in threads about them. It's none of my business to jump into the latest MMO thread and ridicule people who do.
It's conceivable to me that other gamers might have different tastes than me, and that (gasp) there isn't anything wrong with that.
This isn't the first time either. Check the discussions in the Hardline thread. Though most people seem to be treating that one as a MP game (and having a MP beta doesn't help it) because it's a BF game. But either way I am not a big fan of demeaning people and their preferred forms of entertainment just because it might not be what I enjoy. Oddly enough it's those same people who get overly defensive when their niche is called into question.
It's not about having thicker skin or not. Whether I or anyone would take actual offense to what you said or not doesn't matter. It is just easy to seem worked up about something when just basically what was a side comment, on a forum. The fact is you did comment on the type of people and their culture or exposure in a negative light while attempting to strengthen your point of view on your preference. That was meant to be demeaning at some level, maybe you thought of it as a jovial elbow nudge to the stomach. But it was an attempt demean or belittle someone for playing a game-style you don't enjoy. It doesn't take me or anyone else to feel demeaned for your post to be demeaning."demeaning people"
It is only demeaning if you choose to feel demeaned. Time to get harder skin if you feel demeaned by how others view video games that you like. That or avoid forums.
I don't have an issue with your taste, I have an issue with revising the past due to your hipster ideals.
It's not about having thicker skin or not. Whether I or anyone would take actual offense to what you said or not doesn't matter. It is just easy to seem worked up about something when just basically what was a side comment, on a forum. The fact is you did comment on the type of people and their culture or exposure in a negative light while attempting to strengthen your point of view on your preference. That was meant to be demeaning at some level, maybe you thought of it as a jovial elbow nudge to the stomach. But it was an attempt demean or belittle someone for playing a game-style you don't enjoy. It doesn't take me or anyone else to feel demeaned for your post to be demeaning.
Glad it's not just me - as I was beginning to think it was. lolYeah, for all the godlike praise these 2 games get, they're actually quite shallow. I've tried Fallout 1 on five different playthroughs, and I could never get past Junktown before getting bored out of my wits.
lol +1This says everything about your preference in gameplay and nothing about the game.
People who aren't into single-player FPS shouldn't even be in this thread. I don't like MMOs, so I don't post in threads about them. It's none of my business to jump into the latest MMO thread and ridicule people who do.
It's conceivable to me that other gamers might have different tastes than me, and that (gasp) there isn't anything wrong with that.
I'll have to try that. I'm always looking for another good, cheap shooter to sit in my Steam library in the hopes of one day playing it.Best FPS i've played. Atmospheric, story is cool, gameplay tight, lots of action.
The other shooter I really enjoyed for it's story was Singularity.
Unfortunately, it doesn't cut both ways.
"Sometimes you'll get lucky and have a great group and an amazing experience. Other times it's infested with teenagers, racists, and poor sports, and the experience suffers."- This is demonstrably not true. Every single time I play, I communicate via voip, and others work together with me. I have not encountered a SINGLE racist in my squads in over 300 hours of BF4, for example.
Single player FPSs on the other hand, are always pedestrian experiences. played one and you've played them all. unlike other genres, which can have fantastic single player experiences, FPS games are pretty much all the same.
"I dislike the "Russian roulette" style crap shoot of whether or not I'll have fun, or it'll be ruined by assholes" - Find some servers with settings that you like. If it is a game like CS or TF2, pick a server with good admins, or become active enough with a group that you can become an admin. For a game like BF4, look for squads with decent players and be active and use VOIP to coordinate things. It is as simple as that. Play PC and avoid consoles if you want quality people. Also, pick teamwork oriented games and avoid deathmatch style or games without BUILT IN voip(so everyone can participate).
So your anecdotes can beat up my anecdotes?
You're being silly, defensive and pedantic. Because you claim not to have experienced these rampant issues, or have the free time available to coordinate with groups of trusted people, in no way whatsoever invalidates any of my experiences or assertions.
I have around a thousand combined hours between Left 4 Dead and L4D 2. Hundreds in Arma, DayZ, Battlefield, Bad Company, and around half a dozen others going back to the MSN Gaming Zone days on dial-up.
I've been around the block.
You simply cannot refute the fact that in MP your fun is still largely dependent on other people making the experience worthwhile, and if you're someone who doesn't have hours on end to devote to finding the right group every night, sorry, it's still a crap shoot. I can't TELL you the number if times in L4D, an older CO-OP game, it has been ruined by a TKer suddenly turning and gunning everyone down inches from the safe room door. Or "nerd generals" incessantly trying to order everyone around, and then getting audibly upset when things don't go their way or someone doesn't follow orders.
And don't even get me started on DayZ.
Sorry, my time is more valuable than that. If I can prearrange a game with steam friends, sure, more than likely we'll have a blast.
But your asinine assertion that these things just don't happen is only trumped by your saying that all single player FPS are the same.
If that's your preference, fine, more power to you, but bombastically attacking anyone who points out experiences that contradict you aren't winning you any arguments.
I am not offended. Because I know where it is coming from. I am not even perturbed and in the previous thread was only hoping to open your eyes.I really have no idea what you are going on about. If you seek to be offended, then you will find what you are looking for.
You actually admitting that you were in fact marginalizing their experience. Based on your opinion.I marginalized the story because the stories in videogames are 99/9% absolute garbage. The worst tv shows out there have better stories than some of the best videogame "stories" imo. This even includes the adventure genre.
. I think people just have no clue what a good story is, and haven't read a good book or seen a good tv show, etc.
I am not offended. Because I know where it is coming from. I am not even perturbed and in the previous thread was only hoping to open your eyes.
But it's not hard to see your attempts to either belittle their expierence
You actually admitting that you were in fact marginalizing their experience. Based on your opinion.
Then there is this gem also in-regards to people enjoy SP FPS games.
Again people don't have to take offense to it. It doesn't have to super sharp or really mean spirited for someone to see for what it is. It is a demeaning comment about the type of people in your mind that would play an FPS SP game.
In your opinion for good reason. But if you really stand by it then don't back pedal or try to push it off as a sensitivity thing. It was meant to be demeaning just own up to it. You don't care for SP FPS games and the people who would play them.You are entitled to your opinion. I stand by what I said. It is how I feel about the genre and for good reason.
In your opinion for good reason. But if you really stand by it then don't back pedal or try to push it off as a sensitivity thing. It was meant to be demeaning just own up to it. You don't care for SP FPS games and the people who would play them.
Which makes me wonder why you would come into a SP FPS thread, even if it was about whether it was as good as people remembered? You already have decided that it was crap like the other 99% of SP FPS's, it's a type of game you detest in the first place. Does that kind of invalidate your opinion on the matter?