Is Homosexuality a fundamental freedom and universal human right

[rudeguy]

I am sure you and your special penis tell that to all of the guys.

I just choked on my sub


:biggrin:

This place is a debate club that encourages personal attacks. Don't take any of it personal. Most people that post here are just trying to get others to look at things through a new pair of glasses. We all have views that make others sick. We all see things in others that makes us sick. It doesn't mean we hate each other, it means we a different.

And human.

 

[UberNeuman]

I just choked on my sub


:biggrin:

This place is a debate club that encourages personal attacks. Don't take any of it personal. Most people that post here are just trying to get others to look at things through a new pair of glasses. We all have views that make others sick. We all see things in others that makes us sick. It doesn't mean we hate each other, it means we a different.

And human.

And with far too much free time on his hands....

 

[radtechtips]

There are too many people here that would loved to see me banned. As such, I am going to reframe from answering your question.

Reported for spelling.

 

[HAL9000]

There are too many people here that would loved to see me banned. As such, I am going to reframe from answering your question.

Is that because it would be a homophobic answer?

 

[werepossum]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a wife that puts out.

LOL +1

We are a defender of liberty, that is until you say something negative about the government. Then we will kill you and your whole family with a drone strike.

Soooo, when can we expect to see X, lsd, weed,,,, and other drugs legalized?

When can I set up a still and make my own whiskey?

You can say whatever you like about the government without watching the sky. You can even conspire to bring down the government - though that WILL get you arrested and possibly thrown in Gitmo. You simply cannot go out of US jurisdiction (including friendly governments willing to arrest and hold an extradition hearing) and work to kill Americans and overthrow the government. THAT is what will get your ass droned, because we cannot effectively stop you otherwise. Incidentally, in those nations where we're doing drone strikes being gay will also get you killed by a government, just not ours.

As for the other things, weed will probably be legal within a decade. For other drugs, no time soon, but it's because they endanger the public in a way that being gay does not. People rarely get all gay-faced at a party and cross the center line, wiping out a minivan full of nuns and children, on the way home. People rarely begin robbing or burglarizing to support their gay sex habits. It's not ONLY freedom, it's also how your actions potentially affect others. As for making whiskey in your basement, move to Tennessee. It's practically the official state hobby, and as long as you aren't making enough for government to feel tax-deprived it's no big deal.

You are going about this all wrong, OP. Think about it....gay sex has a 0% chance of ever leading to or creating:


- Minorities

- Atheists

- Another gay person

- Abortions

- Drug users


This sounds like a freakin' homerun, what is the problem???!!!

LMAO!

I dunno about that middle thing though. I've heard that only 30% of gays are born that way, the other 70% just get sucked into it. <rim shot>

 

[TheVrolok]

All I have done is open a topic for debate, nothing more. I would like to leave my personal feelings out of this.

.. 2nd post following your OP ..

Besides feeling I need to throw up when I see two gay guys kissing or holding hands, I have no objection to homo-sexuality.

Jesus H Christ, I am not homophobic. But it makes you feel better, keep tellign yourself that.

Homophobic implies negative feelings toward homosexuality. I would describe feeling the need to throw up when you see two guys holding hands as negative feelings. That's pretty fucking homophobic.

lol .. yep, left your personal feelings right out.

Why do people even argue with this troll? It's quite clear he's an idiot.

/thread.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Harms my pocketbook when they get AIDS and end up in the hospital, since we all have to have health insurance now. I have to pay for others poor choices. That harms me.

(I'm not for or against homosexuality, I'm just throwing out the ridiculous notion that its harmless. Everything can harm someone somehow.)

So when does the ban on fast food begin, since it clogs arteries and increases everyone's medical costs. Or how about alcohol, when will that be illegal. I don't want to foot the bill for injuries sustained from drunk driving...the list goes on...

 

[ch33zw1z]

When a dads or mothers heart is broken when their son or daughter is gay, that is ok?

lol...

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm rubber and you're glue....

Are you gay?

he is right,,your statement was ignorant!!

 

[sandorski]

The Internets' heart is broken, is that ok?

 

[UberNeuman]

Homosexuals\Lesbians have been around since the dawn of humankind...

\oh, my... it's a rainbow!!!!
\\hide the kids!!

 

[bradly1101]

Homosexuals\Lesbians have been around since the dawn of humankind...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality

Societal attitudes towards same-sex relationships have varied over time and place, from expecting all males to engage in same-sex relationships, to casual integration, through acceptance, to seeing the practice as a minor sin, repressing it through law enforcement and judicial mechanisms, and to proscribing it under penalty of death.

...

...

Americas


Dance to the Berdache
Sac and Fox Nation ceremonial dance to celebrate the two-spirit person. George Catlin (1796–1872); Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC


Among indigenous peoples of the Americas prior to European colonization, a common form of same-sex sexuality centered around the figure of the Two-Spirit individual. Typically this individual was recognized early in life, given a choice by the parents to follow the path and, if the child accepted the role, raised in the appropriate manner, learning the customs of the gender it had chosen. Two-Spirit individuals were commonly shamans, and were revered as having powers beyond those of ordinary shamans. Their sexual life was with the ordinary tribe members of the same sex.

 

[hans030390]

If sexual attraction is a protected human right, where does it end? Could pedophiles use that argument to look at children? That example is extreme, but if sexual attraction is a right, where do you draw the line?

Seriously? How about drawing the lines at, hm, I don't know...consenting adults? Clearly this would rule out children and animals. Inanimate objects? Well, I don't see the problem there because they're...inanimate...and said adult, while likely perceived as odd to most, isn't hurting anyone or anything that belongs to someone else in the process (i.e. not infringing on anyone else's freedoms).

You feeling sick at the sight of homosexuality, while extremely childish, judgmental, and close-minded, does not count as an infringed freedom or right. That's just you being a baby and disagreeing with someone else's life choices that should have no impact on your mental or physical state whatsoever.

 

[Mursilis]

Homophobic implies negative feelings toward homosexuality. I would describe feeling the need to throw up when you see two guys holding hands as negative feelings. That's pretty fucking homophobic.

Not liking PDAs is different than being "homophobic". Personally, I'm not a huge fan myself of people getting physically affectionate in public, whatever their sexuality, but I don't care what consenting adults do in private.

As for the definition of "homophobic", that word gets thrown around too much these days. No one has to like homosexuality, they merely have to tolerate it, and I think the gay lobby gets that confused sometimes, like in that whole "Duck Dynasty" silliness. Who cares if a bunch of rednecks don't approve of homosexuality? Are they denying rights to gays? If not, who cares?

 

[JManInPhoenix]

You are going about this all wrong, OP. Think about it....gay sex has a 0% chance of ever leading to or creating:


- Minorities

- Atheists

- Another gay person

- Abortions

- Drug users


This sounds like a freakin' homerun, what is the problem???!!!

:awe: Now that was funny!

 

[ch33zw1z]

Seriously? How about drawing the lines at, hm, I don't know...consenting adults? Clearly this would rule out children and animals. Inanimate objects? Well, I don't see the problem there because they're...inanimate...and said adult, while likely perceived as odd to most, isn't hurting anyone or anything that belongs to someone else in the process (i.e. not infringing on anyone else's freedoms).

You feeling sick at the sight of homosexuality, while extremely childish, judgmental, and close-minded, does not count as an infringed freedom or right. That's just you being a baby and disagreeing with someone else's life choices that should have no impact on your mental or physical state whatsoever.

TH doesn't know the difference between sexual orientation and sexual attractions. Go figure.

 

[mikeymikec]

TH doesn't know the difference between sexual orientation and sexual attractions. Go figure.

You need to cut TH some slack. He's admitted before that he suffers from a hyper sex drive which compels him to publicly judge women in the street. I'm just wondering whether we can set up a situation with a male gay couple and a woman in his presence and his hyper sex drive and warped sense of sensibilities will conflict and cause him to go into some sort of meltdown. Some sort of vomiting horndog I imagine.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Another day, another absurd TH thread. TH, I appreciate your consistency and prolific output, as you continue to eliminate all doubt that you are this forum's dumbest troll.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You need to cut TH some slack. He's admitted before that he suffers from a hyper sex drive which compels him to publicly judge women in the street. I'm just wondering whether we can set up a situation with a male gay couple and a woman in his presence and his hyper sex drive and warped sense of sensibilities will conflict and cause him to go into some sort of meltdown. Some sort of vomiting horndog I imagine.

That shit would go viral!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Certain rights are restricted even though you do not harm anyone else.

Homemade whiskey is illegal, even though making it does not harm anyone.

Which means that it should be legal.

Buying a machine does not harm anyone, but you can not go down to the local gun store and buy one.

You can't purchase a nuclear weapon, either. A gun's purpose is to shoot and kill, so one aspect of its use is illegal. Also, it's a potential threat to society at large.

Smoking weed does not harm anyone.

Which means that it should be legal.

 

[Mursilis]

Another day, another absurd TH thread. TH, I appreciate your consistency and prolific output, as you continue to eliminate all doubt that you are this forum's dumbest troll.

Hey, you can't just go award that title on your own! There's a number of people who've been posting with that award in mind! You've got to put that sort of thing up to a vote.

 

[soulcougher73]

When a dads or mothers heart is broken when their son or daughter is gay, that is ok?

Well it wouldnt be broken if they were not homophobes to begin with.

Or they could just blame god for making their child that way

 

[Texashiker]

Well it wouldnt be broken if they were not homophobes to begin with.

Its called freedom of choice.

Just because someone is gay does not mean others have to like it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Its called freedom of choice.

Just because someone is religious does not mean others have to like it.

changed that for ya. see how that works?

 

[Texashiker]

changed that for ya. see how that works?

Have you ever flown? Ever been on a flight with a crying baby? Did you like it?

Just because you may not like crying children on a plane does not mean we are going to ban children from flying.