New jobs created, competition created. I call that a good deal for most people.
I would rather see it as the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few. I don't really see how this compares to intel's bribery where the majority (consumers and legit OEM's) are being harmed and only Intel and a few choice OEM's are profiting?
The difference being GF's tax rebates for creating jobs are in fact legitimate while intel's bribery isn't? I don't even know how you can start to compare the two.
I voted no.
A 3570K costs as much as a good dinner for two.
Ah, I see, you are a "the ends justify the means" sort of guy.
The divide between ethical and unethical is one of convenience, push the line around as you see fit all in the name of "the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few".
If it can be justified then it must be ethical. Now I understand what this is really all about.
And then reality called?
You do know that discrete cards account for almost a third of AMDs revenue?
AMDs only, and somewhat very limited, success is the discrete market. They lose money on their CPU division.
AMD's discrete gpu sales will be making around $200 million a quarter, so more like 1/5th.
In 2004 ATI had revenues of $600 million a quarter. The market is going away, quickly. The low end is being replaced by IGP, the high end is disappearing due to lack of innovation. Soon the middle end will be replaced by IGP as bandwidth restrictions are lifted.
AMD is already well set on their way towards a discrete gpu-less future.
Now I understand what this is really all about.
AMD's discrete gpu sales will be making around $200 million a quarter, so more like 1/5th.
In 2004 ATI had revenues of $600 million a quarter. The market is going away, quickly. The low end is being replaced by IGP, the high end is disappearing due to lack of innovation. Soon the middle end will be replaced by IGP as bandwidth restrictions are lifted.
AMD is already well set on their way towards a discrete gpu-less future.
Q4 results.
AMDs CPU division -37% YoY. 829 million$ revenue.
AMDs GPU division -15% YoY. 326 million$ revenue.
Funny how Nvidia's GeForce division still does ~$630M/qtr (this is without the Intel royalty payment).
That doesn't include Quadro/Tesla.
If it can be justified then it must be ethical. Now I understand what this is really all about.
Yes I see the irony, in fact I was about to change it to include myself in it before your post.
Intel has ME caught in it as well, which is a good reason why I hate it so much. It was only another 10-15 bucks but I still paid for something that I didn't pay for with my Q6600, for example.
AMD's GPU division includes more than just discrete GPU. It's the whole embedded market too (including consoles).
Eyefinity already stated that he hates Intel. There is no possibility of rational debate when one of the parts hates the debate subject.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=34550698&highlight=#post34550698
Eyefinity already stated that he hates Intel. There is no possibility of rational debate when one of the parts hates the debate subject.
CPU division Q4 2011 1309 million $ revenue. 1 year later its down to 829 million $. And you say the future is there. :whiste:
AMDs GPU division aint much compared to the ATI days. Its sold offs and shutdowns ever since.
Thread topic: Is Intel too expensive
Eyefinity wants thread topic to be: AMD is great
Please stop doing this to every thread you post in. A thread is allowed to not be about how much you love AMD.
You could apply your logic to just about anything in life and you'll always end up with somebody being harmed. If it's a choice between consumer and corporation than its a very easy choice for me. If a few people need to "suffer" (paying taxes that they already paid?) so that many more can prosper then so be it. Chances are the people who are suffering made hay while the sun was shining and they had a monopoly on the market.
Big Numbers for Advanced Micro's Boss: Advanced Micro Devices Inc. gave its chairman, W. Jerry Sanders III, a 73% raise last year to $2.98 million in salary and bonus, according to the Sunnyvale-based firm's proxy. Advanced Micro said Sanders also received $3.9 million in restricted stock awards last year as a result of the company's turnaround. The award brought his total holdings in the nation's sixth-largest semiconductor maker to about 1.4 million shares, valued at $30.7 million.
AMD's Sanders doubles 1999 pay with $2 million bonus
The computer chip giant says CEO Jerry Sanders, whose annual bonus is capped at $5 million, received a fiscal 2001 bonus of $1.2 million that was carried over from 2000.
Hector de J Ruiz 5-Year Compensation Total $14.01 mil
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. Chairman Hector Ruiz (right) will get a $3 million bonus if AMDs deal to spin off its manufacturing operations to a new foundry company goes through.
Ruiz will earn $1.15 million annually as chairman of the new company, which is getting investment from the government of Abu Dhabi.
AMD revealed that it will paying its new CEO Rory Read a base salary of $1 million, the highest base salary for an AMD CEO in the company's history.
You know how much Otellini gets paid right IDC? $17 million a year.
Otellini's company isn't going down the toilet. Shareholders care little about executive salaries increasing as long as stock prices are also increasing.
Until they are making more than 17x AMD's revenues, nobody can have a go at AMD for paying Read $1 million while Intel is paying Otellini $17 million.
AMD had fewer employees than Intel. Those fewer people at AMD suffered so that many more at Intel could prosper.
Until they are making more than 17x AMD's revenues, nobody can have a go at AMD for paying Read $1 million while Intel is paying Otellini $17 million.
Until they are making more than 17x AMD's revenues, nobody can have a go at AMD for paying Read $1 million while Intel is paying Otellini $17 million.