Is Islam the Religion of Peace? Discuss...

[HAL9000]

I prefer Muslims to Christians, they seem like better people (on the whole).

 

[KlokWyze]

Clearly Islam is just the religion of choice of countries that have been invaded, occupied and manipulated by Western interests for decades and any movements against Western forces would HAVE to be "muslim" in some way. They have to recruit somehow. Al Queda has Islam. America has technicians dodging meteors with satellites playing to Godsmack tunes. ARMY OF 1!!!111ONE

 

[silverpig]

WTF does religion have to do with WW1? Nothing. Nice try. And last time I checked the crusades were hundreds of years ago. Muslims are the only ones still stuck in the middle ages.

Weren't all the countries involved in WWI Christian countries?

 

[silverpig]

there is a world of difference between what is written and what is practiced and interpreted in islam.

...in all religions.

 

[exdeath]

I want to believe it's just extremists, but it's hard to buy when it's so wide spread, little to no condemnation when extremists do something (passive aggressive silent behavior), and when millions of them flood the streets with their AK 47s in celebration every time disaster strikes a western 1st world nation.

 

[bfdd]

I get the impression the OP is rather racist and trying to hide it (in this thread)

what does race have to do with religion?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I prefer Muslims to Christians, they seem like better people (on the whole).

As much crap as i give Christians about their constant efforts to change everyone into a believer i still say that Muslims are far worse both when it comes to fundamentalists and to the entire group (mostly because very very few actually have a clue about Islam, they believe whatever shit they are told by those "who know Allahs will").

I have got nothing against God, but i do hate the members of his fan clubs.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Weren't all the countries involved in WWI Christian countries?

Or Atheist nations, doesn't really matter since none of them fought in the name of their religion or lack there of.

It's quite rare that people do things in the name of any religion (or in the name of atheism for that matter) with the exception of Islam, it does happen, the LRA is a shining example of what happens when you mix Christianity with the conditions you'll find in a shithole nation, this is also the explanation for a lot of Islamic violence, they live shit lives in shithole nations.

 

[Gyhrg71]

I want to believe it's just extremists, but it's hard to buy when it's so wide spread, little to no condemnation when extremists do something (passive aggressive silent behavior), and when millions of them flood the streets with their AK 47s in celebration every time disaster strikes a western 1st world nation.

There were millions of muslims flooding the streets after Katrina? I didn't realize N.O. had so many muslims.

Call be a sceptic but I'd liked to see some proof that "millions of muslims flood the streets with their AK 47s in celebration every time disaster strikes a western 1st world nation.".

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I want to believe it's just extremists, but it's hard to buy when it's so wide spread, little to no condemnation when extremists do something (passive aggressive silent behavior), and when millions of them flood the streets with their AK 47s in celebration every time disaster strikes a western 1st world nation.

1. There has been a SHEITLOAD of Muslim condemnation of various terrorist attacks, there is most certainly no lack of it at all, you can probably find fairly many pages of search results if you'd google it.

2. Link to "millions of them flooding the streets with their AK47s", both of us know it's a huge overstatement and that the most well known ones were staged events to get controversial footage.

Of course, there IS a lot of them in Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan who would love to see westerners die just like the televised bombings of Iraq made people in the US cheerful even though they had to know the result of the bombings.

 

[Lanyap]

There is no Religion of Peace.

 

[manimal]

There is no Religion of Peace.

Buddhism...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation



wish the worlds zealots would do themselves first...now I am not directing this toward any religion since all religions house some form of extremism to varying degrees....except Buddhists...hell they are even nice to cows...

 

[soulcougher73]

I call it a Religion of Pieces personally. That is all that is left after the suicide bombings that religion seems so fond of.

 

[Red Dawn]

Weren't all the countries involved in WWI Christian countries?

Ever hear of Turkey and the Ottoman Empire?

 

[epidemis]

I get the impression the OP is rather racist and trying to hide it (in this thread)

I get the impression you would do anything to smear others you disagree with and try to elevate your social position by deploying a tabooed and vague label.

 

[Scotteq]

Weren't all the countries involved in WWI Christian countries?

Turkey was allied with Germany in WWI, but nobody noticed. They were worried about Russia, if my memory serves.

 

[HAL9000]

I get the impression you would do anything to smear others you disagree with and try to elevate your social position by deploying a tabooed and vague label.

No, it's not people that disagree with me, it's people that are completely intolerant of other races or religions, for no logical reason. On a side note I hate all religions, particularly Christianity, but I'm not intolerant to christians. I tolerate their delusions.

 

[Scotteq]

No, it's not people that disagree with me, it's people that are completely intolerant of other races or religions, for no logical reason. On a side note I hate all religions, particularly Christianity, but I'm not intolerant to christians. I tolerate their delusions.

...in the same manner as - when confroted with someone fishing in a dried out riverbed - you smile and throw some bread to the ducks.

...easier that way.

 

[soccerballtux]

What? Peace?? Islam wants everyone to be forced into it. Here's proof:

Let there be no compulsion in religion
The Qur'an 2:256

More proof:

"Say, "This is the truth from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)"
The Qur'an 18-29

Here's the only verse in the Qur'an that was repeated TWICE:

"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
The Qur'an – 5:69

Here's how my insanely violent religion tells me to respond to people like you:

"The servants of the All-merciful are those who walk in the earth modestly and who, when the ignorant address them, say, 'Peace'"
The Qur'an 25:63

"...and you shall certainly hear from those who have been given the Book before you and from those who are polytheists much annoying talk; but if you are patient and guard (against evil), surely this is one of the affairs (which should be) determined upon."
The Qur'an 2:186

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.'
The Quran 28:55

"And if they call you a liar, say: My work is for me and your work for you; you are clear of what I do and I am clear of what you do."
The Qur'an 10:41

Human life has no value for these savage muslims:

"If anyone slays a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all people. And if anyone saves a life,
it would be as if he saved the life of all people."
The Qur'an 5:32

Muslims are required to spread Islam by....

"Invite all to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching."
The Qur'an 16:125

"Do not let hatred for a people incite you into not being just. Be just. That is closer to heedfulness. Heed God (alone). God is aware of what you do."
The Qur'an 5:8

Turn the other cheek? In Islam? No way.

"Repel evil with what is better. Then that person with whom there was hatred, may become your intimate friend! And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but people of the greatest good fortune."
The Qur'an 41:34-35

You should fight everyone who isn't a muslim:

"Fight in the Way of God against those who fight you, but do not go beyond the limits. God does not love those who go beyond the limits."
The Qur'an 2:190

Peace is for wankers:

"And if they incline to peace, then incline thou also to it, and trust in God. Surely He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing"
The Qur'an 8:61

"And do not kill yourselves. God is Most Merciful to you."
The Qur'an 4:29


Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)."
The Qur'an 2:136

When Pagans declared war on Muslims, muslims did not return killing of women and children with the same. Before any battle, Prophet Mohammed would say:

"Do not unroot a tree, or a plant. Do not cover a well. Do not kill an elderly, do not kill a child, do not kill a worshipper, do not kill he who sits in his place of worship, or a youth who is not holding a weapon. Do not finish off a wounded and do not portray the dead."

"Whoever harms a civilian, I shall be his enemy on the day of judgement"

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But sure, why don't you publish a few more "informative posts" about savage muslims, and politically-driven terrorists and then ask the same not-sneaky-at-all question: Is it a religion of peace? "Discuss" <-- (read: I'm an open minded person who'd not a fanatic and who wants a totally unbiased and subjective discussion).

LOL. I hope threads like these help you feel much better about yourself. Hopefully you'll grow up into a helpful, productive person in life, will have a nice family, with well behaved kids.

I already dealt with this post of yours. I think it's pretty telling you didn't reply to it. I'm sure it just slipped your attention. Surely you have something to say for yourself.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31050406&postcount=152

Hope you don't conveniently disappear from this thread too.

 

[TareX]

I already dealt with this post of yours. I think it's pretty telling you didn't reply to it. I'm sure it just slipped your attention. Surely you have something to say for yourself.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31050406&postcount=152

Hope you don't conveniently disappear from this thread too.

Pretty sure I said "I don't have the will or the stamina to pursue your spam" -or something to that effect.

I've addressed your "women's rights!" comment here, I believe. Thank you.

 

[TareX]

I want to believe it's just extremists, but it's hard to buy when it's so wide spread, little to no condemnation when extremists do something (passive aggressive silent behavior), and when millions of them flood the streets with their AK 47s in celebration every time disaster strikes a western 1st world nation.

Oh dear.

How many mosques have you been to? What are your news sources? Which agenda-driven US network would choose to run a piece titled: "Breaking news: Anti-terror speech given at a mosque, for the 10000th time!"

Take my word for it, or don't. Terrorism hurts muslims the most. As a Muslim in North America, I wake up everyday worried I'd read about some mass murdering event on CNN witha muslim-looking name attached.

Condemnation? It's almost insulting to ask for it. It's like asking Catholics to organize mass anti-child molestation marches saying their religion is against it. D-UH "No, we actually totally support it. That's why we didn't organize the march"

Last week in Egypt, thousands of Muslims camped in front of Coptic churches in a show of solidarity against Al-Qaeda, many even joined the prayers. Who reported that?

EVERY SINGLE mass-Muslim event I've attended in the last 2 years in North America had a boring-as-hell anti-terror speech, to which none of the attendees can relate to, since it's like "DUH- WE KNOW IT'S A FRACKIN INHUMANE, COWARDLY CRIMINAL ACT."

You do realize that Muslims -like you, have a whole lot of other things in life to worry about, other than terrorism, right? I have to worry about my next-job, my family, the future of my kids -while "announcing that I don't support mass-murdering pigs" doesn't even lie on the first 2 pages of my 1-page priority list.

HINT: The biggest muslim website on the internet (probably the biggest website on the internet -in term of subscribers) is www.amrkhaled.com - who happens to be the single most moderate Muslim preacher on the planet.

I actually hate the terms "moderate" and "extremist", since it implies that someone who is an extremist is "very, very muslim -following it very strictly". As in "extremely Muslim", while someone who is a moderate, is a so-and-so Muslim while the truth couldn't be any further. I'm just using the terms because I'm forced to. That's how the media makes up words with double meanings.

 

[umbrella39]

Nope. No matter how many anecdotes Routan and his apologist buddies bring out, the numbers are clear.

Every month I clear my plonk list and start anew but every time this topic comes up you put yourself right back on it. Grow up.

 

[umbrella39]

What? Peace?? Islam wants everyone to be forced into it. Here's proof:

WWYB?

 

[Scotteq]

Last week in Egypt, thousands of Muslims camped in front of Coptic churches in a show of solidarity against Al-Qaeda, many even joined the prayers. Who reported that?.

While I understand your commentary in the context of the general US News Media, there *is* a thread here regarding that very act:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2133627

Peace

 

[airdata]

All religions have the ability to be twisted around and misinterpretted.

I'm sure you can find plenty of friendly islamic people, and plenty of crazy ones. Same w\ Christians. Plenty of friendly ones out there, also plenty of crazy ones.