Is it a bad idea to

bigj3347

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is it really that accessbile to anybody looking to find it?? is checking it from your room's wired connection any safer?
 

bigj3347

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how do you know if its an ssl site . .it just says secure online services .. . it's citibank cc
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: bigj3347
how do you know if its an ssl site . .it just says secure online services .. . it's citibank cc

Little lock symbol at the bottom right, at least on IE.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.
 

Attrox

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Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.
 
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Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.
i think you are way off base nik

people can pretty easily crack the wep on the wireless transmission, but if the content is encrypted over ssl it is certainly not that easily decoded
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.

I'd really like to know if he's talking about WEP or SSL too.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.

I'd really like to know if he's talking about WEP or SSL too.

Its Nik. Hell, even HE doesnt know what hes talking about.

 

iamme

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.

I'd really like to know if he's talking about WEP or SSL too.

i assume he's talking about WEP, because if he's suggesting against SSL, he's basically saying not to do any cc transactions online, period.
 

huey1124

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Isn't your CC account number marked by XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-(last 4 digits) once you log on? That's how it is at least with both of my credit card online accounts. Even if the numbers are fully visible, nowhere on the site will your expiration date be listed. Of course your log-on name and password could be intercepted, but they can't charge anything using that.

I would say you should be fine. And most reputable CC companies should give you ZERO liability for fraudulent purchases.

 

huey1124

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Originally posted by: huey1124

Isn't your CC account number marked by XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-(last 4 digits) once you log on? That's how it is at least with both of my credit card online accounts. Even if the numbers are fully visible, nowhere on the site will your expiration date be listed. Of course your log-on name and password could be intercepted, but they can't charge anything using that.

I would say you should be fine. And most reputable CC companies should give you ZERO liability for fraudulent purchases.

Oh, and your log on and password should be using SSL, so you should be fine.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.

I'd really like to know if he's talking about WEP or SSL too.

i assume he's talking about WEP, because if he's suggesting against SSL, he's basically saying not to do any cc transactions online, period.

That's exactly what I'm saying. WEP is a joke. If someone wants the information that you're passing through an internet connection, they can get it and there's nothing you can do to stop them. Now when it comes to SSL, I dunno. I've never tried breaking/decoding SSL before. I'm not sure how easy it is, but I'm sure I can find out. I use a 2048-bit SSL connection on a bi-daily basis.
 
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Originally posted by: huey1124
Originally posted by: huey1124

Isn't your CC account number marked by XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-(last 4 digits) once you log on? That's how it is at least with both of my credit card online accounts. Even if the numbers are fully visible, nowhere on the site will your expiration date be listed. Of course your log-on name and password could be intercepted, but they can't charge anything using that.

I would say you should be fine. And most reputable CC companies should give you ZERO liability for fraudulent purchases.

Oh, and your log on and password should be using SSL, so you should be fine.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Nik
First of all, do NO transactions over wireless. Second, do NO transactions through a university's internet connection. Third, 128-bit encryption takes a matter of minutes to break and that's if you don't know what you're doing.

To answer your question, it's NOT a good idea because it's not secure.

Are you refering to the WEP encryption or SSL? There's no way SSL encryption can be broken in minutes.

I'd really like to know if he's talking about WEP or SSL too.

i assume he's talking about WEP, because if he's suggesting against SSL, he's basically saying not to do any cc transactions online, period.

That's exactly what I'm saying. WEP is a joke. If someone wants the information that you're passing through an internet connection, they can get it and there's nothing you can do to stop them. Now when it comes to SSL, I dunno. I've never tried breaking/decoding SSL before. I'm not sure how easy it is, but I'm sure I can find out. I use a 2048-bit SSL connection on a bi-daily basis.

:laugh:

Only 2048-bit? 4096-bit minimum for me.
 
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