Is it a good time to buy R9 290 NOW ?

Temuka

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I'm playing on 1920x1080,mostly FPS,TPS

i5 3570k ( OC-ed 4.4)
8gb RAM
700W OCZ Modular

So I know everything about 290 vs 970 bla bla bla

Question is: Is it a good time to buy NOW R9 290 for about 250$ ? (Newegg have now Tri-X for 240 with bonus code and rebate)

I mean can we predict something like 200$ in nearest future ? Is 3xx worth waiting if I want to buy something for about 250-300$?

Thanks in advance

P.S Would be interesting to listen to RussianSensation
 

lehtv

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What is your current graphics card?

I mean can we predict something like 200$ in nearest future ?

300 series just got pushed to H2'15, prices will probably stay where they are until then :/
 
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Even when new stuff launch, I doubt very much you can match R290/X on perf/$.

Tri-X R290 at $240 is killer value. One of the best coolers.
 

Temuka

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What is your current graphics card?



300 series just got pushed to H2'15, prices will probably stay where they are until then :/

I'm shy to say,but I had 560 gtx,which I sold a little while ago for 70$ )))

Now I'm on HD4000

P.S Watching full hd videos and even some games on medium :biggrin::biggrin:
 

S.H.O.D.A.N.

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I'm shy to say,but I had 560 gtx,which I sold a little while ago for 70$ )))

Now I'm on HD4000

P.S Watching full hd videos and even some games on medium :biggrin::biggrin:

If that's the case, then yes, a good aftermarket 290 will serve you very well.
 

guskline

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I have 3 Sapphire Tri-X R9 290s. Two are under water in my rig below and the 3rd is on air in my 3770k rig. Solid cards. You won't be sorry. They are LONG cards.
 

raghu78

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I'm playing on 1920x1080,mostly FPS,TPS

i5 3570k ( OC-ed 4.4)
8gb RAM
700W OCZ Modular

So I know everything about 290 vs 970 bla bla bla

Question is: Is it a good time to buy NOW R9 290 for about 250$ ? (Newegg have now Tri-X for 240 with bonus code and rebate)

I mean can we predict something like 200$ in nearest future ? Is 3xx worth waiting if I want to buy something for about 250-300$?


Thanks in advance

P.S Would be interesting to listen to RussianSensation

At USD 240 you are not going to find a R9 3xx product which beats R9 290. Maybe at USD 300 - 350 its possible. But you never know until the R9 380 and R9 380X launch and their price, perf is known. I am expecting the R9 380 and R9 380X to sport HBM. So if waiting a couple of months is not a problem then do so.
 

lehtv

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At USD 240 you are not going to find a R9 3xx product which beats R9 290. Maybe at USD 300 - 350 its possible. But you never know until the R9 380 and R9 380X launch and their price, perf is known. I am expecting the R9 380 and R9 380X to sport HBM. So if waiting a couple of months is not a problem then do so.

Unfortunately, R9 3xx has been pushed to H2 so the wait is probably going to be at least 3-4 months
 

lehtv

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That, and possibly some small difference in clock speeds.

The next best deals:
MSI R9 290 Gaming $280 ($250 AR) @ newegg
XFX R9 290 DD $270 AP ($250 AR) @ newegg

MSI's cooler is probably a bit better, but XFX has better warranty (lifetime with registration). Both have 6+8 pin power.
 

Temuka

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That, and possibly some small difference in clock speeds.

The next best deals:
MSI R9 290 Gaming $280 ($250 AR) @ newegg
XFX R9 290 DD $270 AP ($250 AR) @ newegg

MSI's cooler is probably a bit better, but XFX has better warranty (lifetime with registration). Both have 6+8 pin power.

Sorry to ask noob question,but I have to. I see one is with 6 and 8 pin and another one with two 8 pins,how it will affect my rig? Thx
 

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Hmm, I did not know there was a TriX version with dual 8 pin power. I thought only the vapor X had that. My guess is that it is a custom PCB allowing for better OCs.
 

Pneumothorax

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You're going to need this to convert the 6 pin to 8 pin as your PSU only has 1 x 8 pin and 1 x 6 pin. It works great on my son's tri-x 290x rig which has a 550 watt.
 

Temuka

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You're going to need this to convert the 6 pin to 8 pin as your PSU only has 1 x 8 pin and 1 x 6 pin. It works great on my son's tri-x 290x rig which has a 550 watt.

yes,but that card needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin,so what's the problem ? It's the another one,which I mentioned above,which needs two 8 pins

correct me if I'm wrong
 

lehtv

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yes,but that card needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin,so what's the problem ? It's the another one,which I mentioned above,which needs two 8 pins

correct me if I'm wrong

There's no problem with using a 6+8 pin card. That is the standard config for R9 290. It's just that some versions have 2x 8-pin which should in theory allow for more stable overclocks, as there's more power available to the card. In practice there's not going to be a noticeable difference
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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Do it. I grabbed both of my XFX 290 DDs in Feb. Worked out to ~$180 each and both unlocked
 

Pneumothorax

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yes,but that card needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin,so what's the problem ? It's the another one,which I mentioned above,which needs two 8 pins

correct me if I'm wrong

I'm confused, which card are you actually buying? The 1st one you linked has the older 8+6 power arrangement which your PSU shouldn't have an issue with. I have the newer 290x which you linked to which has 8+8 configuration which requires 2 x 8 pin PCI-E power connectors.
 

RussianSensation

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I'm playing on 1920x1080,mostly FPS,TPS

Question is: Is it a good time to buy NOW R9 290 for about 250$ ? (Newegg have now Tri-X for 240 with bonus code and rebate)

Logically: the right time to buy a GPU is when a certain game (franchise) comes out that you really want to play/enjoy and your existing GPU is not sufficient to provide a satisfactory gaming experience for you. Satisfactory gaming experience is subjective to each gamer. Do you absolutely need 60 fps averages? Maybe you desire 120 fps averages on a 144Hz screen with 60 fps minimums? Do you need Ultra quality settings or are you OK with a balance of Medium/High and Ultra settings?

Emotionally: the right time to buy a GPU is when you want something new to play with. No one can tell you when that time comes except for you!

I mean can we predict something like 200$ in nearest future ?

There were already Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 and PowerColor PCS+ R9 290 for $200 around November-December 2014. That means it's highly likely we will see R9 290 for $200-210 right before they are discontinued. Whether it's worth it to take a gamble and wait another 2-3 months to save $30-40 is up to you.

Is 3xx worth waiting if I want to buy something for about 250-300$

Gaming perspective: do you have a lot of free time to play games today? For example, if you are really busy with school, work, or other personal/professional committments and you feel if you buy a GPU today, it'll be hardly used for the next 2-3 months, then it makes sense to wait. On the other hand, if you really want to play Dragon Age Inquisition, Far Cry 4, GTA V, Dying Light, etc. and you have a lot of free time, might as well get something now. Worst case, you can always sell a $240 R9 290/GTX970 in 6 months and lose maybe $50-75 in the process. Is $50-75 of depreciation worth it for you to play games for 6 months? Are you OK with a $300 card coming out in 3 months that is better than an R9 290 by 15%, or are you going to be upset? Only you can answer that!

Hedging your bets: One possible option is to get an EVGA GTX970 with a 90-day step-up. This way if R9 300 series is really great and it forces NV to launch a GTX970Ti or drop prices on a 980, you can save up over the next 3 months and have the option to get a faster NV card.

Historical trends: Historically speaking, the truth is most of the time when an older generation is discontinued, you can often get better deals than the newer cards. This happens consistently with HD5850/5870 offering superior price/perf to HD6850/6870, or HD4890 being a better buy than an HD5770 on price/perf, or when GTX480 was $299 while GTX580 debuted at $499.

I would say the chance of a brand new NV/AMD card at $249 that's as fast as an R9 290X is going to be rather slim. Why? Because if R9 380/380X are refreshes of Hawaii, just 7-10% performance increase will already make them faster than a GTX970, a card that sells for $300 today. That tells me AMD could easily charge $279-299 for an R9 380. What about the 380X? well look at how close 980 is to the 290X.





Imagine if R9 380X is 7-10% faster than the R9 290X, why would AMD price it at $249-299 when GTX980 sells for $500+? It's reasonable that AMD will gun for a $349-399 price with the R9 380X.

Think about all these things and make your decision. Personally, I wouldn't stress it too much because either an after-market R9 290/290X or an after-market 970 are excellent choices - I would say hands down the best 3 cards to buy today in terms of sweet-spot if your budget is $200-300.

EVGA GTX970 with TW3 is $315 / Gigabyte G1 970 is $320
PowerColor R9 290 is $240
XFX R9 290 with lifetime warranty is $250
MSI Gaming R9 290 is $250

If you add TW3 (say you can pick it up on eBay for $30), that brings the cheapest R9 290 to $270 vs. $315 for the EVGA 970. I would say you really can't go wrong with any of these cards. If you don't care for TW3, maybe grab the XFX R9 for its lifetime warranty. If you feel in the next 90 days you might want a faster card, maybe go the EVGA route. The Sapphire Tri-X R9 290X for $281 others recommended to you sounds like it is a good balance between the 290 and 970. It offers performance faster than the 970 but costs less.

Since all of these cards are so close in performance, maybe you need to look at specific games.





It just depends on how long you want to keep the card for. For example, NV seems to have a huge advantage in the new Unreal Engine 4. So if you are thinking Unreal down the line, go NV.

 
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Temuka

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Thanks for such detailed info

Right now I can grab Tri-X 290X for 299$ in my shop brand new,is it worth buying summing all detailes mentioned above?

P.S mostly i play nv titles that's why it's kinda difficult for me to decide which card to grab....
 
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