So being a weak puke is a valid excuse for being a fat pig?humm I dunno Red, he may have a valid point. Food Marketing is very powerful not only getting us to buy bad food but getting us hungry to go out and get it. the latest Macaroni grill commercial gets my mouth watering.
Nobody's telling you what you can or cannot eat. If you aren't a fat pig yet odds are you will be by the time you're 45. Lose weight and we'll stop mocking you and hopefully discriminating against you because your weight and lack of conditioning is driving up the cost of our Health Ins.
I agree it's tougher to lose weight than it is to stop smoking and humans, especially those like you who feel they are entitled, are usually weak, that's why it's easier to quit smoking than it is to stop being a fast funny looking lard ass.Oh look, somebody comparing obesity and smoking. . .wierd. Gee, I haven't already shot that argument down yet or anything. Maybe you're late to the party so I'll reiterate. You have to eat to live. You don't have to smoke to live. I am prone to being overweight because I have a sedentary job and that's why I exercise regularly and don't over eat. See somewhere along the way growing up in my 36 years so far on this planet I learned that the actions we take and choices we make have consequences that we live with sometimes for years, maybe even the rest of our lives. One poor choice tends to lead to another which tends to lead to bad things. And one good choice tends to lead to another which tends to lead to good things. It's a pretty simple concept really. Plant good seed, good things grow. Plant bad seeds, bad things grow. You are the choices you make in your life and you are part of society. We need a society where the net of the choices made is for the good and things like smoking and obesity just seem like no-brainers. But smoking especially. I'll give somebody who loses 50 pounds 10x more credit than I'll give somebody who quits smoking because to lose any appreciable amount of weight you have to actively exercise, change your whole lifestyle and attitude about food, and actively fight a basic and necessary biological urge. . .the urge to eat. Smoking just makes no sense at all to me. . .who has to smoke to sustain their life? It may take mental discipline to quit smoking but fixing your weight requires both physical (continued exercise) and mental discipline (attitude about food) that you sustain for life (assuming you want to do it the right way and remain healthy for life).
I bet you fail badly if you are not already a few dozen biscuits out of shape.But anyway, I thank you for the challenge. I will take your words as a challenge and use them as fuel to make sure that not only do I live to be 45 but that when I do reach that birthday I will weigh no more than I do today. If nothing else, the power of the fear of public humiliation will keep me from becoming a lard-ass in case I ever think of letting myself slip.
You were talking about your quality of life.
My insurance plan charges more for individuals that have children, there's no reason they couldn't charge more for the smokers, obese, those with a family history of cancer, etc. etc.
I agree it's tougher to lose weight than it is to stop smoking and humans, especially those like you who feel they are entitled, are usually weak, that's why it's easier to quit smoking than it is to stop being a fast funny looking lard ass.
I bet you fail badly if you are not already a few dozen biscuits out of shape.
So being a weak puke is a valid excuse for being a fat pig?
So to recap, you smoke, but change your clothes after each smoke, you never smoke in your car or out in public because you can control your urges, and you have some special health insurance that doesn't care if you smoke.
Man, you have it made.
So to recap, you smoke, but change your clothes after each smoke, you never smoke in your car or out in public because you can control your urges, and you have some special health insurance that doesn't care if you smoke.
Man, you have it made.
Then get to the gym and do an hour or so of Cardio 3 days a week.you have to admit that the amount of food marketing we are subjected to does have a impact on Americas obesity issues. marketing is capitalism at its finest. just watch a football game and count how many beer or food commercials are shown. eat drink eat drink eat drink eat drink... all while sitting on your ass watching a sporting event.
Get use to it - smoking isn't cool anymore - and each day more and more people would rather be working in a smoke free environment
You think you are entitled to tell others how to live their life, what they can and can't do in their own homes, well at least while you are on the Internet. In real life you probably aren't as much a roach like individual.Sorry, you lost me here. I'm not sure I understand what it is you are saying that I think that I think I'm entitled to.
You presume correctly. I am against pretty much anything which has no redeeming social value and only serves to lower and debase our society and overall standards of living and quality of life. Any system which allows you to socialize losses and concentrate gains is a broken system. Needless to say we have a lot of broken systems and health care is only one of them. Obviously you are resorting to exaggeration of my point of view by citing sports (which participating in regularly can have measurable beneficial impact on your overall health and physical fitness because they can be considered exercise) and you are veering off into the realm of the absurd because you are running out of concrete and sensible arguments (not that you had any to begin with). Hyperbole is the tool of the desperate.
Hey I look after a lot of people who have sports related injuries at the hospital, broken bones cost a lot to fix.
Using your logic we should only allow people to use exercise bikes while wearing protective clothing, no contact sports or anything outdoors.
Are you going to set up committee that decides on what we are allowed to do or are you going to make the decisions yourself?
Have you got a rough draft or are you going to wing it?
You think you are entitled to tell others how to live their life, what they can and can't do in their own homes, well at least while you are on the Internet. In real life you probably aren't as much a roach like individual.
what workplace allows smoking?
The guy who ran a game server with me was hit by a car while riding his bike and his medical bills were over half a million US dollars. Don't worry, he won the lawsuit to cover all expenses and he's doing greatWhich do you think costs more? Having a broken bone set or having to go through months of an agonizing chemotherapy treatment regimen?
I am an employer and i would avoid hiring someone that smokes or has facial piercings or visible tattoos.
Exactly, I pay the same amount as the guy that sits a few cubes down from me that eats cheeseburgers. He ended up in the hospital for over a week because of arterial blockage. After that he was out 2 weeks until he had recovered enough to come back to work. He readily admits that it was most likely because of his poor diet and is trying to adjust.
If fatties actually paid the real cost it takes to insure them I wouldn't really care so much but in many cases they don't.
adjusted again....
*sigh* Honestly I don't even know why I'm bothering to waste my effort responding to this. . .No scratch that. . .I do know. It's because I do so enjoy systematically dismantling the inane and nonsensical arguments of idiots time and again. I mean, really, I shouldn't even have to explain this but here goes anyway since the plainly and utterly obvious all but seems to have eluded your grasp.
Participation in sports can result in quantifiable benefits to your health because it can be an enjoyable way of getting exercise. The possible benefits to your health and longevity from getting regular exercise, either through sports or other means, far outweigh any possible risk of injury you might receive while participating in them for the average person. The possible benefits of smoking on the other hand include. . .NONE. There is no upside to smoking to counterbalance the risk of getting the myriad health problems, one or more of which a smoker is almost certain to get, that are associated with cigarette smoking.
Which do you think costs more? Having a broken bone set or having to go through months of an agonizing chemotherapy treatment regimen? Have you ever known or had anybody in your family get cancer or die of cancer? Well I have and I'll take a broken bone or two over what they went through on any given day. If you do indeed work in a hospital then chances are you may have seen firsthand what people suffering from cancer go through. Which makes it even more astonishing that you would attempt to compare the cost of a broken bone to the cost of cancer treatment. Are you going to tell me a broken bone is more costly? Honestly. . .I mean. . .do you even think AT ALL before you hit the post reply button?
I have news for you.
Your going to eventually die. It wont necessarily be a better death than a chain smoking alcoholic, it might not come as soon but it wont be any easier.
Your argument was about the cost to you of others smoking the suffering thing is not going to affect you so I don't know why you brought that up.
Smokers pay a lot of tax and die earlier. I'd guess they don't actually cost society much more than any other group, if you've got any link that show otherwise I'd be interested. I'd still say it none of your business though.
Actually, an employer has EVERY right to do those things. You also have every right to refuse. Your employer has every right to refuse to hire you then.
When you actually have to hire someone you'll realize that one of the most important parts is finding out what you haven't been told. Either that or you'll hire a bunch of people who rob you blind to pay for meth or because they owe Vinnie the Weasel 18 G's.
The guy who ran a game server with me was hit by a car while riding his bike and his medical bills were over half a million US dollars. Don't worry, he won the lawsuit to cover all expenses and he's doing great
Whoever said healthy people who exercise should pay more for insurance might be onto something. My car was hit while I wad driving about 65mph, and while my car was written off, nobody in either of the cars had any injuries. My friend on his bike was hit by a car going much slower than that and his medical expenses were more than 20x the cost of my car.
As a lazy couch potato myself, I've never had any broken bones, I've never required emergency surgery, I've never had any stitches. One of the guys in my engineering classes is on the school's hockey team and he broke his arm last year while playing hockey.
If I were you I would focus more on productivity and competence...things that you can put in your bank.