is it just me or does football require the least skill of all the major sports?

[JS80]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: JS80

I think all else equal, if you're born with the body, football skills can be "learned." Baseball on the other hand not everyone born with the body can hit a 90 mph pitch or throw the ball 95mph.

oh yeah, and anyone can hit a 90 MPH pitch. All it takes it timing and practice. Anyone can learn this. Everyone knows this.

Can everyone throw the ball 90 yards down the field like Jamarcus russel? Can everyone run sub 4.3 40s? I guess these skills can be 'learned'.

Learned is vastly different than "be good at". Anyone can throw a football. A lot of people can throw it more than 30 yards. Some people can throw it 30 yards accurately. Even less can do it after doing a three step drop. And only a few can do all of that with a couple 300 pound guys barreling at your wanting to snap you half in less than 3 seconds.

Same goes for any other numbers of positions.

I should probably have mentioned "except QB."

I disagree that someone with the physical body can learn to hit a 90mph fastball or throw an accurate 95 mph pitch. And by definition someone who has the physical body can run sub 4.3 40s. I was talking more about learning routes, catching the ball, blocking players, etc.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: evident
football is a very specialized sport. it's also the most taxing on an athlete's body too. calling it the "least skill" obviously is a little trollbaitish dont you think

skill is not the same as athletic ability.

Just shut up now and take your beating.

why, cuz i'm right?
being athletic doesn't mean that you have the coordination to hit a curve ball or field a one hopper, or dribble/shoot a basketball.
you might be able to run around the base path pretty quick, but that's not skill.

And having the coordination to hit a curve ball doesn't mean you have the coordination to leap up and grap an oblong object coming at you at 60-70mph, with your bare hands, with someone else draped all over you.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: sao123
of all the major sports, Id say baseball takes the least amount of skill.

i'd say you're wrong.
baseball is probably the sport that relies most on skill and least on physical attributes.
proof is all the asians in the league and least amount of blacks (percentage-wise).

Someone is seriously working at trolling.

how is this trolling?
i thought it was pretty much accepted that blacks are genetically disposed to physical/athletic superiority, whereas asians aren't.
how many asians were running the 100m at the worlds last month? yeah, thought so.

ichiro isn't an all-star for hitting homeruns. he's there because he's a contact hitter that gets on base.

There aren't more black players in MLB because there are fewer opportunities for most young black men to get into the game. Plus, sports like basketball and football are much more deeply ingrained in the culture than baseball.

Anyway, it's ridiculous to say any of the major sports require the "least" amount of skill because they skills they require are dramatically different. The skills football players spend years honing aren't necessarily applicable to any other sport, but to say they're nonexistent is just trolling.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Gothgar
uea it requires no skill, that is why anyone can go join any team at any time and go probowl

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like it was said... quite a few positions in football require mostly athletic ability of some sort, but not necessarily a great deal of "skill". Skill and athleticism (including raw strength) are not always one in the same. Some positions in football do indeed require a great deal of skill in addition to athleticism. Quarterbacks need precision, as do receivers. It's a mental skill coupled with athleticism for receivers and running backs - they need to have the agility (athleticism) coupled with precision thinking and body alignment to find the ball, lock on to a route, and avoid the defense.

The same can be said for the defensive positions, as far as coupling strength and precision goes, of course depending on the exact position.

Soccer requires far less in the raw strength category, but switches that for endurance. The rest of the necessary athleticism is essentially the same as American Football, but that goes for every position other than the goaltender.
Half backs and strikers require an immense amount of pure athleticism, and a healthy supply of skill. They need the agility and endurance, but also a great deal of explosiveness (but not the explosive strength like in most football positions). The skill is what sets various players apart - how apt they are with their footwork and dribbling varies between players. That's the most important skill, as is the coordination to make use of the agility to avoid players. Also, passing can be said to be a skill equal to dribbling.

Baseball requires precision for batting, along with a combination of agility and strength for swinging. The pitcher is obvious, no need to discuss that. There is ample skill in finding the best path to a just hit ball, and being able to glove it. Throwing, again requires strength, agility, and precision. Base running is a mix of skill and athleticism - the agility and explosiveness, and having the base paths conquered.

Baseball is the one most called out on how much skill and athleticism is required, and this is coupled with players who don't exactly look athletic. Body size doesn't always represent athleticism, again, looking to football players should help clear that one up. Baseball is less about lengthy effort, and more about precision and mentally determining the best path. The less athletic players make up for that lacking ability by being better fielders and having the precision when at bat.
Those skills don't come easy in baseball, I guarantee that. You can be trained for years and still not be up to par.

Go to football and soccer, if you have the required athleticism, most of the skill comes in training.

someone else that gets it.

 

[SunnyD]

Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: HopJokey
I say there isn't a correct answer. They all require different skill-sets/physiques that it is hard to compare them across the board (like what IBS said).

Hitting a fastball is one of the hardest things to do, but how does that compare to going down the middle trying to make a crazy catch with the linebacker coming in at full speed trying to take you out? Etc. etc.

like i said, there's a couple of positions that require skills. qb, kicker, receiver.
the rest of them rely on pure size, strength and speed. more physical ability than skill.

football requires not only skills, but intelligence at every position.
First, every play has like 8 different scenerios. Every player must look at the opposition, analyse it and make the proper decision about what to do in this particular play.
WR: do I run route A,B or C?
RB: If I am getting the ball, which guys do i run between, or which guy do I have to block?
Ol/TE: which Guy do i have to block?
QB: make sure everyone is on the same page, where is it safe to throw, do I need to completely change out of this play?
DEF: which man do I attack

Every position requires a set of skills, which is more than just physical traits.


of all the major sports, Id say baseball takes the least amount of skill.

I think all else equal, if you're born with the body, football skills can be "learned." Baseball on the other hand not everyone born with the body can hit a 90 mph pitch or throw the ball 95mph.

yet baseball signs kids out of high school, while football players don't develop their skills until late into college or even a couple years on the practice squad.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: sao123
of all the major sports, Id say baseball takes the least amount of skill.

i'd say you're wrong.
baseball is probably the sport that relies most on skill and least on physical attributes.
proof is all the asians in the league and least amount of blacks (percentage-wise).

Someone is seriously working at trolling.

how is this trolling?
i thought it was pretty much accepted that blacks are genetically disposed to physical/athletic superiority, whereas asians aren't.
how many asians were running the 100m at the worlds last month? yeah, thought so.

ichiro isn't an all-star for hitting homeruns. he's there because he's a contact hitter that gets on base.

There aren't more black players in MLB because there are fewer opportunities for most young black men to get into the game. Plus, sports like basketball and football are much more deeply ingrained in the culture than baseball.

Exactly. Baseball was/is typically a suburban sport, and a greater percentage of white kids play it versus the percentage of black kids that play it. The reason why there virtually no black ice hockey players is because it's a typically cold weather sport played in cities where there are less black people.

The reason why there are a good number of Japanese and Dominican baseball players is because we "exported" the sport to them, and their cultures value the sport from childhood.

Basketball and football have a lot of black players because they are both sports played a lot in cities and are ingrained into culture.

Track (pure running) is the only thing that you could argue that people of African descent have a genetic advantage in, but that's from thousands of years living in an environment that would necessitate it greater than elsewhere. People from mountainous/hilly areas (like the Kenyans) tend to have more efficient intake of oxygen because of low oxygen at higher altitudes.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: CPA
yet baseball signs kids out of high school, while football players don't develop their skills until late into college or even a couple years on the practice squad.

Doesn't that help my argument?

Is it easier for a baseball player to learn to play football, or easier for a football player to learn to play baseball?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

OP is a retard

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

Are you an idiot? Physical skill is tied to mental skill. Otherwise you could just bring in gorillas to play all our sports.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

Skill is more mental than it is physical. Hell I think even you pointed out that physical ability does not mean you're skilled.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

Are you an idiot? Physical skill is tied to mental skill. Otherwise you could just bring in gorillas to play all our sports.

ok, then everything can be considered mental then, since every action requires our brain to control it.

you're bringing up the intelligence part of the game.
i'm speaking merely of the physical aspect.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

Because mental aspects are huge in games that require "skill". Look to people choking on a free throw, a golfer getting frustrated and misshitting, a receiver seeing a linebacker about ready to clobber him and fumbling the catch. You can have all the skill in the world but if your mind lets you down then it's all for naught.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

ok, then everything can be considered mental then, since every action requires our brain to control it.

you're bringing up the intelligence part of the game.
i'm speaking merely of the physical aspect.

Sort of like having the physical ability to compose and make a post but not the mental ability to actual do anythign with it.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Again, different skill sets for different sports. There's much more to football than pure athletic ability. I'd say baseball is a much less mentally taxing than football though because it's the least team oriented. As a fielder you don't really have to worry abuot what the guy beside you or across from you is going to do (pitchers excepted). With football, you have to understand what your teammate is going to do and when he's going to do it (ie. do I have contain on this play? do I have help over the top?).

I have a hard time believing you're quite this dense and am leaning towards this being a troll post.

why are you bringing up any mental aspects of anything? this is purely about physical skill.

Are you an idiot? Physical skill is tied to mental skill. Otherwise you could just bring in gorillas to play all our sports.

ok, then everything can be considered mental then, since every action requires our brain to control it.

you're bringing up the intelligence part of the game.
i'm speaking merely of the physical aspect.

Ok, you're either an idiot or a troll.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
you're bringing up the intelligence part of the game.
i'm speaking merely of the physical aspect.

Coordination and agility are both mental and physical. Even if you could isolate just the physical aspect, football requires as much skill as any of the major sports. Even if it did require less, it's not significantly less.

You have no way to back up what you are saying, anyway, unless you want to volunteer yourself for trying all these sports professionally (similar to what Shaq is doing).

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: CPA
yet baseball signs kids out of high school, while football players don't develop their skills until late into college or even a couple years on the practice squad.

Doesn't that help my argument?

Is it easier for a baseball player to learn to play football, or easier for a football player to learn to play baseball?

Is it easier for a chess player to learn baseball, or a baseball player to learn chess?

Your argument is weak as all hell.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

When the USA competes in the olympics we dominate against the entire world in sports we generally don't care about. So take the sport that is the most competitive and beloved sport in America (football) that every high school in America competes at it. Take all the best athletes across the country playing high school football send maybe one or two guys to college out of each high school to play college football. So each college athlete is already an elite athlete correct. Well narrow it down to a handful of guys out of all the college athletes to make it to the top level NFL. Your telling me it takes no skill to get to the NFL alone much less succeed at it? What a crock.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: HopJokey
Four major sports in the U.S.A:

Baseball
Basketball
Football
Hockey

Which of the four requires the least skill? All of them require a tremendous level of skill at the top pro level, but the question is which requires the least to be successful (which can you rely on your physical attributes the most in)?

I'd say add soccer to the list and soccer and basketball are pretty much the only sports anyone can just get on the field and play. Basketball a little more difficult.

i would say baseball would be on that list as well. just like everyone can run and throw, everyone can swing a bat as well, just not well. Football is a bit different especially some of the more mobile positions esp on offense. Hockey is in a league of its own in difficulty.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: CPA
yet baseball signs kids out of high school, while football players don't develop their skills until late into college or even a couple years on the practice squad.

Doesn't that help my argument?

Is it easier for a baseball player to learn to play football, or easier for a football player to learn to play baseball?

football player to learn baseball, no contest.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Guess you haven't watched baseball or golf, have you?

guess you don't read thread titles, do you?

and baseball requires much more skill than most give it credit for. i'd say it's probably the hardest of all major sports.

Swing stick at ball someone threw. Get lucky, hit ball with stick. Guy with big glove jog to ball, get lucky and ball drop in glove. Play game again.

I read your thread title. Baseball, simply put, is one of the least athletic and least intelligent sports out there.

Actually, I take that back - for those that consider NASCAR a sport... baseball requires a tad bit more of both athleticism and intelligence than that.

Football, in most all of the positions on the field require far more "skill" than pretty much any position in baseball. I'm not going to bother with examples, because you've made it abundantly obvious that you really don't care.

 

[SP33Demon]

Football (#3) is arguably THE hardest sport along with ice hockey(#2), basketball (#4), and boxing (#1)according to ESPN Analysts and I agree with them. To say football takes no skill shows you are either a) a troll b) ignorant c) mental midget. Or you could be an ignorant, trolling mental midget who knows?

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