Is it possible to oppose gays in today's society?

[mikeymikec]

I should point out that Elevenpog basically did a hit-and-run on this thread.

 

[Sulaco]

I should point out that Elevenpog basically did a hit-and-run on this thread.

...you do realize he was vacationed, right?

 

[mikeymikec]

...you do realize he was vacationed, right?

Ok, lol, I just found this:

Dear Diary
Today I posted a bunch of bullshit on the Anandtech forums for the purposes of seeking attention. Perknose apparently did not approve of my trolling and banned my sorry ass. With no other purpose in life with which to devote my considerable energy, I have determined the best course of action is to use a proxy and to try, try again.

 

[Darwin333]

Blowjobs aren't "natural" but I sure as hell don't want to demonize them because, well, I quite enjoy them. I'd bet that everyone who uses the "gays are unnatural" argument likes a good hummer as well.

Besides, does it really bother you that much to see two guys walking down the street holding hands? It's not like they are fucking in public or anything. If two guys get married how does that impact your life in anyway, shape or form?

Ironically you want to know what isn't natural? Monogamy that's what, millions of years of evolution have designed us to spread our genes as much as possible yet society looks down upon men who knock up multiple women and women who get knocked up by multiple men to give their genes the best chance to continue being passed down. Sure there are a few monogamous creatures in the animal kingdom but that is the severe exception not the rule.

The point being is that we have evolved into a society that does all kinds of shit that isn't "natural" but our society deems acceptable.

 

[Darwin333]

Incest okay with you?

As long as it's between consenting adults I could give fuck all. Hell our history and in fact our very roots have been come from long lines of family interbreeding. I'm not trying to argue that it's smart, just not worthy of any fucks given as long as it is consenting adults.

 

[Darwin333]

What, are you afraid it's going to rub off (no pun intended) on the child?

You wouldn't believe how many people think and act like "the gay" is contagious. I think that's why so many people like the OP are against it. They are afraid that if they are around openly gay people too much that all of a sudden they will have an uncontrollable desire to have a penis in their mouth.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Can you oppose it? sure. you aren't forced to accept it.

What you can't do is discriminate against gays.

You can be a happy little idiot in the privacy of your home all you want.



though i never understood why people care who is fucking who. if it's 2 adults and they wanna fuck then go for it. Not my issue.

b-b-b-but think of the children!!!!

 

[jackstar7]

I often don't agree with you, but this is pretty much how I feel about the gay movement. I think it's ridiculous that society has put them on a pedestal and it's now the cool thing to do and if you don't agree then you're considered a bad person.

Ahhh. The pedestal of not being treated like human garbage.

It is a lofty height to aspire to!

"Gay movement" is an hilarious phrase. They poop the same as you, man. Live and let live.

 

[Spungo]

The only issue I would have with the mom banging the adult son is that an inbred child could have a lot of issues and/or health problems.

So when banging your mom, wear a condom.

But following that logic, we would need to pass laws to enforce eugenics. Those exact same ideas Hitler copied from us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
As any good libertarian will say, allowing the government to dictate who is allowed to reproduce is extremely dangerous. People always say "but it's different this time!!" even though it's never different. Giving that much power to government is bad.

Blowjobs aren't "natural"

Yes it is. Things like tasting and smelling a person are to see how healthy they are. This is why some men smell panties.
Speaking of which, good advice is to follow your nose. If something smells really bad, it's probably really bad. Those senses exist for a reason.

 

[IronWing]

Is it possible to oppose gays in today's society?

Bad title, stop making me think of really un-PC video game ideas.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I often don't agree with you, but this is pretty much how I feel about the gay movement. I think it's ridiculous that society has put them on a pedestal and it's now the cool thing to do and if you don't agree then you're considered a bad person. Completely absurd really. It's getting worse too because now transgender is the cool new thing. I'm sure beastiality is eventually going to be accepted too.

People also seem to think that if you don't agree with them you automatically hate them. That's not true at all. Parents may not agree with their kids doing drugs, but if they find out their kids do drugs they don't hate them. Same idea. I would treat a gay person the same way I would treat a straight person.

I think you are missing the basic logic behind why homosexuality and not transgenderism is becoming more acceptable. It has to do with the concept as it harm none, do what ye will. Bestiality will not become accepted because it harms animals. That is the problem with the slippery slope argument, it is based on the wrong idea on why people are becoming more accepting.

It is also why it is hard to believe that you can oppose gay people yet claim that you are not prejudice against them. You are saying that you oppose what they are but not who they are. Those two things are so close to each other that it is hard to see any daylight between them, especially when you mistake the basic concept of why the rest of society accepts them, the fact that they are not hurting anyone so there is no reason to keep them from doing what makes them happy.

You are literally saying that they make you uncomfortable so they should not be allowed to be happy all so that you don't have to feel uncomfortable occasionally.

 

[werepossum]

Ok, lol, I just found this:

I missed that too. And yes, it's classic.

 

[JSt0rm]

so does that mean Sonikku is a elevenpog alt? Im confused.

 

[Atreus21]

:thumbsup:

I'm not sure why it's so difficult to understand the logic behind supporting these things.
Two men fucking = acceptable.
A man fucking a boy = bad.
40 year old woman sleeping with her 20 year old son = acceptable.
30 year old woman sleeping with her 10 year old son = bad.

What's the common theme here? Children. Don't force things on children. It's that simple.

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Because modernity so detests objective standards, you have now opened yourself to accepting incest. "Consenting adults" is the supposed standard, but it has no more authority than "1 man and 1 woman."

 

[Zorkorist]

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Because modernity so detests objective standards, you have now opened yourself to accepting incest. "Consenting adults" is the supposed standard, but it has no more authority than "1 man and 1 woman."

There's nothing arbitrary about it. Consensual sex, however weird, is ok. Non-Consensual sex, is not ok.

-John

 

[sandorski]

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Because modernity so detests objective standards, you have now opened yourself to accepting incest. "Consenting adults" is the supposed standard, but it has no more authority than "1 man and 1 woman."

No, Modernity recognizes Objective Standards as nonsense. Standards need to be based upon Principles, which are derived by weighing the Pros, Cons, and Consequences of situations.

 

[Sonikku]

so does that mean Sonikku is a elevenpog alt? Im confused.

Not even I am that good of a troll. :'(

The "Dear Diary" post was some what of a parody interpretation of how I would perceive an honest day's entry from Pog would go if he kept a diary.

 

[dank69]

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Because modernity so detests objective standards, you have now opened yourself to accepting incest. "Consenting adults" is the supposed standard, but it has no more authority than "1 man and 1 woman."

Lol. Completely not arbitrary.

 

[waggy]

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Because modernity so detests objective standards, you have now opened yourself to accepting incest. "Consenting adults" is the supposed standard, but it has no more authority than "1 man and 1 woman."

what?

no.. not arbitrary at all. 2 adults can fuck. hell 3+ can too! have fun! stay safe.

now. when you bring kids into it? that's not ok.


I do not enjoy having sex with a guy. I do not find guys sexy. I do not get turned on by guys. So I do not have gay sex.

SHIT! seems pretty damn easy to me.

 

[mikeymikec]

And completely arbitrary.

In the end it boils down to ick factor, just like it did with gays 20 or so years ago if we are to buy the left's argument. It's bigotry by the same standard that opposition to gay marriage was. We're simply not comfortable with the idea of children having sex because it offends our sensibilities.

Do you really need the reasons pointing out why children having sex is a bad idea? Do you understand the concept of consent and the capacity to do so?

 

[Rakehellion]

Bad title, stop making me think of really un-PC video game ideas.

Download Cobra Club. :thumbsup:

 

[justoh]

marriage is about love and commitment, not sodomy. It's also between two human adults, involving mutal assent - a contract - so it's a sensible extension made to same sex couples, and completely nonsensical when talking about animals or toasters.

Stupid religious bastards

 

[bradly1101]

It seems like today's environment you are labeled a bigot if you don't accept guys banging guys and I don't understand why.

That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is not something that should be accepted or celebrated. It should not be something that is protected by law. If you want to do things to guys in the darkness of your own bedroom then whatever, just keep it out of public spotlight. But it seems like today's environment promotes homosexuality, it seems like it is "cool" to be gay and like gay things. Since when did this become a thing?

It is unnatural, biologically speaking, and if you disagree then you are disagreeing with millions of years of evolution and I will ALWAYS find you wrong. I can't even believe it is a debatable thing. But I guess here we are. So...with all of that being said where do you stand ATOT? Why is this an OK thing in our society?

Clarification: Just to clarify before I get the witch-hunt out for me I'm not saying to castrate gays and burn them at the stake, I am simply saying why are we publicizing and glamorizing such an act? If you want to be gay be gay on your own time, out of the spotlight. Don't make it some sort of publicized thing that should be 'respected' because it shouldn't be.

The law protects people who have been mistreated. Heck, I was violently gay bashed when I was in my early twenties, and other types of discrimination abound. It would be easy for gay people to "keep things on the down-low" if straights would stop harassing them and calling them "unnatural." It's not a choice.

 

[Spungo]

No, Modernity recognizes Objective Standards as nonsense.

Objectively, the bible says you're suppose to murder people working on the sabbath

It's nice that western civilization has managed to escape theocracy. Our friends in the middle east are still neck deep in the struggle.

 

[piasabird]

You have freedom of speech and so do all the people you dislike. Unless people are having sex in the park or in public restrooms there is not much you can do about it. Everyone has equal rights as long as you are not harassing people. You dont have to accept them or talk to them, but you do have to let them exist in a civil society. However, if you want to point the finger and give them dirty looks feel free.