Is it possible to oppose gays in today's society?

[compuwiz1]

That's perfectly fine. So you support gays having equal rights?

Yes, with two exceptions - if you are physically a man, stay out of the women's restroom and if you are physically a woman, stay out of the men's restroom. I don't believe in invasion of privacy and I consider a restroom a private, gender specific space.


Also, there is no amount of argument that will change my mind, that parents deciding the gender identity of a child, is anything less than child abuse.

Somethings have just gone too far and become too politicized and imposed upon us.

 

[compuwiz1]

I'm actually good with the idea that Gay people should be shunned and ostracized from society. The idea that what they do and who they are is un-natural is a great foundation.

I'm also fundamentally opposed to anyone with deformities. I saw a small child on the street who had a severely defformed arm. I walked right up to his mother and told her that she should be ashamed to bring such a horrible, un-natural thing out in public. I didn't spit on the child, but I really wanted to. What stopped me was the realization that it wasn't his fault because he was young and didn't know better. His mother was the one that really needed to be taught a lesson. After that day, I've made a mission of trying to force those un-natural mutations from our view.

I'll have you know that i'm a good christian, which is why I'm not saying that they should be hauled off and put on an island or something. I'm just saying that they shouldn't be allowed in public where my children can see them. Can you imagine the questions they would ask? I would have to explain why God would make a creature so disgusting and that would be too painful to take.

People should be persuaded to shun and ostracize those individual that are so different from ourselves or that they make us uncomfortable.

Thankfully I live in the great state of Indiana and I now have the backing of the state legislature to formally refuse business to those disgusting creatures. I have a small shop in South Bend that sells all sorts of medical appliance for the elderly in the town. Good, christian folks all of them. I've only had to refuse service to a few people over the last couple weeks. There was a blind man, who was born with no sight...another disfigurement that was un-natural and against GOD's Will. I asked him politely to leave...and you know what...he got mad... at me? He was the one flaunting around town, clipping his little stick along the sidewalk. It was awful to see. I told the local Sheriff about it, but he wasn't going to cause a stir, what will all of the Political correctness going around.

I'm just happy to see that there are more people like the OP that believe we should only be civil to the "real" humans. Just like Christ always said, "If you are not born of the same bone and the same skin as I, you shall be shunned by all matter of nature and left to rot on the wastes to feed the lowest of the creatures."

Go Drumpf!

Please be satire. Who was your pastor, Fred Phelps?

 

[renz20003]

What's awkward about an open bar at the reception and all the wedding cake you can eat? It's not like you have to kiss the bride, you know.

When a guy comes up to you while your sitting at the bar and asks "Excuse me can I push in your stool?"

 

[MongGrel]

When a guy comes up to you while your sitting at the bar and asks "Excuse me can I push in your stool?"

One of the coolest guys I ever met was a major cruise line rep for the entire southeastern US.

He worked pretty closely with the wife when she was managing a cruise agency, I would have not even known he was homosexual other then the wife let me know it and he didn't flash it around like a badge.

Even worked in invites for me to come with the wife on a few exclusive fam cruises just because he liked having the wife and I both along on them when they were just supposed to be exclusive invites where she was supposed to get one only.

Hell of a good person.

Springsteen cancels North Carolina concert over 'anti-gay' law


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36000905

 

[Linux23]

I find it funny that personal insults are okay here, but sex talk is not. Its like we are allowed to do adult things on this section in terms of words, unless its about penis and vagina. Fuck head, cool. Your penis goes where?!?!?!?! better not say that shit again!

Yup. Pretty funny ain't it. Sad the double bs standards on this forum.

Oh and add racism to that list. Perfectly fine here.

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[Exophase]

As is being gay a social construct. No evidence no gene no nothing has definitively said that you were born gay. But if you put people around that like what the media is doing you get an explosion of people all of a sudden being born gay even though they are mature adults.

Let's for the sake of argument say you're right and people become gay exclusively because of factors in their environment or development and not because of how they were born. I don't think the evidence supports this but let's suppose so. If it (virtually always) can't be changed anyway then what difference does it make?

I mean you know gay conversion therapy doesn't work despite great pains and efforts right? Despite so many people desperately wishing they were just straight and a lot of them killing themselves when they've failed to be?

 

[flexy]

I am simply saying why are we publicizing and glamorizing such an act? If you want to be gay be gay on your own time, out of the spotlight.

I'd like to know where YOU (personally) have the impression that being gay is glamorized and "out into the spotlight"?

If you are referring to TV or certain other types of media...."being gay" is put "into the spotlight" for the reason that it's (still) controversial.

A good example would be so called fake "reality TV shows" which, let me assure you, are carefully crafted in advance so as to create the most controversy/hype etc. ------> RATINGS -----> MONEY

For example, those types of shows where the makers of the show deliberately put different personalities in a house to live together...and bet they will put a homosexual in there along with, if possible, a person who has the exact opposite view and might be shunning homosexuals. Or, say a hippie...alongside with with a banker.

Now, millions of people will watch this stupid, fake show and will follow how the hippie (or the gay) gets along with the banker...or the redneck.

GET IT? Do you understand the motive behind it?

In reality however, life is not a fake TV reality show. From my experience, gays don't often exactly advertise they're gay...maybe in some very progressive "communities" like Boystown Chicago etc...but then they're also not exactly "advertizing" they're gay...they're simply living their lives more open because in those communities they know it's not a problem to show they're gay.

I'd still like to know where in "normal" life, normal work, normal every-day life it happens that gays are "glamorizing" their sexuality...in a way that goes beyond legitimate calling that they have equal rights like anyone else. And seeing what happened in Miss. they have every right to demand equal rights, now even more so.

 

[Ichinisan]

I'm actually good with the idea that Gay people should be shunned and ostracized from society. The idea that what they do and who they are is un-natural is a great foundation.

I'm also fundamentally opposed to anyone with deformities. I saw a small child on the street who had a severely defformed arm. I walked right up to his mother and told her that she should be ashamed to bring such a horrible, un-natural thing out in public. I didn't spit on the child, but I really wanted to. What stopped me was the realization that it wasn't his fault because he was young and didn't know better. His mother was the one that really needed to be taught a lesson. After that day, I've made a mission of trying to force those un-natural mutations from our view.

I'll have you know that i'm a good christian, which is why I'm not saying that they should be hauled off and put on an island or something. I'm just saying that they shouldn't be allowed in public where my children can see them. Can you imagine the questions they would ask? I would have to explain why God would make a creature so disgusting and that would be too painful to take.

People should be persuaded to shun and ostracize those individual that are so different from ourselves or that they make us uncomfortable.

Thankfully I live in the great state of Indiana and I now have the backing of the state legislature to formally refuse business to those disgusting creatures. I have a small shop in South Bend that sells all sorts of medical appliance for the elderly in the town. Good, christian folks all of them. I've only had to refuse service to a few people over the last couple weeks. There was a blind man, who was born with no sight...another disfigurement that was un-natural and against GOD's Will. I asked him politely to leave...and you know what...he got mad... at me? He was the one flaunting around town, clipping his little stick along the sidewalk. It was awful to see. I told the local Sheriff about it, but he wasn't going to cause a stir, what will all of the Political correctness going around.

I'm just happy to see that there are more people like the OP that believe we should only be civil to the "real" humans. Just like Christ always said, "If you are not born of the same bone and the same skin as I, you shall be shunned by all matter of nature and left to rot on the wastes to feed the lowest of the creatures."

Go Drumpf!

Please be satire. Who was your pastor, Fred Phelps?

 

[JSt0rm]

come on everyone that was satire. It was well done though.

 

[MongGrel]

reserved.

 

[Zaap]

I love how the big "problem" with gays is always "two dudes doin' it! Gross!"

But "two chicks doin' it"? Nodda problem!

 

[Exophase]

I wish people didn't keep responding to homophobes by insisting they must be secretly gay.

I don't know how much of it is because you really think that or how much is because you're just trying to piss them off. But when it isn't true (and it probably usually isn't) you'll just make them feel more validated due to it seeming like the only response you have is insulting lies.

 

[swamplizard]

Greetings,

I'll be glad when this is no longer a topic. D:

 

[Moonbeam]

too stupid not to know the word? that's on you sir.

Just so you know, because of filthy ignoramuses like yourself, who force on society at large the putrid sounds of your vulgar use of the word irregardless, to the consternation every cultured and educated English speaker, the world, as, as in the case with homosexuals, is forced to accept your ugliness as an acceptable alternative to what every normal speaker would say by having the word introduced to dictionaries regardless of the fact that it is obviously only used by uneducated shit. It is the law of dictionaries that words get into dictionaries because of usage and uneducated trash like you learn somehow to speak. Your ugliness is offensive beyond measure but it tickles me to know end that the thought of gays makes your ass chafe. Gays, big fucking deal, it's your language that is truly fucking queer.

So for the rest of your life, every time you use that word non word irregardless. your ass will pucker and you will think of Moonbeam.

 

[Linux23]

Irregardless

Where did I say I hated gays?

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[elitejp]

Let's for the sake of argument say you're right and people become gay exclusively because of factors in their environment or development and not because of how they were born. I don't think the evidence supports this but let's suppose so. If it (virtually always) can't be changed anyway then what difference does it make?

I mean you know gay conversion therapy doesn't work despite great pains and efforts right? Despite so many people desperately wishing they were just straight and a lot of them killing themselves when they've failed to be?

I've read accounts otherwise that when treated as a physiological issue that a high percentage become straight.
This is another serious problem that I find. You and I both will be able to find scientific reviews that will say the total opposite of what the other study says.

A few good points have been addressed. Like the post about the cruise line guy who was gay. He didn't see the need to make sure every single person around him also knew he was gay. I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

 

[mikeymikec]

A few good points have been addressed. Like the post about the cruise line guy who was gay. He didn't see the need to make sure every single person around him also knew he was gay. I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

Every single homosexual you've encountered has told you that they're gay? How would you know that exactly?

 

[elitejp]

Every single homosexual you've encountered has told you that they're gay? How would you know that exactly?

Really? That's what you got out of reading my post?
Come back after you grow up and can discuss things

 

[K1052]

I've read accounts otherwise that when treated as a physiological issue that a high percentage become straight.
This is another serious problem that I find. You and I both will be able to find scientific reviews that will say the total opposite of what the other study says.

A few good points have been addressed. Like the post about the cruise line guy who was gay. He didn't see the need to make sure every single person around him also knew he was gay. I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

Basically every medical body in the US that's looked at it impartially has deemed conversion therapy almost totally ineffective at best and potentially psychologically harmful as well. The preponderance of actual work that wasn't commissioned by people trying to justify their beliefs also points to this conclusion.

I don't feel a need, like you apparently do, to have everyone conform to my standard of behavior or personality. Also you are, in fact, telling people what you think/feel/belive right here on a public forum. Mind keeping these things to yourself?

 

[mikeymikec]

Really? That's what you got out of reading my post?
Come back after you grow up and can discuss things

You basically said that homosexuals go around telling everyone what they think, feel or believe in a forum thread that's about homosexuality.

I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

The only other point that I can pull out from there is that you don't require anyone to accept these personal opinions, beliefs and political views of yours that you're not going around telling everyone about, but that really doesn't make much sense.

Sorry, I went for the point I thought you were making that was logical despite being a stupid point to make. You can try again if you like.

The only other thing I'm wondering whether you need pointing out is that someone is likely to take offence if they happen to find out that you have a problem with their existence.

 

[sdifox]

I've read accounts otherwise that when treated as a physiological issue that a high percentage become straight.
This is another serious problem that I find. You and I both will be able to find scientific reviews that will say the total opposite of what the other study says.

A few good points have been addressed. Like the post about the cruise line guy who was gay. He didn't see the need to make sure every single person around him also knew he was gay. I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

Accounts <> scentific study. Link some scientific studies that is vetted by peers that says the conversion works.

 

[elitejp]

No Mike, I didn't say every homosexual does that. Reread the post.
I basically said they could live their life any way they like but they don't need to try to convince me to accept it. Just like I don't try to convince them to be the way I am.
I can't believe that I had to explain that.

 

[LPCTech]

Guys having buttsex with each other hurts no one. Religion has hurt millions but they get to be tax exempt. And hate on everyone. This is the logic of the bigot. Belief in unprovable fantasy dictating real life. And abusing everyone else with a smile on their face. I'm not gay. But every gay person I have personally met has been the nicest person ever and not all, but many, a great many of religious people I've met are rank assholes who use their faith to justify hatred and violence.

So I say we get rid of tax exempt status for any religion, or do away with this hateful fantasy persecution club before we DARE to question how people want to enjoy sex and with who.

How bout that.

 

[MajinCry]

EliteJP, that's exactly what you stated. Maybe read what you type once in a while?

I've read accounts otherwise that when treated as a physiological issue that a high percentage become straight.
This is another serious problem that I find. You and I both will be able to find scientific reviews that will say the total opposite of what the other study says.

A few good points have been addressed. Like the post about the cruise line guy who was gay. He didn't see the need to make sure every single person around him also knew he was gay. I have personal opinions, beliefs, political views but I don't go around telling everyone I meet what I think, feel, or believe. And I certainly don't require anyone to accept these personal issues about me. So why can't homosexuals do the same?

What you said is sucky and stupid. It's better to address it, than to deny you said it. Especially when everybody can see that you ruddy did.

 

[SlowSpyder]

We do lots of things that are 'unnatural'. So even if we agreed that what homosexuals did was unnatural, seeing as it hurts no one I don't really care. Consenting adults can do whatever they want if they're not infringing on other's rights. To me seeing a gay couple in public is no different than seeing a straight couple... just a few people trying to find happiness in their own way. Its weird to me, I could never do it, but I don't care what someone else does or likes and I see no reason they should shy away from being who they are in the public's eye. Why do people want to oppose them?