yeah a director and mod. on equal grounds and no conflict of interest. give me a break
Moderators are forum users as well. Perknose was posting his personal opinion regarding the topic, allisom was acting in his capacity as moderator.
Cool. Let's have one that is factual and scientifically rigorous. It's time to put the ignorant canard that having gay parents is harmful to an adopted child's development to rest.
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It seems like today's environment you are labeled a bigot if you don't accept guys banging guys and I don't understand why.
That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is not something that should be accepted or celebrated. It should not be something that is protected by law. If you want to do things to guys in the darkness of your own bedroom then whatever, just keep it out of public spotlight. But it seems like today's environment promotes homosexuality, it seems like it is "cool" to be gay and like gay things. Since when did this become a thing?
It is unnatural, biologically speaking, and if you disagree then you are disagreeing with millions of years of evolution and I will ALWAYS find you wrong. I can't even believe it is a debatable thing. But I guess here we are. So...with all of that being said where do you stand ATOT? Why is this an OK thing in our society?
Clarification: Just to clarify before I get the witch-hunt out for me I'm not saying to castrate gays and burn them at the stake, I am simply saying why are we publicizing and glamorizing such an act? If you want to be gay be gay on your own time, out of the spotlight. Don't make it some sort of publicized thing that should be 'respected' because it shouldn't be.
Moved from OT for now but still being discussed at the Admin level.
Perknose
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On the other hand some people dwell on this stuff and are willing to hurt or kill gays just because.
I don't get it at all.
It seems like today's environment you are labeled a bigot if you don't accept guys banging guys and I don't understand why.
That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is not something that should be accepted or celebrated.
It should not be something that is protected by law.
If you want to do things to guys in the darkness of your own bedroom then whatever, just keep it out of public spotlight.
But it seems like today's environment promotes homosexuality, it seems like it is "cool" to be gay and like gay things. Since when did this become a thing?
It is unnatural, biologically speaking, and if you disagree then you are disagreeing with millions of years of evolution and I will ALWAYS find you wrong.
I can't even believe it is a debatable thing.
But I guess here we are. So...with all of that being said where do you stand ATOT? Why is this an OK thing in our society?
Clarification: Just to clarify before I get the witch-hunt out for me I'm not saying to castrate gays and burn them at the stake, I am simply saying why are we publicizing and glamorizing such an act? If you want to be gay be gay on your own time, out of the spotlight. Don't make it some sort of publicized thing that should be 'respected' because it shouldn't be.
Atreus21: please tell us about the first time you thought about gay men touching and kissing each other.
Seems like your issue here (besides the amusing victim mentality anyway) is you don't understand that actively fighting gay rights and seeking to disenfranchise them wherever possible is where the bigotry comes in. Gay people probably couldn't care less what you personally think of them and their lifestyle, it's about rights - the things you yourself would be fighting for if indeed your lifestyle were in someone's legislative crosshairs.
Act like a bigot, get called a bigot. Pretty straight forward really.
You're entitled to that opinion, no matter how much fail it involves. No problem here at all, until you start demanding others follow your line of thinking.
See above.
The plethora of anti-gay republicans caught smoking another guy's hog would indicate this is harder to do than you would think.
When ideas or people that have been repressed for a long time gain empowerment and acceptance, sometimes things get festive and people are happy. My advice is to just get on with your life and quit caring so much about if there are people out there who think penis is delicious. This can prove difficult for social authoritarians with religious backgrounds and agendas, but oh well. Liberty and freedom are kind of a big deal in this country, if that's a problem for you maybe it's time to move to a location that mirrors your own personal views on those subjects.
Tell that to bonobo chimpanzees, our closest biological relative. You can't even figure out civil rights and you want to tackle 'millions of years of evolution,'? :biggrin: Oh you
Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
Because we have this thing called the Constitution, and if you take exception with what's in it and want it changed you'll need something better than dogmatic religious bullshit or odious personal opinion. A better question: why do you and other social authoritarians think it's OK to ignore the parts of the Constitution you don't like? What do you think this is, bible class? I'll stand on the side of liberty. Choose the side of discrimination if you want, just don't be surprised when you get called out on it, or laughed at when you attempt to justify it.
Right, it's the responsibility of others to conform to your delicate, easily offended sensibilities. Wouldn't want that contagious gay to spread now would we?
Gay communities try to celebrate and empower themselves because people like you have spent a lot of time and money trying to do the opposite. You are essentially asking "Why can't gay people stay out of my sight, why should I be exposed to their presence?" You realize that makes you sound like a complete pussy, right? I bet if secular humanists asked christians to stop celebrating their religion, to just do that shit at home, keep it out of sight, you social authoritarians would be just fine with that, right? Even though holy rollers go apoplectic if someone merely asks them not to put a christmas display on public land. You guys are funny, always the victim. :biggrin:
OP is likely living somewhere rural and has never ever SEEN a gay or has any significant exposure to them, in any way.
It may not be thoughts about adults touching and kissing.
Good point. It never occurred to me but he certainly dwells on the topic of man boy/girl love.
There are times when I think maybe we should ask where on the doll he was touched.
This is not the answer. If the conversation is shut down, people start to think they are the silent majority. People can't be proven wrong unless there is open debate.Oh ffs.... lock this shit down already. Homophobic bigotry is repost of a repost of a repost and has no place here.
I find it funny that personal insults are okay here, but sex talk is not. Its like we are allowed to do adult things on this section in terms of words, unless its about penis and vagina. Fuck head, cool. Your penis goes where?!?!?!?! better not say that shit again!
It seems like today's environment you are labeled a bigot if you don't accept guys banging guys and I don't understand why.
That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is not something that should be accepted or celebrated. It should not be something that is protected by law. If you want to do things to guys in the darkness of your own bedroom then whatever, just keep it out of public spotlight. But it seems like today's environment promotes homosexuality, it seems like it is "cool" to be gay and like gay things. Since when did this become a thing?
It is unnatural, biologically speaking, and if you disagree then you are disagreeing with millions of years of evolution and I will ALWAYS find you wrong. I can't even believe it is a debatable thing. But I guess here we are. So...with all of that being said where do you stand ATOT? Why is this an OK thing in our society?
Clarification: Just to clarify before I get the witch-hunt out for me I'm not saying to castrate gays and burn them at the stake, I am simply saying why are we publicizing and glamorizing such an act? If you want to be gay be gay on your own time, out of the spotlight. Don't make it some sort of publicized thing that should be 'respected' because it shouldn't be.
My position on this is, while it goes against my personal beliefs, it's not for me to decide who people can be.
I'm rather surprised that the religious aspect of this topic hasn't been broached yet, seeing as if the most influential resistance to the gay agenda has been through the churches.
Jus' say'in.
My position on this is, while it goes against my personal beliefs, it's not for me to decide who people can be. Just don't get in my face about it, just live as you do, leave me alone and I will leave you alone. Live and let live. I certainly would not discriminate against anyone because of their sexual orientation. I do, however, have an issue with the bathroom thing. I believe people need to use the bathroom, according to their physical gender. I'd have a problem with a guy going into my daughter's bathroom or locker room. She agrees with me and says it would make her feel violated and very uncomfortable.
My position on this is, while it goes against my personal beliefs, it's not for me to decide who people can be. Just don't get in my face about it, just live as you do, leave me alone and I will leave you alone. Live and let live. I certainly would not discriminate against anyone because of their sexual orientation.