Is it true?

[tvfreakazoid]

I read that AMD are discontinuing the Opreton's? Why?

 

[phr0m]

they are not shipping socket 939 opterons to retail sellers anymore becuase they want opertrons in workstations only i guess

 

[Captante]

Yes its true... in other words if you want a socket 939 Opteron, the time to get it is now before prices start going up!

 

[tvfreakazoid]

Originally posted by: Captante
Yes its true... in other words if you want a socket 939 Opteron, the time to get it is now before prices start going up!

I was reading that x2's are locked Mulitplier? what does that mean? And second are the Opretons locked as well? Does it make a difference when it's locked or not?

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: imanub

Originally posted by: Captante
Yes its true... in other words if you want a socket 939 Opteron, the time to get it is now before prices start going up!

I was reading that x2's are locked Mulitplier? what does that mean? And second are the Opretons locked as well? Does it make a difference when it's locked or not?

They are both multiplier locked. With an unlocked chip, you can overclock just by changing the multiplier to a higher one, while leaving everything else at stock speeds. With locked chips, you have to increase the FSB in order to overclock. Usualy only engineering samples can come unlocked, I believe the Athlon FX's, and some of the Pentium Extreme Editions have unlocked multipliers as well.

 

[Wentelteefje]

That's the very sad truth...

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

IMO this whole opteron thing was just a strategy from AMD to hide their massive production problems of _normal_ A64.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
IMO this whole opteron thing was just a strategy from AMD to hide their massive production problems of _normal_ A64.

This may be true. Production problems, jealousy between server sales force and retail sales force, etc.

Amd wont produce anymore opertrons so x2s can be sold. This is simply unacceptable. The market should get what the market wants.

 

[Chumster]

Originally posted by: Captante
Yes its true... in other words if you want a socket 939 Opteron, the time to get it is now before prices start going up!

Link? Folks have been saying this for awhile. And while it seems to have pushed prices up, they're still being sold at all major online shops.

Chum

 

[OatMan]

yeah last I read from AMD they debunked the last incarnation of this rumor and said that they would be producing and or supporting (forget the wording know it makes a difference) opterons for 939 at least through 2006

 

[Captante]

From what I've read, production of the skt 939 Opterons isn't going to cease, but AMD is going to stop shipping them to retail suppliers so they'll become harder to get your hands on in normal supply channels... I'm too lazy to go back & get you a link, but the most recnt place I saw this information was in the forum on DFI's website, wether its accurate or not is anybodys guess.

 

[Skott]

Yeah, supposedly they plan to make it so you can only get it if you order an entire system. I guess they make an agreement with PC vendors. Those that agree get them those that dont may not get any. December was supposedly the last month but the supply line will have to dry up some first I guess before they actually make the switch.

 

[Chumster]

Originally posted by: Captante
From what I've read, production of the skt 939 Opterons isn't going to cease, but AMD is going to stop shipping them to retail suppliers so they'll become harder to get your hands on in normal supply channels... I'm too lazy to go back & get you a link, but the most recnt place I saw this information was in the forum on DFI's website, wether its accurate or not is anybodys guess.

Well, I guess that's my point. Folks have "seen it reported in an unofficial post on a unofficial forum", but I can't find one piece of evidence that anything like this is actually happening. In fact, between yesterday and today, the Opt 165 at a number of sights actually dropped in price (back down to the $310 range from yesterday's $330-340). 'Course, newegg is still up near the top, but that's nothing new these days.

Originally posted by: Skott
Yeah, supposedly they plan to make it so you can only get it if you order an entire system. I guess they make an agreement with PC vendors. Those that agree get them those that dont may not get any. December was supposedly the last month but the supply line will have to dry up some first I guess before they actually make the switch.

And yet, Monarch seems to be getting more in at the end of the month. Most other online sellers have them in stock.


Chum

 

[Skott]

I've always said its been a rumor. I cant say I have seen an official announcement from AMD. I have seen the so called experts (those sites that do the reviews and benchmark testing) say it as well so there may be some truth to it. Until it actually happens though its just rumor. I think there is some truth that AMD doesnt like how people flocked to the Opty procs instead of the X2s. So I think AMD will try in some way to discourage people either by limiting how you can buy the Optys or adjusting their prices to make the X2s more desirable. Some people are already saying the later batches arent as overclockable as the earlier batches. Maybe AMD has done it on purpose? I dont know.


I suspect Monarch will continue to get Optys since they do sell them in their systems. Wether AMD can actually enforce the so called rumored rule is another thing altogether. Assuming the rumor is true. AMD might have decided to backtrack on enforcing it for all we know. Assuming its true.

In any event if you want an Opty and can get one then do so and dont worry about it would be my advice to folks.

 

[Captante]

It seems to me it would be stupid for AMD to do somthing that might lead to selling fewer CPUs & phasing out the 939 Opterons might do just that.. I doubt the impact would be severe because most casual users, even those familar with AMD have no idea what an Opteron is & the only people that buy them other then companys building servers are enthusiests like us.

 

[OatMan]

Originally posted by: Skott
I have seen the so called experts (those sites that do the reviews and benchmark testing) say it as well so there may be some truth to it. Until it actually happens though its just rumor. I think there is some truth that AMD doesnt like how people flocked to the Opty procs instead of the X2s...

Please Post links? I haven't seen anything but forums talk on this.

PS - AMD oficially declared that 939 Opterons would be produced and supported at least until 2007. It did not say however that they would be available to any retail market. So there is no doubt that 939 Opty support will exist for at least one more year OFFICIALLY from AMD. But nothing about access to them over that time span.

So If you have an opty, no worries. If you don't will there be less supply and price gouging to come, or is this all just a bunch of the same B.S. unsubstantiated story being told over and over???

 

[tvfreakazoid]

Originally posted by: OatMan

Originally posted by: Skott
I have seen the so called experts (those sites that do the reviews and benchmark testing) say it as well so there may be some truth to it. Until it actually happens though its just rumor. I think there is some truth that AMD doesnt like how people flocked to the Opty procs instead of the X2s...

Please Post links? I haven't seen anything but forums talk on this.

PS - AMD oficially declared that 939 Opterons would be produced and supported at least until 2007. It did not say however that they would be available to any retail market. So there is no doubt that 939 Opty support will exist for at least one more year OFFICIALLY from AMD. But nothing about access to them over that time span.

So If you have an opty, no worries. If you don't will there be less supply and price gouging to come, or is this all just a bunch of the same B.S. unsubstantiated story being told over and over???

It's what I read in other forums. I first saw it when i was at newegg and how the customers give there review on there products they buy. And a couple of other forums as well. But other than that, nothing concrete.:evil:

 

[OatMan]

though not much better than a tabloid, the INQ is the only "evidence" I've found. So perhaps the conspiracy to stop the Opty enthusiast is true?

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29095

 

[Skott]

Wouldnt suprise me if they price the Optys higher than the X2s. The rumors been flying for two months now that AMD was going to do something. Considering the Opty doesnt really OC much, if any, higher than the X2 on aircooling that'll probably solve the problem to AMD's satisfaction. This still allows the consumer to buy the Opty chip without buying an entirely new system. Thats always a plus. Lesser of two evils anyway. Have to wait and see what happens.

 

[OatMan]

Yeah, its all hype really. The X2s and Optys are the same thing. Its really just luck of the draw. "Unlucky" is an OC of only 2.4 or 2.5 and lucky is an OC of 2.7 or better.

those 200 MHz or so don't mean squat in the real world, but I admit I'm as guilty as anyone. I have one opty and am going to start testing a second. Why? no practicle reason, its just FUN!

whatever right?