Is kerry pro-gun?

[Zebo]

anyone know his stance and how he leans?

Honestly I don't care about any of the "issues" everyone keeps talking about...

National Security? we can kick anyones ass so bad they won't even think about it...

Terror? Hunt them down kill kill kill..should be done on the fairly cheap in my mind since it should all be special forces.

Economy & Jobs? Well those things have a way of working themselves out with resoucreful americans as we are

Health Care? Everyone already has health care.

Energy? It's cheap why complain?

Homeland Security? see terrorism.

Education? Should be free but it's already close enough for those bright enough.

Taxes? I barley pay them.


What i DO care about is the constitution in it's entirety and our individual rights...to bear...to not be randomly searched w/o warrant etc etc etc... Hows kerry on these???

 

[T2T III]

Well, this might explain it:

"I don`t want to be the candidate of the NRA, I don`t want our party to be the party of the NRA."

--Senator John Kerry

Source: NRA - ILA

 

[nageov3t]

from the Kerry website:

John Kerry is a gun owner and he believes in the right to bear arms. During his announcement speech, Kerry emphasized his strong belief in the Second Amendment by saying bluntly: ?I?m a hunter and I believe in the Second Amendment.? Additionally, Kerry has said he will work to defend hunting rights. ?I enjoy going hunting. I'm prepared to stand up and defend common sense on guns.? [Kerry Remarks at Mt. Pleasant, SC 9/2/03; ABC News, This Week with George Stephanopoulos, 11/10/02]

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Well, this might explain it:

"I don`t want to be the candidate of the NRA, I don`t want our party to be the party of the NRA."

--Senator John Kerry

Source: NRA - ILA

Good for him. It doesn't mean he is against repealing the Second Ammendment.

 

[Dissipate]

They say that Gore's anti-gun stance lost him the election in '00, so Kerry's political analysts have probably told him to back off on the rabid anti-gun rhetoric.

 

[Todd33]

.to not be randomly searched w/o warrant etc etc etc.

He is for revising the Patriot act too, thank God. Which was supposed to be temparary, like the tax cuts. I guess you lie to sneak these things in and then make them permanent.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Well, this might explain it:

"I don`t want to be the candidate of the NRA, I don`t want our party to be the party of the NRA."

--Senator John Kerry

Source: NRA - ILA

Seems pretty anti-gun...dispite his "weekend warrior" routine.

Then you have Bush and our government imprisoning people without making charges against them, holding them without trials, and not allowing them to talk to attorneys...


Damn they both are statists.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Zebo



Damn they both are statists.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

 

[BuckNaked]

Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

 

[Todd33]

Ya, cause the fate of the country is on guns, lol. The NRA is one wacko bunch.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Ya, cause the fate of the country is on guns, lol. The NRA is one wacko bunch.

You think taking falluja is hard. Try and take Tulsa Oklahoma when they've had enough.

I really don't understand liberals being against guns. It's the ultimate form of self-defence against the "big-guy" in a dark alley. I thought libs are there to help the meek... guns do it more effectivly than any other IMO. Besides, how can you have a communist revolution w/o guns

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

What responsible Jew needed to own a fully-automatic assault rifle when the Nazis came to take them away to death camps?

Guns are needed as a last resort to keep the government in check. Every household should have enough guns to arm every capable person in the family.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

One who wants to exercise their full constitutional rights vs. a tyrranical gov't. The irony of this discussion is that Bush makes me want to go out and get a full auto M-14 carbine more than Kerry does.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

One who wants to exercise their full constitutional rights vs. a tyrranical gov't. The irony of this discussion is that Bush makes me want to go out and get a full auto M-14 carbine more than Kerry does.

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LMAO

 

[judasmachine]

but if you do bear arms just be careful what you say, you could be the next terrorist.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

What responsible Jew needed to own a fully-automatic assault rifle when the Nazis came to take them away to death camps?

Guns are needed as a last resort to keep the government in check. Every household should have enough guns to arm every capable person in the family.

you've convinced me.

how about an NRA-sponsored Guns for Toys program next Christmas?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

What responsible Jew needed to own a fully-automatic assault rifle when the Nazis came to take them away to death camps?

Guns are needed as a last resort to keep the government in check. Every household should have enough guns to arm every capable person in the family.

Can't argue with that eh god of mischief?

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
but if you do bear arms just be careful what you say, you could be the next terrorist.

Originally posted by: Ari Fleischer
Be careful what you say, be careful what you do.

:| :|

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Kerry is about as anti-gun as they get... Read the link from Red Dawn.... He is in the same category as Feinstein and Schumer...

I personally can't stand either candidate, but Kerry's piss poor stance on responsible gun ownership has left me with little choice come November...

what responsible person needs to own a fully-automatic assault rifle?

What responsible Jew needed to own a fully-automatic assault rifle when the Nazis came to take them away to death camps?

Guns are needed as a last resort to keep the government in check. Every household should have enough guns to arm every capable person in the family.

Can't argue with that eh god of mischief?

nope. I've never really thought about the pro-gun argument before.

don't get me wrong, I think it's paranoid to think that we'd ever be in a position where we'd need to overthrow the government, but it's nice to have the option and I can't argue against it.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Well, this might explain it:

"I don`t want to be the candidate of the NRA, I don`t want our party to be the party of the NRA."

--Senator John Kerry

Source: NRA - ILA

Good for him. It doesn't mean he is against repealing the Second Ammendment.

no kidding. the nra is just an extremist group these days. they think you should be able to continue buying guns from "hobbiests" at gun shows without background checks or waiting periods. all reason goes out the door with em

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Well, this might explain it:

"I don`t want to be the candidate of the NRA, I don`t want our party to be the party of the NRA."

--Senator John Kerry

Source: NRA - ILA

Good for him. It doesn't mean he is against repealing the Second Ammendment.

no kidding. the nra is just an extremist group these days. they think you should be able to continue buying guns from "hobbiests" at gun shows without background checks or waiting periods. all reason goes out the door with em

Well I'm persoanlly more agressive than the NRA, since governemnt is told "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." infringed means background checks, registration, fees of any kind, round limits, bore size, rate of fire are all in violation of the sprit of the law. If they told Jews they have to pay a fee or be a non-felon to practice thier religion it would'nt fly period.

Besides, who needs guns more, a crimminal just released back into his hood with violent felons and drug dealers everyhwere or suburban BOB?

 

[renierh]

jesus christ! you people scare the hell out of me!

i thought americans nowadays left this paranoid stuff behind them. it's stuff like this that makes me very gratefull to live in a country were a gun is something for policemen and criminals.

apart from the fact that it's just plain dangerous, i just can't comprehend how you're country thinks it will be safer by having MORE guns around. a gun is meant to kill people. a gun that is not made, not sold or used will not kill. a lot of the guns that are made, sold and used WILL kill.

therefore, having more guns around, wil result in more victims. does the fact that civilians don't carry guns over here make us more vulnerable to criminals? maybe, but at least we don't have to worry about shooting eachother in the head by accident or over a small argument.and if you look at the numbers on death by guns, be it intentional or accident, i think we have the better end of the deal over here.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: renierh
jesus christ! you people scare the hell out of me!

i thought americans nowadays left this paranoid stuff behind them. it's stuff like this that makes me very gratefull to live in a country were a gun is something for policemen and criminals.

apart from the fact that it's just plain dangerous, i just can't comprehend how you're country thinks it will be safer by having MORE guns around. a gun is meant to kill people. a gun that is not made, not sold or used will not kill. a lot of the guns that are made, sold and used WILL kill.

therefore, having more guns around, wil result in more victims. does the fact that civilians don't carry guns over here make us more vulnerable to criminals? maybe, but at least we don't have to worry about shooting eachother in the head by accident or over a small argument.and if you look at the numbers on death by guns, be it intentional or accident, i think we have the better end of the deal over here.

but what if the King of England tried to invade my house?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: renierh
jesus christ! you people scare the hell out of me!

i thought americans nowadays left this paranoid stuff behind them. it's stuff like this that makes me very gratefull to live in a country were a gun is something for policemen and criminals.

apart from the fact that it's just plain dangerous, i just can't comprehend how you're country thinks it will be safer by having MORE guns around. a gun is meant to kill people. a gun that is not made, not sold or used will not kill. a lot of the guns that are made, sold and used WILL kill.

therefore, having more guns around, wil result in more victims. does the fact that civilians don't carry guns over here make us more vulnerable to criminals? maybe, but at least we don't have to worry about shooting eachother in the head by accident or over a small argument.and if you look at the numbers on death by guns, be it intentional or accident, i think we have the better end of the deal over here.

So in your country the criminals get the guns but the law abiding citizens do not?? watch bowling for columbine, pretty easily disproves your theory that having more guns around leads to more violence, instead the media is to blame and the constant idea of fear...