You're playing a semantics game with a book that's been translated an infinite number of times over thousands of years.
One single word alluding to a half-assed still-impossible bullshit solution to a still-impossible bullshit story is STILL bullshit.
You stupid nitwits don't even know anything about the book you're arguing against.
Word to the wise: LEARN about it if you're going to bash it because you look like a fucking retarded tool.
Eve didn't have the ability to give birth to multiple races, you moron. Eve gave birth to ONE race.
Tower of Babel, anyone?
Actually READ the Bible first, pl0x.
We have no actual record of the continental drift,
When someone says the bible doesn't back up science or secular history, it's almost always because of ignorance what the bible says.
I believe the point Malak was making was that, just because earthquakes seem to happen around the perimeter of large crustal plates, and just because the age of the sea floor appears to be very young at places where these plates are spreading apart while magma seeps upward to fill the gap, and just because backward extrapolation of the movements we see in these plates results in the landmasses joining in a way that is matched by geologic evidence present in the landmasses today...is that all of that means absolutely nothing whatsoever.I'd love to hear your explanation of an earthquake...
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Oh I think that religions do change quite a bit, or at least the interpretations of them, as you hinted.That said, I'm in no way opposed to religion, and people can believe what they want, but all modern religions were created as a way to attempt to explain the world around us. As we've become more modern, we've found proof explaining a lot of the things around us, yet religions remain generally unchanged in light of this new information.
I'd love to hear your explanation of an earthquake...
Maybe... but I don't need to read the bible to know that different people can interpret an old book depending on current circumstances.
It's almost like people taking the writings of Nostradamus and presenting it as fact because they translated and interpreted in a way that conveniently fits with what we know now.
That said, I'm in no way opposed to religion, and people can believe what they want, but all modern religions were created as a way to attempt to explain the world around us. As we've become more modern, we've found proof explaining a lot of the things around us, yet religions remain generally unchanged in light of this new information.
It's really just a rehash of some old, pagan ideas that have been around for thousands of years.
And thankfully, there is complete agreement among everyone in the world as to which one is the true Christianity. :awe:Oh, so now there is false Christianity and a true one?
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lawlzBible truth waits for the science to catch up, not the other way around...
Why does every topic even remotely related to evolution turn into a creationism/evolution 'debate?'
Oh, so now there is false Christianity and a true one?
Why do you think pagan ideas are wrong?
There is a famous radio debate between 2 biologists arguing evolution, and the evolutionist spends his initial time whining and insulting the other person. The other biologist isn't religious nor believes necessarily in ID, but evolutions always immediately assume creationists are the only ones that oppose them and anyone that opposes them is stupid.
Even Dawkins admits ID is possible. Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the creation of life, which is why these discussions are always stupid.
Incorrect. It has general guidelines that are not always followed.
It's clear almost everyone above has no clue at all. Christianity had nothing to do with pagan theology. Judaism was the base of it and what did happen was the pagan 'holidays' got incorporated into the religion to get more adoptors.
Also most of the 'bibles' out there speak of God(s) creating the earth and universe and then at some point wanted a creature in their image that could be like them. So they took the same 'clay' and formed man. Then they did him one better by breathing some of their essence into him "the soul".
This is more or less hashed out in various ways among most of the major religions.
The problem is too many that debate theology are barely educated at best and those that are have not spent much time truly studying the book they are making claims on.
Where would you rather go for answers on General Relativity... Mr. Wizard or Einstein?
In actuality, by definition, there is only one Christianity.
Creationism can't be proven false. Many specific/specialized/niche evolutionary theories have been proven false, but the basic tenets of the theory are as sound as any other scientific idea.
What book do you think I'm bashing? Please expound on how you "know" Eve gave birth to one race. Also expound on your theories regarding the Tower of Babel. I am not trying to offend, I'm honestly curious about what you think and will not judge you for thinking it. I'd be happy to explore the ideas in PM format... I enjoy learning and hearing other people's points of view.
No. Thank you for proving a point. The word became was italicized for your benefit or others who don't know the original wording/construction indicates a creation and a REcreation. You can find sources to educate yourself on this if you so choose.
Why the anger? A lack of emotional control only reveals a mind closed to rational, constructive thought.
The Bible clearly states that from one race became many. From one language became many, etc.
Go read it yourself.
Why does every topic even remotely related to evolution turn into a creationism/evolution 'debate?'
If you'd rather believe in fairy tales than understand reality, GTFO and go talk about spirits and shit in another thread.
I am saddened that you did not elaborate on your view :
Of course the problem is that this subject is not much longer in the realm of philosophy. Therefore creationists can only revert to the methods they have always used, to shout out heresy and to destroy the knowledge of the enlightened ones and destroy the enlightened ones... You have to understand that some atheist scientists are no different than fundamental religious people. These people will defend the view that they have blindly accepted without understanding what it really encompasses. It has nothing to do with religion or science. The factor here are the individuals themselves. Does the current evolution theory explains everything ? No. But as time passes, even variables not taken into account become visually clear and understandable and are taken into account for the equation of life. That is what science combined with integrity does. Something creationism lacks.
I don't think anyone said that Christ's teachings have anything to do with Pagan theology. But you are correct, what people pass off today as Christianity today is nothing more that a rehash of old pagan ideas put forth for political gain ~50AD.
Yes, there a zillion translations of the bible. But the bible does haved a traceable pedigree. In actuallity, there are very few translations that scholars recognize as heeding that pedigree and they all read very similarly. Coincidence or just common sense?
Thanks for putting the word "God(s)" with the parenthetical plurality as "Elohim" is a plural word much like the word "family". Walk out on the street and take a random sampling of 100 professing Christians. You might be lucky to find even 1 that knows that about "their God".
I agree that people make some wild claims about the bible and Christ's teachings.
It's actually the opposite of that.
The original tribe from Adam and Eve left the promised land (Israel, or wherever you want to stake that) and went all over the world.
As far as creationism, there is a ton of evidence in the form of all the testimonies over different time periods that told the same story (the books that became the old testament).
The missing link is proof of God(s) directly though.
Malak is actually very right above. Creation or not doesn't take away there could be evolution. Also many fail to realize the old belief that in Evolution all life is believed to come from the proverbial tadpole or whatever has been replaced with several base species that evolved. Many evolutionists are also creationists.