is most of India fairly filthy looking?

brainhulk

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Coworker was showing me her vacation pics. She had it all made in this nice hardbound book. I see the pictures and think to myself dayyyum, that looks foul. She showed me pics of her village where they gather at the river twice a day, whoooaah that water looked ratchet. And the people where actually playing in there.

Is this not representative of most of India? Taj Majal was clean
 

Hugo Drax

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Doesn't India have one of the top economies in the world?

but the 1% of india has 99% of the wealth.

And they choose not to invest any of it in their own country.

you have billionaires living dead smack in the center of the slums, with 20+ ferrarri and vintage car collections drive right right out into the slum cities of india.
 

doubledeluxe

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India is stunningly beautiful. Outside of the cities. Pretty much like the USA. We don't have many cities worth writing home about either.

Now the Ganges? Dear lord is that some foul shit. However if you go to Varanasi you're not going there, as a tourist, to judge the water quality of that river. You're going there to see their spirituality and a really interesting place. Just don't look at the bodies on the Ghats. I still can't get the image of melting bodies out of my mind.
 

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Oddly enough I spent a few months in China and there was blue skies when it wasn't raining.

There tends to be a lot of Asians, all over the world, who wear the face mask.

So my question is are those pictures of real smog or is it fog or something else? I've heard that it was supposed to be filthy in China but my experience was the opposite.
 

nageov3t

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Oddly enough I spent a few months in China and there was blue skies when it wasn't raining.

There tends to be a lot of Asians, all over the world, who wear the face mask.

So my question is are those pictures of real smog or is it fog or something else? I've heard that it was supposed to be filthy in China but my experience was the opposite.

what season, and whereabouts in China?
 

doubledeluxe

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End of September until beginning of November iirc. Winter hit early. Where? All over China. However as far as smog is concerend I was at the world fair in Shanghai, spent a week in Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Chengdu, Chong Qing, and more.
 

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Development in India is proceeding somewhat slower than was expected 10-15 years ago. Our company has a factory there and everyone who has to deal with the indians says that their culture is not conducive to economic development. Apparently the caste system is still in force and is a major impedement to progress there.
 

mmntech

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Oddly enough I spent a few months in China and there was blue skies when it wasn't raining.

There tends to be a lot of Asians, all over the world, who wear the face mask.

So my question is are those pictures of real smog or is it fog or something else? I've heard that it was supposed to be filthy in China but my experience was the opposite.

In Japan, they wear the face masks if they're sick. It's seen as a courtesy to others, so you don't spread your germs around. I would assume it's probably bled through to other cultures.

In Mainland China, the pollution is so bad because all the factories still run on coal. Not the clean coal technology we use here either. Beijing is basically like a supersized version of Dickensian London. While they're a nuclear nation, coal is still a lot cheaper.

Not all cities are that bad. Shanghai is working to bring pollution down. The rich people are starting to get tired of all the smog, so there's incentive to invest in anti-pollution initiatives.

Off the mainland, Hong Kong and Macau are both fairly clean cities by Chinese standards. Over in the Republic of China (Taiwan), Taipei looks no worse than your typical North American cities from what I've seen.

Japan is very neat and orderly. Really puts all of us to shame. Especially given the population density.

India, well... I spent a good three years working on and off in our "Little India". They don't have a reputation here for being the cleanest people. That combined with the holier than thou attitude many of the FOBs have. I've often joked that dislike for them is the only thing whites, blacks, and Asians have ever agreed on. Should hear my Grandma's Chinese neighbour rant about the family that moved across the street. Even other Indians (who've been here a few generations) can't stand them.
 

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Coworker was showing me her vacation pics. She had it all made in this nice hardbound book. I see the pictures and think to myself, that looks foul. She showed me pics of her village where they gather at the river twice a day, whoooaah that water looked ratchet. And the people where actually playing in there.

Is this not representative of most of India? Taj Majal was clean

It always amazes me what other people consider "home" - I've learned that home is where your family & friends are, your roots, not where it's nicest to live. I have friends from South America, India, and other places who have shown me the same pictures - mud houses, dirt roads, limited access to common first-world resources like running water & electricity, and so on. But despite living in America (grocery stores, clean water, building standards, etc.), they still pine for home because that's where they grew up. I think "home" is more of a state of mind than a place...I think they'd still wish they were back home even if they could move all of their friends & family to the states.
 

Svnla

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Oddly enough I spent a few months in China and there was blue skies when it wasn't raining.

There tends to be a lot of Asians, all over the world, who wear the face mask.

So my question is are those pictures of real smog or is it fog or something else? I've heard that it was supposed to be filthy in China but my experience was the opposite.

You did not see any of these? = http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/

Do they look real to you or something else?
 

maddogchen

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Yeah India and China's pollution is horrible. When my old company sent me to China, I remember the rivers of dead fish coming out of what looked like nuclear power plants with the poor fisherman fishing. They had nets to scoop up the dead fish.

The sky rarely is blue. When kids color a picture of a beautiful day with them out playing, they leave the sky white, not blue. Cuz the sky is mostly white with smog and they don't really know why occassionally its blue. You can argue with a child that the sky is supposed to be blue and they won't believe you!
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Yeah India and China's pollution is horrible. When my old company sent me to China, I remember the rivers of dead fish coming out of what looked like nuclear power plants with the poor fisherman fishing. They had nets to scoop up the dead fish.

The sky rarely is blue. When kids color a picture of a beautiful day with them out playing, they leave the sky white, not blue. Cuz the sky is mostly white with smog and they don't really know why occassionally its blue. You can argue with a child that the sky is supposed to be blue and they won't believe you!
You can do the same thing in Minnesota.
 

Ns1

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Pune is pretty beautiful. Hyderabad was a littered high tech city in the desert. Mumbai was really grey but there's quite a bit of greenery too.
 

poofyhairguy

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My favorite thing about China was the fact that so many people denied the smog existed, or that it was smog. The American pilot on our home trip joked about how the Chinese would call it "mist."
 

OutHouse

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My favorite thing about China was the fact that so many people denied the smog existed, or that it was smog. The American pilot on our home trip joked about how the Chinese would call it "mist."

Don't want to upset the communist assholes.
 

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One of the big issues in India is they don't believe in the concept of a toilet or plumbing. You go in other 3rd world countries and they still have a designated area to poop and pee in and they want to contain it outside of their living quarters. In India if you have to poop, you just do it wherever you're sitting now. It's completely normal.
 

Ns1

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One of the big issues in India is they don't believe in the concept of a toilet or plumbing. You go in other 3rd world countries and they still have a designated area to poop and pee in and they want to contain it outside of their living quarters. In India if you have to poop, you just do it wherever you're sitting now. It's completely normal.

In my 4 trips to India I have never seen a person shitting in public.
 
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