Is my WindowsXP Pro crashing atleast 6 times a day normal?

[Compddd]

For the above who asked about the memory, I just replaced my mushkin 1066 rambus with some brand spankin new Kingston 1066 rambus. Same problems occured.

Is it normal for the voltages from my PSU displayed in the BIOS to flucuate? by the 3.3V it goes up and down from 3.17 to 3.29, by the 5V it goes up and down from 4.89 to 5.02, by the 12V it goes up and down from 11.71 to 11.91

btw it just took 11 restarts to actually get into windows. Kept getting c00021a Fatal System Error 0xc000026c (0x00000000 0x00000000) Session Manager Initialization System Process Terminated unexpectedly

 

[Compddd]

bump for the morning crew

 

[Compddd]

update, I turned my rambus fsb down from 533 to 400, system boots up fine everytime. So it is the CPU like that one guy said I think, cant be the ram cause I had these same problems with 3 types of brand new Rambus

 

[Chad]

Take your CPU out, clean it, apply some good thermal compound and reseat the heatsink/fan and put it all back in. If that doesn't work, your CPU needs to be RMA'd (returned).

 

[Compddd]

Welp I changed out the CPU today with a 2.4ghz p4 same problems still happening =/ so that leaves the motherboard, psu, or video card I guess. dont really think its the video card.

can someone answer my above psu question about the voltage readings fluctuating up and down in my bios?

 

[Compddd]

double post

 

[holdencommodore]

Yes, some voltage fluctuation is normal, as long as it's not too much. The voltages aren't bad, but they're not the best either. The 3.3V line and 12V line drop too much for my liking (my 12V line on my AthlonXP goes between 11.95 to 12.06).

Cheers

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Yield
It's cause XP is a pile of crap.. one of the worst OS's ever.. sounds like a slight instability to me. anything overclocked? try dumbing down some of the RAM timings or something in the BIOS. try giving the CPU and/or V/IO a bit more juice. that's the first thing I would try if I really had no idea what was causing it.

I dunno XP is the most stable Microsoft operating system that I have ever used.

System Up Time: 20 Days, 5 Hours, 58 Minutes, 43 Seconds

well, i would consider you lucky.
it wasn't "unstable"
but it would ah heck up enough to the point where it would have to be rebooted.
whereas Windows2000 never needs that (for me anyways)
i've gone through 4 different hardware configs since I've started using 2000 and it's definitely my favorite OS over XP ANY DAY, ANY TIME.

 

[Ronstang]

I wish I had a really good and fancy answer for you, but I don't. I had exactly the same problem the other day with my 1gig T-Bird system. The only thing I caught on the error screen was the IRQ less than crap everytime. I had to put my new 120 gig HD in and do a fresh install anyway so that is what I did adn the probelm has been gone since then.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Yield
It's cause XP is a pile of crap.. one of the worst OS's ever.. sounds like a slight instability to me. anything overclocked? try dumbing down some of the RAM timings or something in the BIOS. try giving the CPU and/or V/IO a bit more juice. that's the first thing I would try if I really had no idea what was causing it.

I dunno XP is the most stable Microsoft operating system that I have ever used.

System Up Time: 20 Days, 5 Hours, 58 Minutes, 43 Seconds

well, i would consider you lucky.
it wasn't "unstable"
but it would ah heck up enough to the point where it would have to be rebooted.
whereas Windows2000 never needs that (for me anyways)
i've gone through 4 different hardware configs since I've started using 2000 and it's definitely my favorite OS over XP ANY DAY, ANY TIME.

maybe u had a hot chip, lousy power supply?

i've setup 5 computers with win2k and later redid them with win xp sp1. xp is def stable. i'd say slightly more then 2k.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Yield
It's cause XP is a pile of crap.. one of the worst OS's ever.. sounds like a slight instability to me. anything overclocked? try dumbing down some of the RAM timings or something in the BIOS. try giving the CPU and/or V/IO a bit more juice. that's the first thing I would try if I really had no idea what was causing it.

I dunno XP is the most stable Microsoft operating system that I have ever used.

System Up Time: 20 Days, 5 Hours, 58 Minutes, 43 Seconds

well, i would consider you lucky.
it wasn't "unstable"
but it would ah heck up enough to the point where it would have to be rebooted.
whereas Windows2000 never needs that (for me anyways)
i've gone through 4 different hardware configs since I've started using 2000 and it's definitely my favorite OS over XP ANY DAY, ANY TIME.

maybe u had a hot chip, lousy power supply?

i've setup 5 computers with win2k and later redid them with win xp sp1. xp is def stable. i'd say slightly more then 2k.

no.. use 2000 on the same computers with better results.
and some software doesn't work as well with XP, either.
when i have a bad experience with something like that, it takes its toll for a while.
i don't care as long as i have other things. (win2k)
i've never had a problem with the OS.

 

[Compddd]

how come my comp works fine if I set the rambus fsb from 533 to 400??? Doesn't have any problems booting up then. Gonna change out the motherboard today

 

[PlatinumGold]

how come my comp works fine if I set the rambus fsb from 533 to 400??? Doesn't have any problems booting up then. Gonna change out the motherboard today

finally you have a reasonable explanation. it's either the RDRAM or the MB.




edit

Platinumgold likes stating the obvious.

 

[Compddd]

I've changed out the rdram 3 times now with brand new modules from mushkin and kingston =/ changed the cpu too and everything else in the system except the motherboard. Hope changing that out today solves my problem.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Get rid of that mobo and get a P4T-533-C.

 

[Chad]

Well, I guess it's either the motherboard or the PSU. I've seen both make a system as unstable as yours. I'm going to guess PSU, just because of your bad luck though... with your luck, of course it will be the last thing you try.

 

[tomstevens26]

Originally posted by: Compddd
I get alot of IRQ Less or not equal errors. and all the crashes are random except when I alt tab out of Asheron's Call, that error is caused by an ati driver file. When I first built the system I couldn't even install WindowsXP or anything because the ram was bad. I dont know if I should get rid of this ram and try some new ram. Also all the crashes are BSOD's, cause I turned off auto reboot in WinXP so I could see the errors. I also have the 2nd to latest BIOS from Iwill, I dont have the latest because they fubared one release and I tried the newest bios that replaced the fubar one and its messed up too.

Well, some time back I started getting a lot of the IRQ less or not equal errors. After a lot of troubleshooting I finally found the problem to be a NIC that was going bad. Hasn't happened since I replaced it with a new one and that was many months ago. Not saying that is your problem but it appeared that was what gave me plenty o' grief.

 

[AdamK47]

Like I said... memory. PC1066 isn't even officially supported by Intel yet. It just happens to be a feature of some motherboards and RAM manufacturers. Some people get it to work, some don't. Depends on the motherboard and the memory.

 

[Compddd]

I replaced my motherboard. Haven't got any BSOD's yet. Ran Prime95 for 7 hours straight, no errors. Then the next day ran Prime95 in conjunction with 3dmark2001 benchmark tests in loop mode for 9 hours straight. No errors or warnings. Think I finally fixed it?

 

[hungrypete]

it takes a severe event to 'crash' XP which would result in a BSOD or a reboot
sudden reboots are typically caused by video drivers and power supplies, even when not playing games
crashing to desktop is quite normal, and is almost always due to a bad driver or poorly written game, and battlefield 1942 runs rock solid on my machine

 

[hungrypete]

Originally posted by: Yield
It's cause XP is a pile of crap.. one of the worst OS's ever.. sounds like a slight instability to me

someone buy this man a clue, or prevent him from breeding

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Yield
It's cause XP is a pile of crap.. one of the worst OS's ever.. sounds like a slight instability to me. anything overclocked? try dumbing down some of the RAM timings or something in the BIOS. try giving the CPU and/or V/IO a bit more juice. that's the first thing I would try if I really had no idea what was causing it.

I wholeheartedly agree.

My XP crashes on me ALL the time. Even Explorer causes XP to crash. I've done clean installs but nothing helps. When I had Win2K on my machine it was fine. I should never have upgraded.

My wife's PC is a 50% OCed Duron and runs perfectly under Win2K. Her's has tons of junk in it over the years and nothing crashes it. It is rock solid.

For me, Win2K was the most stable OS. I would consider going back to it but I've got too much time invested in XP that I'll just live with the crashes until something better comes out.

 

[bsr]

Mine can run for months at a time and will only go off from power failure or if I reboot...... This is indeed not normal and is not OS related. I think you have wrong bios settings or something.. (In BIOS try disable shadowing and caching, xp doesnt like those options) ... Another possibility is that you are running it on FAT and not NTFS, XP needs to be a clean install and NOT (repeat NOT) an upgrade.. Upgrade is bad.... If none of that is it then maybe you got a virus or currupted windows file. Id format to NTFS and do a clean install if this continues to happen.


ps: after doing clean install, install SP1


Scott'

 

[Chad]

Doggie, run Sisoft and check your IRQ's, I have a feeling your sound card and video card are sharing IRQ's. If so, try moving those cards to different PCI slots till they are on their own IRQ.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Chad
Doggie, run Sisoft and check your IRQ's, I have a feeling your sound card and video card are sharing IRQ's. If so, try moving those cards to different PCI slots till they are on their own IRQ.

Thanks. I will try it.

Edit: Just checked. Nope. Sound is IRQ 7 and Video is IRQ 11.