Is NE1 surprised? Ford Focus recalled...AGAIN!

[SinNisTeR]

our family has owned several american cars. and i told my dad if he buys another american car.. im dis-owning him!

i made myself a promise that no matter how tempted i am, i will never buy american, ever!

 

[Lucky]

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i made myself a promise that no matter how tempted i am, i will never buy american, ever! >>




American made or american engineered?

 

[toant103]

that's why my family only buy imports. Same with electronics.

 

[compuwiz1]

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i made myself a promise that no matter how tempted i am, i will never buy american, ever! >>



I disown you. How unamerican!

If everyone took that attitude, we might as well all move to asia, mexico or bumfuckegypt! :Q
We need to get a more nationalistic attitude and support what's ours, as well as our OWN workers! If we don't take care of our own, I'm sure, the AlQueda, Saddam Hussein and others will....yeah, right.
Why should any american have any loyalty to those who would either rob us or kill us, not all to that extreme, but you get my point?

 

[notfred]

I have a 13 year old ford which has never had any recalls on it.

 

[Ultima]

thank god for globalization, or else we wouldn't have any decent cars in NA.

 

[MazerRackham]

I'm only buying cars made on Planet 00991120 from here on out!

 

[Pocatello]

<< According to a recent report by the Technical Inspection Association in Germany, the Focus sold in Europe was rated as one of the highest-quality vehicles in its class for the last three years. The Focus debuted in Europe in 1998. >>


From the same article, which mean quality control for Ford in N. America is not good enough, either a labor problem or poor quality parts made in N. America. Since the SVT is assembled in Hermosillo, Mexico, that could be a problem. But have has the Focus assembled in Wayne, Michigan faired any better?

 

[SinNisTeR]

by american i mean ford, chevy and GM. and most of the sub companies within. the jaguars used to be top class cars, now they have degraded. you see the x-type.. how sad. =\

i support the american working man, by supporting honda, toyota and the other manufacturers im suporting them they have plants here in the US. and ford has plants in brazil, mexico and canada. ( brazil rocks! im half american, half brazilian =) )

 

[Pocatello]

Sinister, you know about Jaguar quality before Ford took over? Right now Jaguar has a better quality rating than all the German cars.

 

[compuwiz1]

<< Sinister, you know about Jaguar quality before Ford took over? Right now Jaguar has a better quality rating than all the German cars. >>



That is a fact.

 

[bozack]

That sucks, I was looking forward to the SVT Foci as well....but at least it is nothing major, you would think some of the review mags like C&D would have picked up on this since they saw the pre production sample...but I guess not as they all said it was a very nice car.

With regards to the "I will never buy American" comments, that is fine as I know how you feel, I will never buy Japanese..maybe german or Italian, but Japanese cars are just so boring (unless talking Supra, Rx7/8 etc).

Also, My SVT Contour, while it hasn't been the "best" car, it hasn't given me any real problems yet, and it is really fun to drive and unique..without being overly expensive..and that was made right here in the US, cannot remember which plant though.

 

[hooj]

<< JACK: A new car built by my company leaves Boston traveling at 60 miles per hour. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now: do we initiate a recall?

You take the number of vehicles in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

LADY: ... Which ... car company do you work for?

JACK: A major one. >>



When he says this didn't you all think, 'Ford'

 

[PG]

<< I have a 13 year old ford which has never had any recalls on it. >>


I find that very hard to believe. What kind of car is it?

 

[dmcowen674]

I rented a Focus a couple times at the airport while travelling on business trips, actually didn't get a choice of car, it was assigned. That POS ranks up there with the Yugo and Pinto as worst cars ever built.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Focus fades away in the not too distant future.

 

[Linflas]

We have one of the infamous Windstar's with the engine that dines on head gaskets. That said the way Ford has handled this problem has been great and due to that I would not hesitate to buy another Ford if they have a model that meets my needs for the right price when I am in the market for a new car.

 

[iamwiz82]

quality control for Ford is a joke. I should know, i work for a supplier. The standards that Toyota(we also supply to them) are about 3 notches above Ford. If Ford wants a part with a tolerance of ±3mm, Toyota would be at ±.5mm

 

[StormRider]

Thank goodness my Focus doesn't have cruise control.

 

[Pacfanweb]

<<Ford Motor Co. will recall 569 SVT Focus hatchbacks -- built and sold between Nov. 6 and April 8 >>

Since NOVEMBER? They just started getting delivered! We haven't gotten our first one yet (will be here this month) and I work for the largest dealer in the Southeast.
569 cars. Not much, but after all the other problems the Fucus has had, you'd think Ford would've done a bit more testing on the SVT version.

 

[Rent]

<< <<Ford Motor Co. will recall 569 SVT Focus hatchbacks -- built and sold between Nov. 6 and April 8 >>

Since NOVEMBER? They just started getting delivered! We haven't gotten our first one yet (will be here this month) and I work for the largest dealer in the Southeast.
569 cars. Not much, but after all the other problems the Fucus has had, you'd think Ford would've done a bit more testing on the SVT version. >>



Well, seeing as the SVT modificaitons are mainly based within the engine and suspension, the regular controls such as stuff like Cruise control and AC/Radio/Wipers are standard Ford fare. I mean, comon, SVT unique cruise control? LoL

 

[PG]

<< We have one of the infamous Windstar's with the engine that dines on head gaskets. That said the way Ford has handled this problem has been great and due to that I would not hesitate to buy another Ford if they have a model that meets my needs for the right price when I am in the market for a new car. >>



Are you serious? Ford at first said there was NO problem with these engines. It took YEARS and lots of pressure for them to fess up to a problem and to do anything about it. And this problem affected practically all 3.8 V6 engines, but Ford will only admit to problems with the front drive vehicles, at least that?s the last I have heard. There are many, many people who have Mustangs, T-Birds, etc. with same engine and same problems, but they get no help from Ford.





<< Well, seeing as the SVT modifications are mainly based within the engine and suspension, the regular controls such as stuff like Cruise control and AC/Radio/Wipers are standard Ford fare. I mean, comon, SVT unique cruise control? LoL . >>



Sorry Radeon, but do you realize that Ford already recalled the Focus for a sticky cruise control before? I guess they didn?t learn from the last recall or they didn?t apply the fixes proactively to the new cars.

 

[PG]

oops, my bad, Ford did finally extend the warranty to rear drive vehicles with that 3.8 engine:

In the interest of customer satisfaction, Ford Motor Company is expanding a previously announced extended warranty on 1994 and 1995 3.8L V-6 engine head gaskets to also cover rear-wheel drive cars powered by this engine. Now, the 1994 and 1995 Ford Thunderbird and Mustang, and Mercury Cougar, with the 3.8L engine will also be covered for head gasket failure for 7 years or 100,000 miles,whichever comes first. Chris Jenson from the Plain Dealer has published numerous articles on the failure of the 3.8L's head gaskets. One Ford employee even refused a free computer from Ford until Ford Motor Company fixed the 3.8L's to the customer' satisfaction.
http://www.bonforums.com/powertrain/engine_38warrantyextend.htm

 

[Linflas]

They have replaced the engine in our van twice with 0 cost to me. While the van was in the shop I had use of a loaner at no expense. While I do not understand how they let something like this get so far along they did step up to the plate and fix the problem which is what counts with me. As for the initial PR junk all companies have to deny deny deny these days in the face of the inevitable onslaught of lawyers looking to make a killing on stuff like this.

 

[SinNisTeR]

<< Sinister, you know about Jaguar quality before Ford took over? Right now Jaguar has a better quality rating than all the German cars. >>



ya, i know they are quality cars, but they arent what they used to be, thats for damn sure! ford screws up everything it gets a hold of. but i must admit, reliability of american cars have got a lot better than what it used to be. also what ticks me off is that ford gets a hold of a 3.8L engine and can only make 160hp (older camaros v6) i dont have one, but it makes me puzzled why they cant make something like the camrys or accords or nissan.

the new pontiac solstice (sp?) is promising.. 2.2 supercharged that gives 240 iirc. 0-60 times rated at 4.7 price 20-30K. not bad! see things are getting better BUT.... they use parts from cavalier, and all the other crappy GM line.. WHY??? thats only gonna cause its downfall in reliability.

/sorry for the rant

 

[ElFenix]

fraud fsckus is at it again.