Is Obama Becoming a Joke?

PJABBER

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Critics are telling lies about Obama... and most of them are true.

And there's nothing wrong with the people who voted for Obama that becoming taxpayers won't cure.

As President, Obama fully intends to run the country's finances just like he ran his household finances. He's got a book of blank checks.

Obama says we should be proud to pay more taxes, but the funny thing is that most of us could be just as proud for half the money.

Have you ever noticed how Obama thinks nothing is impossible as long as somebody else has to pay for it?

Based on his performance in office so far, President Obama should do just fine on his future tax returns. After all, he will be able to write off his second term.

Blessed are they who find Obama funny, for they shall never cease to be entertained.

Is Obama Becoming a Joke?

Is Obama Becoming a Joke?
By David Paul Kuhn
RealClearPolitics.com
October 8, 2009

Most presidents become a joke at some point. It's a matter of when and how. Both points should concern this president. In Winston Churchill's words, "a joke is a very serious thing." Or it can be, when the joke is about a very serious thing.

"Saturday Night Live" has long been a comedic benchmark. Last weekend, SNL took its first hard hit at President Obama. Fred Armisen, who plays the president, gave an Oval Office address questioning why some critics were distraught with him transforming the country: "When you look at my record it's very clear what I've done so far and that is nothing. Nada. Almost one year and nothing to show for it."

Political satire matters when it is larger than the joke. The growing rap on Obama is that he is a man both ineffective and meek; a man who is loved by all and feared by none.

Bill Maher hit the punch line first in mid-June: "You don't have to be on television every minute of every day. You're the president, not a rerun of 'Law & Order'... TV stars are too worried about being popular and too concerned about being renewed."

Soon Maher came to his key point: "You're skinny and in a hurry and in love with a nice lady, but so is Lindsay Lohan. And just like Lindsay, we see your name in the paper a lot but we're kind of wondering when you're actually going to do something."

Jon Stewart has been in on the joke all week. On Monday, Stewart hit Obama for "appeasing" the health care and energy industries. On Tuesday, Stewart showed clips of Obama's repeated campaign promises to allow gays to serve openly in the military.

Stewart to Obama: "I know you have a lot on your desk plate. But as a thin man who smokes, you may not understand the concept. All that stuff you've been putting on your plate, it's f-cking chow time, brother. That's how you get things off of your plate. "

The Olympics only helped reinforce the punch line. The president went to Copenhagen to rally for his hometown. Analysts assumed that the White House was in on a secret. The president could tip the vote? But Chicago lost on the first round. The president looked powerless.

Many Sunday political shows touched on Obama's Olympic failure. Was it a metaphor? On ABC's "This Week," George Will said yes. He listed Obama's big initiatives abroad and the absence of progress. "Saying no to the president is a habit," Will argued. "The world adores him and ignores him." The digs came from all sides. But SNL brought the point home.

Smart administrations take jokes seriously. By the spring of 1982, Ronald Reagan's staff was concerned by a running joke. A new comedy record was popular, portraying Reagan as the amicable dunce.

Satire helped undermine both Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. And as Reagan's pollster, Richard Wirthlin, put it then: "the danger" of political satire "arises when the humor portrays the president as silly or impotent or portrays what he's trying to do as irrelevant--when it attacks some of the basic elements of his leadership."

Mocking the powerful is as old as Ben Franklin. A JFK impersonator won a Grammy in 1963 for satirizing the Kennedys. By the late 1970s, SNL became political satire's defining institution.

Chevy Chase made Gerald Ford a klutz. Dana Carvey parodied George Bush as the wimpy, "wouldn't be prudent" president. Phil Hartman nailed Clinton as the fast food president in his McDonalds skit, cheapening Clinton as a man after the easy pleasures. Just last year, Tina Fey devastated Sarah Palin as a silly, high school cheerleading airhead.

It was supposed to be hard to joke about Obama. White liberal comics were afraid to touch on race. Obama came to office in serious times. But it was also Obama's image. He ran on a lofty persona unlike any candidate since Reagan. But in the case of Obama, the liberal pop culture was buying and selling it. Obama was to bring, "change, we can believe in."

But the change maker has not made change--at least not on the hard fights, not yet. Hillary Clinton once asked why Obama "can't close the deal." Her dig is now a punch line. And most people get the joke, except CNN.

This week CNN actually ran a segment fact checking the Obama SNL skit. Bush and Palin may have wondered why CNN never came to their defense. But then, where's the humor in that?

As Garry Trudeau, of "Doonesbury" fame, told one reporter, "For something to be funny, the audience has to be in a position to sense the truth of it." And SNL's lampoon of Obama was funny.
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
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No PJ, you have that title and are at no risk of losing it. Quite a blatant troll, btw, even by your low standards.
 

jonks

Lifer
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Death Panels
Kenyan Sleeper Agent
Sex-Ed to Kindergartners
Kill Grandma
FEMA Concentation Camps
Obama Youth
etc.
etc.
etc.

there's your joke.
(no, no one reads your walls'o'text because you say the same thing over and over. You're the Jabber who cried Socialist, and when the enemy really comes for you, we'll not be listening then either)
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i like JS's rip into him the other day.
I noticed your .sig. Whatever happened to Rainsford? I don't remember seeing him around lately.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Lies are now True. Sweet.

"A popular method always used by the bourgeois press in every country with unerring effect is to lie, scream, raise a hullabaloo, and keep on reiterating lies on the off-chance that ?something may stick?.

...It is the capitalists and the capitalist press who are making a great noise, who are trying to shout down the truth, to prevent it from being heard, to drown it in a torrent of invective and shouts, to prevent an earnest elucidation of the facts.

...All we want is to make clear to the workers and to the poor peasants the errors of their tactics. We recognise the Soviets as the only possible authority. We advocate the need for authority and the duty of submitting to it.

Why, then, are you afraid? Why do you lie?

It is the truth that you fear. You lie in order to prevent this truth from emerging, prevent it by means of riot-mongering, slander, violence, and filth.

...They are dead people, the heroes of such methods."

V. I. Lenin
Written April 13, 1917
Published April 14, 1917 in Pravda No. 32
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i like JS's rip into him the other day.
I noticed your .sig. Whatever happened to Rainsford? I don't remember seeing him around lately.

i think he posted about taking a break, he steps in about once a month.



i think he was the best and sanest and least trolltastic poster here, not that that means much.
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: jonks
Death Panels
Kenyan Sleeper Agent
Sex-Ed to Kindergartners
Kill Grandma
FEMA Concentation Camps
Obama Youth
etc.
etc.
etc.

there's your joke.
(no, no one reads your walls'o'text because you say the same thing over and over. You're the Jabber who cried Socialist, and when the enemy really comes for you, we'll not be listening then either)

Death Panels - Gonna have them - How else do you ration care...i mean cut costs?

Sex Education to Kindergartners - might want to visit California

Kill Grandma - Cutting 500 billion from medicare - So you are telling me that you can cut 500 billion with out cutting care?
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i like JS's rip into him the other day.
I noticed your .sig. Whatever happened to Rainsford? I don't remember seeing him around lately.
i think he posted about taking a break, he steps in about once a month.



i think he was the best and sanest and least trolltastic poster here, not that that means much.
Agreed, and too bad. I always envied his patience with the fools and trolls. I lost mine a long time ago.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER

Topic Title: Is PJABBER Becoming a Joke?

Fixed it for ya. No need to thank me.

And no. It's too late for that. Troll threads like this prove it's already happened. :laugh:

Originally posted by: jonks

Death Panels
Kenyan Sleeper Agent
Sex-Ed to Kindergartners
Kill Grandma
FEMA Concentation Camps
Obama Youth
etc.
etc.
etc.

there's your joke.
(no, no one reads your walls'o'text because you say the same thing over and over. You're the Jabber who cried Socialist, and when the enemy really comes for you, we'll not be listening then either)

QFT as further proof that PJABBER is the joke, and a sick one at that. :thumbsdown:
 

DesiPower

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and the problem is he takes all such attacks very personally, he cannot ignore them. I feel he is going to alienate the a major part of the main stream media pretty soon, he is going down hard...
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: sandorski
Lies are now True. Sweet.

"A popular method always used by the bourgeois press in every country with unerring effect is to lie, scream, raise a hullabaloo, and keep on reiterating lies on the off-chance that ?something may stick?.

...It is the capitalists and the capitalist press who are making a great noise, who are trying to shout down the truth, to prevent it from being heard, to drown it in a torrent of invective and shouts, to prevent an earnest elucidation of the facts.

...All we want is to make clear to the workers and to the poor peasants the errors of their tactics. We recognise the Soviets as the only possible authority. We advocate the need for authority and the duty of submitting to it.

Why, then, are you afraid? Why do you lie?

It is the truth that you fear. You lie in order to prevent this truth from emerging, prevent it by means of riot-mongering, slander, violence, and filth.

...They are dead people, the heroes of such methods."

V. I. Lenin
Written April 13, 1917
Published April 14, 1917 in Pravda No. 32

Big fan of Lenin are ya?
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Patranus
Death Panels - Gonna have them - How else do you ration care...i mean cut costs?

Sex Education to Kindergartners - might want to visit California

Kill Grandma - Cutting 500 billion from medicare - So you are telling me that you can cut 500 billion with out cutting care?

I tend not to respond to trolls but when you repeat blatant lies rather than just your whackadoo opinions, it's worth a quick link to show why you're called dittoheads.
http://factcheck.org/2009/10/going-out-of-business/#

As to the age appropriate sex-ed obama supported in illinois for K-12 (you know, don't talk to strangers, who to tell if an adult touches you inappropriately) what does California have to do with that?

And as to death panels, the claim stemmed from voluntary end of life counseling and living wills, something Palin supports, and has nothing to do with rationed care.

So you're Oh for Three on the bullshit meter today. Keep going though. Specious arguments are best posted in kylebisme's WTC7 conspiracy thread, you should head over there.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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At home? No, he still has ~50% approval.

On the world stage? He is a joke in some corners. I believe race has a major component.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: sandorski
Lies are now True. Sweet.

"A popular method always used by the bourgeois press in every country with unerring effect is to lie, scream, raise a hullabaloo, and keep on reiterating lies on the off-chance that ?something may stick?.

...It is the capitalists and the capitalist press who are making a great noise, who are trying to shout down the truth, to prevent it from being heard, to drown it in a torrent of invective and shouts, to prevent an earnest elucidation of the facts.

...All we want is to make clear to the workers and to the poor peasants the errors of their tactics. We recognise the Soviets as the only possible authority. We advocate the need for authority and the duty of submitting to it.

Why, then, are you afraid? Why do you lie?

It is the truth that you fear. You lie in order to prevent this truth from emerging, prevent it by means of riot-mongering, slander, violence, and filth.

...They are dead people, the heroes of such methods."

V. I. Lenin
Written April 13, 1917
Published April 14, 1917 in Pravda No. 32

Big fan of Lenin are ya?

Stalin did more for Russia than Kerensky, Lenin or Trotsky.

Obama is doing more for the U.S. than FDR, Johnson or Carter.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: OCguy
At home? No, he still has ~50% approval.

On the world stage? He is a joke in some corners. I believe race has a major component.

Abroad, he's about the most popular us president, like, ever. If he's a joke, then what was.....oh forget it.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: OCguy
At home? No, he still has ~50% approval.

On the world stage? He is a joke in some corners. I believe race has a major component.

Abroad, he's about the most popular us president, like, ever. If he's a joke, then what was.....oh forget it.

no doubt. Most people on the planet aren't white.
 
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Obama is a joke and so are all of our other presidents and presidential contenders in recent memory. Bush was a much bigger joke than Obama. If McCain had won or if Palin were elected, they too would be bigger jokes than Obama. Almost all of our Congressmen are jokes too.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: sandorski
Lies are now True. Sweet.

"A popular method always used by the bourgeois press in every country with unerring effect is to lie, scream, raise a hullabaloo, and keep on reiterating lies on the off-chance that ?something may stick?.

...It is the capitalists and the capitalist press who are making a great noise, who are trying to shout down the truth, to prevent it from being heard, to drown it in a torrent of invective and shouts, to prevent an earnest elucidation of the facts.

...All we want is to make clear to the workers and to the poor peasants the errors of their tactics. We recognise the Soviets as the only possible authority. We advocate the need for authority and the duty of submitting to it.

Why, then, are you afraid? Why do you lie?

It is the truth that you fear. You lie in order to prevent this truth from emerging, prevent it by means of riot-mongering, slander, violence, and filth.

...They are dead people, the heroes of such methods."

V. I. Lenin
Written April 13, 1917
Published April 14, 1917 in Pravda No. 32

Big fan of Lenin are ya?

I think he's a bigger fan of Hitler, his propoganda minister, Joseph Goebbels and the Big Lie. :shocked:

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

~ Joseph Goebbels
 

Rekonn

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Great article, I'm glad comedians are finally starting to take off the kid gloves.
 

IGBT

Lifer
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his "saved or created" BS is a laugh. drive past a pedestrian without running over him and you've saved a life. clear example how numbers don't lie but LIARS use numbers.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: sandorski
Lies are now True. Sweet.

"A popular method always used by the bourgeois press in every country with unerring effect is to lie, scream, raise a hullabaloo, and keep on reiterating lies on the off-chance that ?something may stick?.

Big fan of Lenin are ya?

I think he's a bigger fan of Hitler, his propoganda minister, Joseph Goebbels and the Big Lie. :shocked:

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
~ Joseph Goebbels

If World War Two had been an online RTS, the chat room traffic would have gone something like this.

*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
*Eisenhower has joined the game.*
*paTTon has joined the game.*
*Churchill has joined the game.*
*benny-tow has joined the game.*
*T0J0 has joined the game.*
*Roosevelt has joined the game.*
*Stalin has joined the game.*
*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
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Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
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paTTon: stfu
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deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
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Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
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Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
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*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*

If World War II Was an RTS
 
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