Indeed. If the we could withstand the last fucktard, we can withstand this one in our sleep.
Dari is your whole life full of half-truth and deceptions??
You admited at 12:26 am --
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Originally Posted by UberNeuman
Do you feel that way about "Right America feeling Wronged?"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6473944146040#
I don't know. I haven't seen it.
Then at 12:40 am same day you state when asked --
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Originally Posted by UberNeuman
Very well, can I take it that you've viewed the whole video that the OP posted?
yes. -- Dari it is impossible to watch a 2hr+ video in 4 minutes.....sad
Casting Obama as destroying America because he's evil isn't correct. He's a dedicated Marxist; he truly believes that America and capitalism are both evil and that Americans and the world will be better off under a centrally planned, government controlled, redistributive economy ruled by an all-powerful, self-selecting elite. We may see these things as evil, but he sees them as good. Likewise he believes that America needs the world to have more control over it, but not necessarily total control. Attributing the "Fall of the Republic" to Obama is simplistic, as both parties believe much (if not most) of what he believes and have been moving us closer to socialism. And frankly most of us like our socialism - our Social Security, our government schools - and only differ on how much socialism we should have. The problem with Obama is one of degree more than direction.
Do you feel that way about "Right America feeling Wronged?"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7294526473944146040#
Starting with Clinton the Dems don't release the kind of info that Republicans still do and that all candidates used to release. We're still waiting on Kerry's war records for example. For his birth certificate, I think that certificate of live birth is all we're going to get, which actually doesn't bother me. His parents were pretty much worthless, which can't be blamed on Obama himself. Once he became his party's nominee the question of his birth became moot, for me at least. I've read of his college funding before; a rich socialist funded his education. I can't remember the guy's name, but this is fairly common, where rich socialists use not-for-profits to fund promising young socialists' education. I have no problem with that, it's putting your money (as opposed to my money) where your ideological mouth is.How do we even know who Obama is? He says Transparency but he didn't release anything that candidates have.
Birth certificate
Medical records
Grades from College. Supposedly no one from his Columbia class remembers a 6'2" black guy. Did he get a fullbright scholarship? He had to pay for school somehow.
Casting Obama as destroying America because he's evil isn't correct. He's a dedicated Marxist; he truly believes that America and capitalism are both evil and that Americans and the world will be better off under a centrally planned, government controlled, redistributive economy ruled by an all-powerful, self-selecting elite. We may see these things as evil, but he sees them as good. Likewise he believes that America needs the world to have more control over it, but not necessarily total control. Attributing the "Fall of the Republic" to Obama is simplistic, as both parties believe much (if not most) of what he believes and have been moving us closer to socialism. And frankly most of us like our socialism - our Social Security, our government schools - and only differ on how much socialism we should have. The problem with Obama is one of degree more than direction.
This documentary, Fall of the Republic, was quite compelling to watch and take in. I try to think for myself, but the way things has happened in the past couple years makes it hard to deny some of the stuff in this video.
If you have thoughts on it, feel free to share. I am not a political guy by any means; I just want to make a good living and be happy.
Casting Obama as destroying America because he's evil isn't correct. He's a dedicated Marxist; he truly believes that America and capitalism are both evil and that Americans and the world will be better off under a centrally planned, government controlled, redistributive economy ruled by an all-powerful, self-selecting elite. We may see these things as evil, but he sees them as good. Likewise he believes that America needs the world to have more control over it, but not necessarily total control. Attributing the "Fall of the Republic" to Obama is simplistic, as both parties believe much (if not most) of what he believes and have been moving us closer to socialism. And frankly most of us like our socialism - our Social Security, our government schools - and only differ on how much socialism we should have. The problem with Obama is one of degree more than direction.
What the fuck is wrong with you? You act as if Barack Obama is your girlfriend. I'm not running any campaign. The video talks about Obama being a cheerleader for puppetmasters and his broken promises, among other things. Take your face out of Obama's asshole and catch a breath, will you?
You can do better than this kind bifurcated ideological thinking.
- wolf
Bifurcated? Are you using this to indicate forked logic or logic divided into two parts? That went over my head.
Just a few things in case you don't yet believe Obama is a Marxist:
His mentor in his teen and college years was Frank Marshall Davis, noted Communist radical. This is by Obama's admission. Davis was a leader in the Chicago Communist Party, for those who didn't know, and also active in the Hawaiian Communist Party.
In his first book he described carefully selecting his friends from radicals and socialist professors. (Not to mention the little quotable gem "White folks' greed runs a world in need.")
He spoke at Saul Mendelson's funeral. (See Democratic Socialism, the brand of Marxism most popular in the USA.)
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng58.html#anchor868634
One of Obama's first political forays was working with an ACORN off-shoot to elect Carol Mosely Braun, a woman with strong socialist & Communist ties, to the Senate. He later ran for and won her Senate seat with the same alliance, including Valerie Jarrett (daughter of another leader in the Chicago Communist Party, Vernon Jarrett.) Ms Jarrett is in fact still his Senior Adviser.
He was endorsed in his run for the state senate by the Chicago Democratic Socialists.
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html
The csars and advisers he has appointed (those who are not subject to confirmation hearings) are uniformly outspoken fans of Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, and the great philosopher Mao Tse Dung and in several cases self-described socialists or even communists (remember Van Jones?) Assuming Obama does not share this political philosophy requires believing that he is stupid enough to repeatedly hire people with opposing political viewpoints to carry out his will.
He consistently proposes big government programs for literally everything and openly promotes redistribution of wealth for "fairness".
He is completely in line with the Communist Party USA's agenda. They loved his State of the Union address, by the way. http://www.cpusa.org/
Bifurcated? Are you using this to indicate forked logic or logic divided into two parts? That went over my head.
Just a few things in case you don't yet believe Obama is a Marxist:
His mentor in his teen and college years was Frank Marshall Davis, noted Communist radical. This is by Obama's admission. Davis was a leader in the Chicago Communist Party, for those who didn't know, and also active in the Hawaiian Communist Party.
In his first book he described carefully selecting his friends from radicals and socialist professors. (Not to mention the little quotable gem "White folks' greed runs a world in need.")
He spoke at Saul Mendelson's funeral. (See Democratic Socialism, the brand of Marxism most popular in the USA.)
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng58.html#anchor868634
One of Obama's first political forays was working with an ACORN off-shoot to elect Carol Mosely Braun, a woman with strong socialist & Communist ties, to the Senate. He later ran for and won her Senate seat with the same alliance, including Valerie Jarrett (daughter of another leader in the Chicago Communist Party, Vernon Jarrett.) Ms Jarrett is in fact still his Senior Adviser.
He was endorsed in his run for the state senate by the Chicago Democratic Socialists.
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html
The csars and advisers he has appointed (those who are not subject to confirmation hearings) are uniformly outspoken fans of Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, and the great philosopher Mao Tse Dung and in several cases self-described socialists or even communists (remember Van Jones?) Assuming Obama does not share this political philosophy requires believing that he is stupid enough to repeatedly hire people with opposing political viewpoints to carry out his will.
He consistently proposes big government programs for literally everything and openly promotes redistribution of wealth for "fairness".
He is completely in line with the Communist Party USA's agenda. They loved his State of the Union address, by the way. http://www.cpusa.org/
The video is anything but a conspiracy theory.. it's showing factually and historically what is happening and has happened. The sources are all documented and can be verified. I love when people just deny everything though. Whatever makes you sleep better I guess. I'd rather be prepared and know what's coming.. because I'm watching it happen right in front of my face. The scary thing is, Alex Jones hits the nail on the head so many times, and actually calls out what's going to happen next with stunning accuracy.
However, cheesy videos like Zeitgeist and Loose Change use circular logic and factually/historically/scientifically inaccurate arguments. A good majority of it has been disproven.
And this is coming from myself, who used to think Alex Jones was a complete joke.
I have no problems watching objectionable content as long as it provides evidence of reasoning and facts. You can not really grasp the message of this video in 20-minutes of watching it (or if you just cut through parts of the video), because you will likely have missed all the evidence behind their reasoning (congressional footage, expert testimonies, and etc).
No one "has to" watch this video, but if you find it interesting then take what appeals to you from the video. I don't worship the video like it's the bible or anything to that level, but I think it reflects some truth to our lives. Like the bank bail-outs, our government handed over $700 billion dollars to banks for making bad/fraudulent financial decisions? Why does our government bail them out, and who will pay for it?
If watch the video and you want to share your thoughts feel free to do so, but if you didn't watch it and just want to flame off-topic then don't bother posting.
Having watched a number of these type of videos, all of which are pretty worthless, I skipped this one, but based on your post started to watch.
Two minutes in, it's got about five strikes. All the usually styliistic content of the crap consipracies:
Ominous drums, pictres of pillared federal buildings, and a montage of *very* clipped sound bites of anything they can find saying "new world order" and other code words or alarming things.
For example, amongst clips of 'world goverment', they play a quick clip of Al Gore saying the phrase 'world governance', clearly referring to government cooperation on global warming but implying more.
They have such 'credible' people as Pat Buchanan predicting the US will disappear to a world goverment.
Not off to a good start. I'll watch a little more and likely add more feedback.
BTW, I think there is a likelihood of more and more 'world government' of a sort, but the 'conspiracy videos' tend to misrepresent it so much, it's almost as if they're disinformation for people about the topic.
I don't see much at all in them about things like the ecomic size of the biggest corporations eclipsing most governments, and the political risks of these interests opposing democracy.