is OWS more violent than the TPM?

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wuliheron

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All i could find about complaints filed in Zuccotti Park was this one:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10...r-threatening-to-kill-woman-in-zuccotti-park/

Maybe you could provide a link to where the claim is that no complaints have been filed?
I have never advocated using violence against the protesters.

Ooops never mind, here's where the complaint was filed.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread763916/pg1

also here with a bit more info.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/cleanup-of-zuccotti-park-cancelled/

"Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, in a radio interview on Friday morning, sought to make it clear that the decision to postpone the cleanup was made by Brookfield Properties, the owner of Zuccotti Park.

He said the company made its decision after receiving a flurry of threatening phone calls from elected officials, though he said he did not know who those officials were or what they had specifically told Brookfield. It was also unclear how closely Brookfield and the Bloomberg administration had consulted before the decision on the clean-up operation was made. "

So they finally filed an official complaint. Good luck with that. When Occupy Oakland chased them off with tear gas and rubber bullets 3,000 more showed up the next day. Last I heard though they got portable toilets out there if that makes you feel better.
 

dwell

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So they finally filed an official complaint. Good luck with that. When Occupy Oakland chased them off with tear gas and rubber bullets 3,000 more showed up the next day. Last I heard though they got portable toilets out there if that makes you feel better.

Winter will chase the rest of them away.

I can't wait to see if any of these idiots try to blame the city if someone dies from hypothermia because they went all Darwin and refused to pack it in when the temperature went below zero.
 

cwjerome

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Who's talking revolution? I'm talking outright insurgency. You know, terrorists blowing up buildings and whatnot. This ain't China and you start mowing down people like weeds for trespassing and you'll find out just how pissed off and violent Americans can be.

BWAhahahahaha!

Looney called, they want their tunes back.
 

Darwin333

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Interesting, do you see anything in there indicating exactly where they are to be able to assemble peaceably? How about in your house, would that be OK? No, it wouldn't. There are laws that govern where you can assemble and if permits are needed. If you don't like them, fight the laws in court, but if people are somewhere where they are not legally allowed to be, they have no basis for whining when they get removed by force.

Kinda like black fold being "somewhere where they are not legally allowed to be" back in the day, eh?

I have consistently said that they do not have the right to interfere with other peoples property rights. However, public property is just that, public. They own it as much as you or I do and nothing I have ever read of the Constitution states that you must get permission to exercise your first amendment rights on public property.
 

Nebor

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Kinda like black fold being "somewhere where they are not legally allowed to be" back in the day, eh?

I have consistently said that they do not have the right to interfere with other peoples property rights. However, public property is just that, public. They own it as much as you or I do and nothing I have ever read of the Constitution states that you must get permission to exercise your first amendment rights on public property.

The area OWS is occupying is private property, a park owned by a corporation.
 

Nebor

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So they finally filed an official complaint. Good luck with that. When Occupy Oakland chased them off with tear gas and rubber bullets 3,000 more showed up the next day. Last I heard though they got portable toilets out there if that makes you feel better.

That's when you use the National Guard.
 

wuliheron

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That's when you use the National Guard.

What the hell is the national guard going to do with 3,000 people? They can chase them off and and cordon off the park, but they'll just pick another site.

Back when the world's fair was in New Orleans Reagan sent $100,00.oo to the city and told them to get the winos off the street. They erected a 40 foot cyclone fence on the front lawn of the police station, put up two watch towers with guards with machine guns, and broke out a bunch of moth eaten WWII tents and uniforms for the winos.

That's exactly the kind of publicity Occupy would love. Soccer moms and war veterans attacked by the national guard and put in internment camps.
 

Macamus Prime

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OWS eats babies.

TPM brings sunshine and flowers to any situation. Also, they are the RUL AH-MUR-ICANS.
 

zinfamous

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OWS is not a cohesive, completely organized singular group of people. As such , they probably have just as many righties as they do lefties claiming to be a part of it, but you also attract just about any form of social fabric.

The crazy anarchist types will show up whenever crowds get huge, and instigate just for the sake of instigating. It is almost always the case that you have anarchists and little street punks instigating violence and such at these protests just to do so, and really have no cause to be at these events.

I think Teabaggers have similar anarchist-type beliefs, but they are far too geriatric to act on such notions.
 

monovillage

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Yes, we all remember the horrible violence from the almost 3 years of Tea Party protests and rallies. All the punks and anarchists and the mangled, bleeding bodies of their victims. It's so horrible for some reason i can't remember the violence, maybe a few clips and pics to refresh my memory.
 

MrColin

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All you have to do is look at them and listen to what they are saying.
There is this segment of the current generation that had everything handed to them by their parents and they are now realizing that life is hard and it takes hard work to be successful. Instead of putting in that hard work they would rather camp out in a park and throw a temper tantrum like a bunch of 2-year-olds because that is what use to work when mommy took them to the toy store and said they could only have 1 toy but they wanted 2.

Sure, its got nothing to do with the kleptocracy, or the lack of corporate accountability. Its that they don't like work. BTW hard work is only a small peice of the puzzle. You need to fight the various oligopolies that make claims on the fruits of your labor.

Back to the OP, Teabaggers are far more violent. Police will often not bother with thier events because TP events are commercially sponsored publicity stunts with paid security. Also, they are smaller, much much smaller.
 

monovillage

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Sure, its got nothing to do with the kleptocracy, or the lack of corporate accountability. Its that they don't like work. BTW hard work is only a small peice of the puzzle. You need to fight the various oligopolies that make claims on the fruits of your labor.

Back to the OP, Teabaggers are far more violent. Police will often not bother with thier events because TP events are commercially sponsored publicity stunts with paid security. Also, they are smaller, much much smaller.

Then let's see some of that violence. Please. Really i'd like to see what those horrible tea party people did.
 

MagickMan

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BWAhahahahaha!

Looney called, they want their tunes back.

He's a complete idiot, not sure why anyone evens argues with him. You pick apart every one of his arguments and he forgets everything you said and starts all over again.

He's a bot that spouts cycles of shitty far-Left propaganda. :biggrin:
 

MagickMan

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These aren't soldiers disgruntled with their pay, and Hoover wasn't Obama.

Did you even read that article? You think OWS is special? You think this shit is something brand new and has never done before? WTF do you even know about US history, you partisan moron?

Yep, you have to be a bot, no human being could ever be so willfully full of stupid.
 

wuliheron

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Did you even read that article? You think OWS is special? You think this shit is something brand new and has never done before? WTF do you even know about US history, you partisan moron?

Yep, you have to be a bot, no human being could ever be so willfully full of stupid.

Does your mama know you stay up this late talking trash online? Has she forget to make sure you're still taking your antipsychotic drugs?
 

zinfamous

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Then let's see some of that violence. Please. Really i'd like to see what those horrible tea party people did.

well, whenever teabaggers get charged with racism and violence due to certain actions at their rallies, the defense is always, "these were isolated instigators!"

whenever that happens with OWS, the nutbangers and teabaggers never consider that same defense. wonder why?

are they concerned that this movement not only dwarfs theirs within this country, but it also an international movement?

:hmm:
 

MagickMan

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Does your mama know you stay up this late talking trash online? Has she forget to make sure you're still taking your antipsychotic drugs?

Jesus dude, my parents have been dead for a while. I'm not sure why you're obsessed with them in the first place, as they have no bearing on the fact that you're nothing but a partisan imbecile. :hmm:
 

MagickMan

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well, whenever teabaggers get charged with racism and violence due to certain actions at their rallies, the defense is always, "these were isolated instigators!"

whenever that happens with OWS, the nutbangers and teabaggers never consider that same defense. wonder why?

are they concerned that this movement not only dwarfs theirs within this country, but it also an international movement?

:hmm:

Well, there is something to be said about the frequency of the problems, with OWS it seems to be an almost hourly thing.
 

zinfamous

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Well, there is something to be said about the frequency of the problems, with OWS it seems to be an almost hourly thing.

when you've got roughly 20x the concentration of people, and far more than half of them are just idiots with nothing better to do than "show up at something,"

such is expected. the latest BS that happened in Oakland--all of it occurred after the scheduled march. some dipshit local hoods showed up and decided to start trashing shit after the OWS were clearing out.

see what you want, but it will rarely be the truth when looking in from the outside, and especially if expecting--and wanting--the worst.
 

wuliheron

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Jesus dude, my parents have been dead for a while. I'm not sure why you're obsessed with them in the first place, as they have no bearing on the fact that you're nothing but a partisan imbecile. :hmm:

And you are obviously such a mature and well informed objective person.
 
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