is OWS more violent than the TPM?

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Ninjahedge

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No. Absolutely NO. I want nothing to do with these people, their goals or their agenda. May great fuck be upon them and all those who support them.

then you are truly ignorant.

You're acting like other liberals, you are seeing the protest for what you believe them to be, and not what they actually are. Complete disconnect with reality.

Um, you just branded me and glossed over everything. You are a true ignorant idiot.
 

Ninjahedge

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Not true. Bush gained a lot of cred from the NRA gun nut types during his campaign and presidency for allowing concealed handgun permit holders to carry their weapons near him.

it is easy to do so when you run a security check on every person that goes to your rallys.

He even had people removed simply because they were wearing T-shirts that did not agree with his policies.

Many people attribute his Texas gubernatorial win to his promise that the first thing he would do in office was sign a concealed handgun bill (that his opponent had vetoed repeatedly.)

Possibly, but not OT.
 

Ninjahedge

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"You're acting like other liberals, you are seeing the protest for what you believe them to be, and not what they actually are. Complete disconnect with reality."

No, spidey is being accurate, ninja is way out in lala and tinfoil land.

Nope. BTW, it is aluminum foil these days.

Get your slander right.
 

spidey07

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then you are truly ignorant.



Um, you just branded me and glossed over everything. You are a true ignorant idiot.

LOL. I've read everything you post in these threads. You completely gloss over or outright ignore the overwhelming communist/socialist demands from the protesters or claim them to be "just a small fringe". Read the fucking signs. This is what I'm talking about, how you and many other liberals see this as some great protest against "the man" and his evil corrupt ways and you're just championing for the "little guy getting screwed over". You completely ignore this very same tactic is used to cause a proletariat uprising against the bourgeois (um, HELLO! The 1%? It can't be more clear than that), you are completely ignoring history.

And you're calling me ignorant. You're being willfully ignorant.

Read. The. Fucking. Signs. You are viewing the protest with such tinted glasses it's hilarious. And you want me to agree with their message? Fuck that and fuck them.
 

umbrella39

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then you are truly ignorant.



Um, you just branded me and glossed over everything. You are a true ignorant idiot.

Put the fucktard on ignore, he paints everyone who doesn't have a stockpile of canned good and ammo with same brush. He has already lost the war.
 

soundforbjt

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Read. The. Fucking. Signs. You are viewing the protest with such tinted glasses it's hilarious. And you want me to agree with their message? Fuck that and fuck them.

I've read the signs at TP rallys. Taxed enough already...LOL The tax rates are the lowest in the last 50-60 years. Their premise is flawed from the start.
 

shadow9d9

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LOL. I've read everything you post in these threads. You completely gloss over or outright ignore the overwhelming communist/socialist demands from the protesters or claim them to be "just a small fringe". Read the fucking signs. This is what I'm talking about, how you and many other liberals see this as some great protest against "the man" and his evil corrupt ways and you're just championing for the "little guy getting screwed over". You completely ignore this very same tactic is used to cause a proletariat uprising against the bourgeois (um, HELLO! The 1%? It can't be more clear than that), you are completely ignoring history.

And you're calling me ignorant. You're being willfully ignorant.

Read. The. Fucking. Signs. You are viewing the protest with such tinted glasses it's hilarious. And you want me to agree with their message? Fuck that and fuck them.

Communism has never and will never be implemented. A dictatorship like the soviet union with the name of communism? Sure. Socialism is simply an economic system. It is not inherently evil. Trying to link it with a brutal dictatorship has always been pathetic. The US was founded in part on the idea of socialism. Booga booga!

Sometimes the rich, corrupt, and powerful need to be reigned in.. or do you suggest the rich are always right? The income gap has been growing for good reasons.. with your response, you rather wait until we are essentially a slave state where the rich have complete control before the masses rise up.. that makes sense.
 

palehorse

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Communism has never and will never be implemented. A dictatorship like the soviet union with the name of communism? Sure. Socialism is simply an economic system. It is not inherently evil. Trying to link it with a brutal dictatorship has always been pathetic. The US was founded in part on the idea of socialism. Booga booga!

Sometimes the rich, corrupt, and powerful need to be reigned in.. or do you suggest the rich are always right? The income gap has been growing for good reasons.. with your response, you rather wait until we are essentially a slave state where the rich have complete control before the masses rise up.. that makes sense.
We already have aspects of socialism in our system -- a lot of them, in fact.

I, for one, believe we have reached, or exceeded, our Socialist threshold.

No more please.

Thank you.
 

shadow9d9

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We already have aspects of socialism in our system -- a lot of them, in fact.

I, for one, believe we have reached, or exceeded, our Socialist threshold.

No more please.

Thank you.

Absolutely.. the military, roads, police, fire department, libraries, public education, sanitation, and post office have destroyed our great country!
 

palehorse

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Absolutely.. the military, roads, police, fire department, libraries, public education, sanitation, and post office have destroyed our great country!
I didn't say or imply any of the above. What I said is that we have reached, or exceeded, the acceptable socialist threshold.

Please learn to live with what we already have; or, better yet, learn to live with less.

No new programs, no new entitlements, no new tax breaks, no new hand-outs, no new government agencies, etc... no more. None. Nada.
 
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Icepick

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i didn't follow the tea party movement as much and I just started tuning into some OWS news and am reading about violence, rapes, vandalism, etc.

is this because there are more numbers participating in OWS? is it an angrier crowd?
is the TP full of older folks incapable of violence?

what's the difference?

The Tea Baggers are too lazy to make a long-term committed effort of the same scale as the nation-wide (and Canada) OWS movement. Add to that the fact that Tea Baggers are mostly older people who are well-off and comfortable with their government-run medicare programs. They'll show up at a rally to hold up a sign and spew out insults then retire to their comfortable homes for a nice steak dinner.

The OWS participants are showing true American grit by digging in their heals, braving the elements and by hanging in there for months at a time.
 

Craig234

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Unfortunately, the pro-violence factions in Oakland are reported to be becoming a larger share of the protesters.

They are mainly some factions of self-described 'anarchists' and 'anarcho-conservatives', but are sometimes outvoting the non-violent protesters.

As a result the mayor has asked for the camp to disband and it appears a police raid is forming.
 

spidey07

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Unfortunately, the pro-violence factions in Oakland are reported to be becoming a larger share of the protesters.

They are mainly some factions of self-described 'anarchists' and 'anarcho-conservatives', but are sometimes outvoting the non-violent protesters.

As a result the mayor has asked for the camp to disband and it appears a police raid is forming.

I'm waiting for them to kick out the portland protesters. Should make for some good TV. The hammer of LAW will come down at 0 hundred early sunday PST.

Remember OWS supporters, careful who you lie with because your bed is shit and attracting more shit.
 

palehorse

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Unfortunately, the pro-violence factions in Oakland are reported to be becoming a larger share of the protesters.

They are mainly some factions of self-described 'anarchists' and 'anarcho-conservatives', but are sometimes outvoting the non-violent protesters.

As a result the mayor has asked for the camp to disband and it appears a police raid is forming.
The man who created OWS is an anarchist, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone... are you surprised Craig?

It's only a matter of time before the anarchists spread to every corner of the Occupy movement. How much uglier will it get before this debacle is finally over? What will the "mainstream" members of OWS do to prevent it from coming to a head?

Tick tock tick tock...
 
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spidey07

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The man who created OWS is an anarchist, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone... are you surprised Craig?

It's only a matter of time before the anarchists spread to every corner of the Occupy movement. How much uglier will it get before this debacle is finally over? What will the "mainstream" members of OWS do to prevent it from coming to a head?

Tick tock tick tock...

Really now? Do tell. The tactics and demands do seem the same and the similarities to greece and london are striking.
 

EXman

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The mainstream media wishes to portray OWS in as bad a light as possible because mainstream media is essentially corporate owned and OWS is more or less anti-corporate. The TP on the other hand is a manufactured "movement" in much the same way that Justin Bieber is a manufactured pop star.

lol I hope this is sarcasm...

I doubt it though.
 

EXman

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The Tea Baggers are too lazy to make a long-term committed effort of the same scale as the nation-wide (and Canada) OWS movement. Add to that the fact that Tea Baggers are mostly older people who are well-off and comfortable with their government-run medicare programs. They'll show up at a rally to hold up a sign and spew out insults then retire to their comfortable homes for a nice steak dinner.

The OWS participants are showing true American grit by digging in their heals, braving the elements and by hanging in there for months at a time.

Bahahahah

They have jobs and produce and carry this freaking country. They have to go back to work pea brain. Wtf are these people doing? Stealing, assualting, raping, and killing each other. Rather like animals. Then taking a shiz on a police car and throwing feces and blood on hot dog vendors because they will not give them free food anymore. That has nothing to do with an age group it shows the TEA partiers are mature and not some freeloading wanna be hippies (and some old hippies who think this is the best thing since the 60's from the pictures I have seen.)

Get a clue bub. Most of these people are leeches on our society or some guilty girls driving from the nicer parts of town in their lexus toting all the newest apple electronics.
 
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