Is pastrami bad for you?

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Lifer
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Nitrates don't cause cancer. At worst they might ever so slightly increase your risk of cancer but not by such a significant amount that you should avoid a pastrami sandwich like the plague. If you really love pastrami sandwiches then go ahead and enjoy one once in a while because you're going to die of something someday anyway and you should at least try to enjoy life while you're still around and try not to be neurotic over every little tiny risk factor in the foods you enjoy. Quality vs. quantity of life.
 

OverVolt

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Nitrates don't cause cancer. At worst they might ever so slightly increase your risk of cancer but not by such a significant amount that you should avoid a pastrami sandwich like the plague. If you really love pastrami sandwiches then go ahead and enjoy one once in a while because you're going to die of something someday anyway and you should at least try to enjoy life while you're still around and try not to be neurotic over every little tiny risk factor in the foods you enjoy. Quality vs. quantity of life.

Nitrosamines are one of the most potent carcinogens and meat cured with nitrates most definitely forms nitrosamines. You can play around with nitrates in the absence of protein and get results that say it causes no harm but this doesn't reflect the real world.

Cooking and high ph (hellooo stomach acid) both form nitrosamines when protein + nitrate are present.

Antioxidants will prevent the formation of nitrosamines which is why hotdogs have vitamin C added by law. Hot dogs used to be a much greater health risk than they are today circa 1970's or so. This doesn't apply to lunchmeat so your mileage will vary. Always buy lunchmeat with vitamin C added.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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cole slaw & pickles count as veggies right?


From a heart health perspective, the bread is the worst thing on that sandwich, followed by any sugar used in the slaw, curing, or pickle. The sodium is a second runner-up. The meat/fat is no problem. The cholesterol you eat is not the cholesterol that ends up in your blood stream. Your body breaks down the cholesterol you eat and makes its own cholesterol out of sugars, sugars derived from dietary sugars and excessive carbs. There, Atkins' 560 page book reduced to a single paragraph.
 

Howard

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From a heart health perspective, the bread is the worst thing on that sandwich, followed by any sugar used in the slaw, curing, or pickle. The sodium is a second runner-up. The meat/fat is no problem. The cholesterol you eat is not the cholesterol that ends up in your blood stream. Your body breaks down the cholesterol you eat and makes its own cholesterol out of sugars, sugars derived from dietary sugars and excessive carbs. There, Atkins' 560 page book reduced to a single paragraph.
What about the nitrites?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Kraut or nothing!

What is the coleslaw blasphemy?

A big fuck you to NY traditionalists!


No seriously as long as you can get over the whole pastrami only belongs with mustard thing, it's awesome.
 

dullard

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May 21, 2001
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What about the nitrites?
The nitrate scare is way overblown.

1) Meat barely has nitrates, even processed cured meat. A cured meat may have maybe 150 mg/kg of nitrates (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1717664/pdf/v079p00198a.pdf)
while vegetables such as lettuce, spinach, or beets may have 2500 mg/kg of nitrates (http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/9/1652.long)

2) It isn't necessarilly the nitrates that are bad. "We observed no association between intake of nitrate and nitrite from plant sources and [renal cell carcinoma]" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3553522/).

3) It seems like it is more of a link between red meat being bad vs. processed meat being bad (nitrates). "We observed a suggestive positive association with measured values of nitrate from processed meat, but this association failed to reach statistical significance... There was no clear association with measured values nitrite from processed meat and bladder cancer... However, we observed a borderline statistically significant association for combined nitrate and nitrite from processed meat among those in the top quintile...We observed a borderline statistically significant increased risk of bladder cancer for those in the highest versus the lowest quintile of red meat" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20681011)

4) Even if you are eating nitrates, red meat, and not enough vitimin C the link to health problems ranges between nothing and barely measurable. "Overall, nitrate intake was not associated with colorectal cancer risk" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24242755) "Nitrate intake was not associated with thyroid cancer risk" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22674227). "The authors found no associations between adult or adolescent nitrate or nitrite intake from processed meats and pancreatic cancer among women. These results provide modest evidence that processed meat sources of dietary nitrate and nitrite may be associated with pancreatic cancer among men and provide no support for the hypothesis in women." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21685410).

Bascially, lots of red meat, burnt to a crisp, without enough vitamin C may have a slight increase in cancers, but even then it is nothing compared to the increase caused by other factors (such as smoking for example). I've never seen pastrami burnt to a crisp.

Eat it and enjoy it. Then have a balanced diet too.
 
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Vdubchaos

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Pastrami = Corned Beef + pepper

Corn beef is not bad for you, depends on the quality of course.

Nothing is good when taken to the extreme.....
 

moonbogg

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I will purchase a pastrami sandwich for lunch today and report back with vivid pics. This will be quite badass and be of good nature.
 
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