Is psychiatry a false discipline?

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OinkBoink

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Initially, I had a bit of an anti-psychiatry bias too because my parents were very anti-psychiatry. And this is despite one of them being a surgeon. But later I educated myself on the subject and my views changed. There may be some aspects of psychiatry which need to be refined and made better (in which field do they not seek improvement?). But no, psychiatry as a whole is not a pseudoscience.
 
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I'm just gonna leave this here:

http://www.ted.com/talks/david_anderson_your_brain_is_more_than_a_bag_of_chemicals.html

David Anderson: Your brain is more than a bag of chemicals

Modern psychiatric drugs treat the chemistry of the whole brain, but neurobiologist David Anderson believes in a more nuanced view of how the brain functions. He illuminates new research that could lead to targeted psychiatric medications -- that work better and avoid side effects. How's he doing it? For a start, by making a bunch of fruit flies angry. (Filmed at TEDxCaltech.)
Through his lab at the California Institute of Technology, David Anderson seeks to find the neural underpinnings of emotions like fear, anxiety and anger.
 

mammador

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So you're denying the relevance of established medical practice, but you seem to think I can't do the same thing? If my opinion means little, then so does yours.

I merely mean to define mental illness in such a way as to demonstrate that it is a real thing, but not necessarily tied to social norms. It doesn't matter how psychiatrists define it. They are going to make certain a large number of things fall under their "mental illness" umbrella for obvious reasons. That doesn't mean that mental illness doesn't exist or can't be defined.

ha. So you accept that psychiatry is arbitrary.
 

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lol.. the same "psychiatrists" who arbitrarily voted homosexuality out of the DSM years ago. And who deem people with "non-traditionalist" as ill? lol.. all psychiatrists are a bunch of jokers, involved in a false science.

I'll have ten times more respect for a real medical discipline, like cardiology or neurology, over these fuckstains called "mental health professionals".

Wow, if you actually made a relevant point, I could address it. Just not seeing anything in your incoherent ramblings, unfortunately. And now to save my own mental health, I am exiting this thread. Goodbye.
 

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Loosely speaking, a disease is something which causes a person unwarranted distress and reduces their quality of life. It is a known fact that some people have hallucinations, aberrations in thought processes, unpleasant emotional states etc. Psychiatry seeks to make these problems better through a variety of therapies, both pharmacological and psychological.

I think I once heard Eric Kandel say that the general difference between neurology and psychiatry is that neurology generally deals with cases where the brain regions that are dysfunctional are known or the mechanism of dysfunction in the brain is known whereas in psychiatry the underlying problem is a lot more complex in terms of the brain and is more difficult to pin-point with precision. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

blackangst1

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To answer your OP: no.

I know, I know, you want a reason for my answer. Other than referencing the DSM, why would I provide anything more than your side of the argument?

fuckstains called "mental health professionals"

OK I'll bite. Idiots who believe psychiatry and the science behind it is formulated by...ahem...fuckstains..is not capable of understanding an intelligent response.
 

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lol.. the same "psychiatrists" who arbitrarily voted homosexuality out of the DSM years ago. And who deem people with "non-traditionalist" as ill? lol.. all psychiatrists are a bunch of jokers, involved in a false science.

I'll have ten times more respect for a real medical discipline, like cardiology or neurology, over these fuckstains called "mental health professionals".

There are psychiatrists who hate the DSM as much as I do. Avoid the sweeping generalizations.
 

mammador

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I don't really care. All psychiatrists participate in a false and corrupt practice.
 

mammador

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Loosely speaking, a disease is something which causes a person unwarranted distress and reduces their quality of life. It is a known fact that some people have hallucinations, aberrations in thought processes, unpleasant emotional states etc. Psychiatry seeks to make these problems better through a variety of therapies, both pharmacological and psychological.

lol.. So people who take drugs and see hallucinations are ill?
I think I once heard Eric Kandel say that the general difference between neurology and psychiatry is that neurology generally deals with cases where the brain regions that are dysfunctional are known or the mechanism of dysfunction in the brain is known whereas in psychiatry the underlying problem is a lot more complex in terms of the brain and is more difficult to pin-point with precision. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I dismiss the basis of psychiatry. So what if people are not "normal"? Sorry, but this is 2013, not 1813. we NOW know that normalcy is subjective, based on more advanced knowledge and inquiry. Most psychiatrists don't seem to endorse this. Well reality is no obstacle.
 

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I dismiss the basis of psychiatry. So what if people are not "normal"? Sorry, but this is 2013, not 1813. we NOW know that normalcy is subjective, based on more advanced knowledge and inquiry. Most psychiatrists don't seem to endorse this. Well reality is no obstacle.

It's not about people being "normal". It's about people facing mental health issues that they themselves find impairing and want to fix.
 

mammador

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Incorrect. There are people who have never done drugs who still experience hallucinations. Have you never heard of schizophrenia ?

If people wish to see hallucinations, who is to prevent them? You? All psychiatrists? So psychiatrists are the lords of society?
 

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It's not about people being "normal". It's about people facing mental health issues that they themselves find impairing and want to fix.

Normalcy is subjective. That's not taxing to comprehend.

Psychiatry is false if it cannot comprehend that.
 

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If people wish to see hallucinations, who is to prevent them? You? All psychiatrists? So psychiatrists are the lords of society?

If people wish to see hallucinations, it is entirely up to them unless they are harming people around them. Nobody is going to coerce you into seeing a psychiatrist if you wish to live with your impairment.
 

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Normalcy is subjective. That's not taxing to comprehend.

Psychiatry is false if it cannot comprehend that.

How taxing is it to comprehend that it is NOT about "normalcy" and fitting in ?

It is about people facing mental health problems that diminish their quality of life.
 

mammador

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If people wish to see hallucinations, it is entirely up to them unless they are harming people around them. Nobody is going to coerce you into seeing a psychiatrist if you wish to live with your impairment.

lol.. you seriously believe that mental health professionals endorse that? Psychiatry is a tool designed to control, admit it.
 

Jodell88

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Can the OP post peer-reviewed journals, articles, etc. to state his claim?
 

mammador

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How taxing is it to comprehend that it is NOT about "normalcy" and fitting in ?

It is about people facing mental health problems that diminish their quality of life.

lol.. I already mentioned that I don't believe that.
 
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