Is psychiatry a false discipline?

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HAL9000

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Further such exceptions.

When there are more exceptions than people who adhere to the rule, the rule doesn't exist.

Psychiatrists help people, a lot, as most doctors do, if they didn't, they wouldn't exist. Your problem is that you don't believe in mental illness for some moronic reason.
 

mammador

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I don't believe in it since I dismiss the premise. Normalcy is subjective, so penalising "abnormal" behaviour is silly.
 

HAL9000

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I don't believe in it since I dismiss the premise. Normalcy is subjective, so penalising "abnormal" behaviour is silly.

It's nothing to do with normal or being abnormal.

It's like saying "I reject cancer, as I don't believe in normality, so a tumorous lung is just as normal as a non-tumorous lung"

It's nothing to do with normal or abnormal. It's about ill or healthy.
 

mammador

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lol...

Determining physiological abnormalities is easy. Psychiatry is based on the ideal of normal behaviour.
 

HAL9000

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lol...

Determining physiological abnormalities is easy. Psychiatry is based on the ideal of normal behaviour.

Determining psychological abnormalities is easy is it? Okay Doctor...

My neurological make up is different to yours when I'm suffering with a depressive or manic episode. It's not easy to determine that I'm bipolar without analysis of my behaviour, moods and thoughts.

I'm ill. It's nothing to do with normal, there's no such thing as normal.
 

mammador

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I said physiological, not psychological. If somebody has a rash, a cold, a heart attack or cancer these are easy to detect.

Mental illness is entirely based on what is "not normal" in behaviour.
 

HAL9000

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I said physiological, not psychological. If somebody has a rash, a cold, a heart attack or cancer these are easy to detect.

Typo. Neurology is physiological.

Mental illness is entirely based on what is "not normal" in behaviour.

See above.

My inability to control my moods is not normal, in the same way that a diabetics high blood sugar is not normal.
 

Spungo

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My inability to control my moods is not normal, in the same way that a diabetics high blood sugar is not normal.
That only proves his point - diabetes is caused by lack of faith. I use my bible as a dinner plate and I've never had blood sugar problems. Coincidence?

The whole field of psychiatry is nonsense because it consistently agrees with dumb liberals. There is one example where flies become bisexual after drinking alcohol. The liberal "doctor" interpretation is that behavior is strongly influenced by chemicals in the brain so things like bisexuality or an appreciation of electronic music can be turned on and off just like a light switch. I'm a Christian so I know this is wrong. My brain has no switches. I have the same intense sexual desires as everyone else when I shower at the gym but my faith tells me not to act on those desires. Those flies just have no will power and that's what makes studies involving flies or animals meaningless.

Another silly example of psychiatry is when doctors compare brain scans of men and women that are straight and gay. This is dumb because gay is not a physical thing. Everybody has constant gay thoughts. I have a lot of sexual dreams about the new girl at my work and that cute girl who works at the coffee shop downstairs but that doesn't make me less faithful to my husband and God. The self proclaimed "gay" people are just choosing to act on thoughts we all have. How is something like that supposed to show up in a brain scan? This is ridiculous.
 

mammador

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I think the issue of mood is a lie.

Psychiatrists wish to penalise "abnormal" behaviour conduct.
 

Jodell88

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That only proves his point - diabetes is caused by lack of faith. I use my bible as a dinner plate and I've never had blood sugar problems. Coincidence?

The whole field of psychiatry is nonsense because it consistently agrees with dumb liberals. There is one example where flies become bisexual after drinking alcohol. The liberal "doctor" interpretation is that behavior is strongly influenced by chemicals in the brain so things like bisexuality or an appreciation of electronic music can be turned on and off just like a light switch. I'm a Christian so I know this is wrong. My brain has no switches. I have the same intense sexual desires as everyone else when I shower at the gym but my faith tells me not to act on those desires. Those flies just have no will power and that's what makes studies involving flies or animals meaningless.

Another silly example of psychiatry is when doctors compare brain scans of men and women that are straight and gay. This is dumb because gay is not a physical thing. Everybody has constant gay thoughts. I have a lot of sexual dreams about the new girl at my work and that cute girl who works at the coffee shop downstairs but that doesn't make me less faithful to my husband and God. The self proclaimed "gay" people are just choosing to act on thoughts we all have. How is something like that supposed to show up in a brain scan? This is ridiculous.
*taps sarcasm meter and troll detector.
 

Spungo

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I think the issue of mood is a lie.

Psychiatrists wish to penalise "abnormal" behaviour conduct.
Exactly. It's part of the liberal agenda to make everybody the same. All wear the same clothing, do the same hand salute, memorize chants, and follow the leader who is often named The Leader. We are all God's children with our own unique traits. Some people are good with money. Others can see aliens, shadow people and government conspiracies. We should stop calling these people sick and start embracing their unique abilities. Why are we trying to silence people who have incredible powers such as talking to the dead or raising the dead? Ed Gein had these powers but so called "doctors" said he was mentally ill. Why would they assume this when we know so many other people have risen from the dead before? Jesus? Lazarus? Hello? Read your bibles ffs.

This is part of the liberal war on religion. They stick to their dogma and insist that it's impossible to raise the dead because doing so discredits the story of Jesus. This whole country is going to hell and psychiatrists are the ones driving the bus.
 

OverVolt

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I think some aspects of psych are false. Meanwhile others are true.

Scizophrenia is a real disease, ADD not as much.
 

Dr. Zaus

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I think some aspects of psych are false. Meanwhile others are true.

Scizophrenia is a real disease, ADD not as much.

There are bio-physical reasons for SOME instances of ADHD. I could give you a chart of the brain where some ADHD folks have a faulty/under-developed attention-switching portion (which can be seen in an fMRI).

More importantly; cognitive diferences are called 'diseased' because they are too far from 'normal': which itself has an ever changing definition.
 

_Rick_

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Normalcy is subjective.

Normalcy can be defined using statistics. You look at a (sufficiently large) population, and you will most likely see a bell curve of whichever feature you are looking. You can then define normalcy by selecting x-times sigma as your cut off. And of course outliers are clearly not normal.

I wonder how you believe anyone can not suspect you of being a pitiable troll, the way you do not consider the simplest of counter arguments to your mindless diatribe.
 

randomrogue

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This is the first forum I've ever visited that has such a large population of people with mental problems.

Mammador you should let your doctor read your posts on this site. He might be able to help you with either an adjustment in your medication or a lobotomy.
 

Quantos

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I think the issue of mood is a lie.

Psychiatrists wish to penalise "abnormal" behaviour conduct.

Judging from your recent posts, you seem to believe that what is considered normal is a set of rules written in a book somewhere, and that if you stray an inch over a set of very specific rules you're considered abnormal. I think your mistake is that you can't deal in absolute when it comes to the human brain, at least not with our current knowledge of it. Normal and abnormal behaviour are very grey areas. In a lot of cases, it's hard to say what is normal and what isn't.

Also, whether someone needs or wants to see a psychiatrist is not necessarily related to whether they consider themselves/are considered normal. A lot of people will want to consult in order to better themselves for various reasons, many of which will not really affect their "normality".
 

HAL9000

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I think the issue of mood is a lie.

Psychiatrists wish to penalise "abnormal" behaviour conduct.

It isn't a fucking lie you idiot. I'm ill bipolar disorder is a disability how dare you insinuate that I'm making it up.
 
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